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Nov 30, 2011
pancreotectomy 3 posts

Topic: Questions for HCPs / High blood readings

Hi Pancreotectomy here bg now ok dinner time yesterday back down to 7.7 & today my waking bg was just 6. As my Dad used to say "Awkward being born & awkward ever since" just proving him right.
 
Nov 30, 2011
SimonC 78 posts

Topic: Carbohydrate Counting / White Bread or Brown?

I love the brown bread - not because of the higher fibre, lower GI etc, but because I love the taste. I prefer granary, but will happily eat brown. I have on occasions had the Bergan bread because I was trying to eat an over all lower GI diet - ie I had to endure brown rice as well. It did work but so boring. I'm afraid I find white bread tasteless and so I choose brown - which is what DAFNE allows us all to do - eat what we choose.

It is an interesting debate, and I bet it is a bit like marmite, with camps firmly opposed. Laughing
 
Nov 30, 2011
novorapidboi26 1,816 posts

Topic: Questions for HCPs / Can anyone hive advice please

sjohno said:
Very Happy novorapidboi26 obssessed with BI Very Happy



If I could bathe in Levemir I would............... Rolling Eyes
 
Nov 30, 2011
novorapidboi26 1,816 posts

Topic: Carbohydrate Counting / White Bread or Brown?

Me too.........
 
Nov 30, 2011
mum2westiesGill 502 posts

Topic: Carbohydrate Counting / White Bread or Brown?

novorapidboi26 said:
More commonly type 2s will need to choose there food strategically, so basically, choose foods that have as little an impact on blood sugars as possible, low GI.

Type 1 diabetics taking this approach is also good, but purely a personal choice. If you can eat white bread and get your insulin dose/timing right to manage it without spiking, then theoretically you can eat it without feeling like a criminal......

The burgen bread is lower carb and lower GI, so it needs less insulin and it also gets absorbed much slower, helped by all the seeds etc too.........



Thanks novorapidboi26, i think i'm going to stick with my white bread Very Happy
 
Nov 30, 2011
novorapidboi26 1,816 posts

Topic: Carbohydrate Counting / White Bread or Brown?

More commonly type 2s will need to choose there food strategically, so basically, choose foods that have as little an impact on blood sugars as possible, low GI.

Type 1 diabetics taking this approach is also good, but purely a personal choice. If you can eat white bread and get your insulin dose/timing right to manage it without spiking, then theoretically you can eat it without feeling like a criminal......

The burgen bread is lower carb and lower GI, so it needs less insulin and it also gets absorbed much slower, helped by all the seeds etc too.........
 
Nov 30, 2011
mum2westiesGill 502 posts

Topic: Carbohydrate Counting / White Bread or Brown?

novorapidboi26 said:
As you probably guessed from my other response, I will eat any kind of bread, unlike a lot of folk, both type 1 and 2 who choose there bread carefully, I dont know if I SHOULD be doing this, but I dont............. Wink



I so much prefer white bread but an awful lot of diabetics i believe have brown (ie bergen) so i don't know whether i'm doing right or wrong having white.

Gill
 
Nov 30, 2011
novorapidboi26 1,816 posts

Topic: Questions for HCPs / Can anyone hive advice please

Hey there,

the first thing I always look at is BI, and at risk of sounding like a broken record [all my other posts], I would put to you that your BI is not correct ,and therefore trying to work out your QA needs will be difficult at best..........

Example:

Sunday 20/11/2011

6.49 - 7.49: No carbs or QA insulin on board, your blood glucose went up, suggesting your evening BI of 22 is insufficient,however could also be signs of the dawn phenomenon, to confirm DP you should do a 3 am test.

12.43 - 15.00: No carbs but 2 units of correction, your BG still went up, suggesting your BI in the morning is also insufficient. you could confirm this by having a carb free dinner also.

Later on the week you moved your BI up, which is good, but you may need to go further................I personally move my BI dose up 2 units a time, unless there is only a small increase in BG.

So just be patient, and keep increasing your BI dose till it hold you steady, both overnight and during the day.....................my doses are 32 in the morning [6.50] and 38 in the evening [22.00], the later evening dose is because it help with the DP.
 
Nov 30, 2011
novorapidboi26 1,816 posts

Topic: Carbohydrate Counting / White Bread or Brown?

As you probably guessed from my other response, I will eat any kind of bread, unlike a lot of folk, both type 1 and 2 who choose there bread carefully, I dont know if I SHOULD be doing this, but I dont............. Wink
 
Nov 30, 2011
novorapidboi26 1,816 posts

Topic: General Discussion / annoyed and fed up

All good advice so far.....................

And correct too, I left my DAFNE course far from on top of things, it takes a while to get your background requirements sussed accurately, and only then can the carbs/insulin ratios be established, stick with it.............

And enjoy your time out, dont worry too much about the carb count, as it will be a guess anyway.............just keep testing.............. Laughing
 
Nov 30, 2011
mum2westiesGill 502 posts

Topic: Carbohydrate Counting / White Bread or Brown?

Hi,

Who has white bread & who has brown bread?

Gill
 
Nov 29, 2011
wrijoanne 5 posts

Topic: Questions for HCPs / Can anyone hive advice please



I have been on Dafne after 20 years type 1 for approximate 1 month can anyone advise me on my readings please thankyou
 
Nov 29, 2011
mum2westiesGill 502 posts

Topic: General Discussion / annoyed and fed up

tcmonkey80 said:
Plus its my birthday tomorrow and I'm worried about going out for dinner and not counting carve right. Sad



Happy Birthday for tomorrow Very Happy
 
Nov 29, 2011
ketostix pla... 25 posts

Topic: General Discussion / annoyed and fed up

Hi TcMonkey, I completed Dafne in March and the most important advice stick with it as it does work and become second nature. I am my own worst critic and if things dont work im guilty of over analizing. I never used to test and to be honest relied on luck for many years. My blood sugars are better but when I completed course they went bad, until I got on top of ratios and real world living. Your not on your own and very good sources of advice are available on here and your Health Care consultants. Keep smiling and have a great birthday!!! Dean Razz
 
Nov 29, 2011
Dave Marshall 7 posts

Topic: General Discussion / annoyed and fed up

Hi , Yes I agree with Theresaz it took me a few months to start getting my BG where I wanted them , but stick with it DAFNE does work , Very Happy
 
Nov 29, 2011
theresaz 13 posts

Topic: General Discussion / annoyed and fed up

Hello I'm sorry to hear that. i did Dafne probably about 5 years ago now or more and from memory it took me at least 3 - 5 months and to get things to a stage where I understood what I was doing and felt in control. The reason was that it took that time of writing results down and looking back, analysing them and spotting patterns. Also I needed to remember that every day in my life is different. ie. I eat different things every day, have different amounts of exercise, sometimes dirnk alcohol, have a cold etc, etc. Don't be too hard on yourself it just takes time and the benefits were worth it. I wiould go out and enjoy your dinner and not worry. My consultant always told me one blood sugar that wasn't right was neither here nor there so just do the best you can. I eat out quite a bit and even after years of practice it's really difficult to get carbs right in restaurants and being currently addicted to MasterChef and seeing the hidden sugars etc that is put in food I can see why. I hope this is of some encouragement and Happy Birthday for tomorrow.
 
Nov 29, 2011
tcmonkey80 41 posts

Topic: General Discussion / annoyed and fed up

Hey everybody, I've been doing the Dafne way for 2 months now. Have been diabetic for 7 years. My readings are worse now then when I guessed how much insulin to take.. well that's how it feels, to be honest I didn't test very much, until now.....just so annoyed because I am putting everything into the Dafne way and it just isn't happening.
Plus its my birthday tomorrow and I'm worried about going out for dinner and not counting carve right. Sad
 
Nov 29, 2011
novorapidboi26 1,816 posts

Topic: Questions for HCPs / High blood readings

Do you feel you need to go and see the nurse.............if there is a pattern then you probably need to up your ratio at breakfast.....................

its unfortunate you cant inject before, as the majority of folk benefit from giving the insulin time to get going..............
 
Nov 29, 2011
pancreotectomy 3 posts

Topic: Questions for HCPs / High blood readings

Hi Fifty years on thanks for your post unfortunately my bg is misbehaving today 10.5 before breakfast took 7.5 of nova rapid after breakfast (I always take my insulin after meals as I have a problem with eating & don't always eat what I prepare) & at lunch a shock bg 18.2 checked meter that was ok then took bg again 16.5. I feel ok but keeping an ye on things if still high at dinner time definitely Shocked a trip to see the diabetic nurse tomorrow, let's hope things stabilise.
 
Nov 29, 2011
novorapidboi26 1,816 posts

Topic: General Discussion / Funniest/strangest/worst hypo moment....

emma.nh said:
Not sure how relevant this is because I am so brittle and atypical... If I have fewer calories over a 24hr period my BI becomes too much and hypos follow. E



That is a strange observation..................are you on a pump?

If you had a carb free meal in an attempt to test you background/basal requirements and therefore less calories, could you get accurate results.......?
 
Nov 29, 2011
Fifty Years On 1 post

Topic: Questions for HCPs / High blood readings

Just to say that I'm taking Lantus twice a day 7 AM and 7 PM although my dose well down from the previous single night time dose of 26 units. I'm now taking 9 units mornings and 7 or 8 units evenings. I'd certainly suggest speaking to your diabetic nurse about split doses as I found it certainly helped me improve my control. Having said that I'm only up at this time because I did a 3 AM test myself. Foolishly didn't allow for high carbs in Branston Pickle with supper last night and BG went through the roof. I hope all settles down with you. Best wishes. Smile
 
Nov 28, 2011
hollylouise 7 posts

Topic: General Discussion / Feeling hungover!!

Nikki H-C said:
Dear all,
Having miscalculated my QI last night following chips and a battered sausage from the local chippy, I went to bed with hi levels and woke up with hi levels - See last 2 days readings attached. 19 before bed, +2 correction (obv not enough), 14 on waking up (+3 correction) and then about 6.8 ish all day.

Today, I feel like I've had a hangover all day and felt really tired. Now, at only 6.30pm, I'm considering going to bed as I still feel the same and am even bumping into things, walking in zig zag lines etc! No, no alcohol sinse Saturday night and even then only a small amount.

I'm not ill in anyway.

Is this a normal feeling after having been so high?

Many thanks for any thoughts you may have.


you mite find why you woke up with slight high sugars because you could off possible gone low in the night not woke up and your body has kicked in and kicked out to much glucose
 
Nov 28, 2011
emmahope 17 posts

Topic: General Discussion / Funniest/strangest/worst hypo moment....

Not sure how relevant this is because I am so brittle and atypical... If I have fewer calories over a 24hr period my BI becomes too much and hypos follow. E