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Nov 25, 2011
novorapidboi26 1,816 posts

Topic: General Discussion / Funniest/strangest/worst hypo moment....

So how much did you take for your salmon sandwich at 1635..................I would of expected a low before the next morning if this dose was too much though...............

Maybe your BI is too high, either that or alcohol...........!
 
Nov 25, 2011
mum2westiesGill 502 posts

Topic: General Discussion / Funniest/strangest/worst hypo moment....

novorapidboi26 said:
Any thought to the reasons behind your hypo?



Hi,

I know the last time i ate yesterday was 1635pm when i had a salmon sandwich & just my usual amnt / dose of QA, didn't have any tea & also no QA then at bedtime / suppertime i had salmon mashed up in a bowl with one or two small pieces of cheddar cheese in, then usual BI???

RE no tea, took pork steaks out of the fridge, they came with the shopping delivery on Tuesday, use by date was 27/11/11 & they were very or the normal pink colour underneath but going browny on top so chucked them as i did'nt want to risk a bout of food poisoning. Hubby said i should've taken them straight back to As--! Anyhow that was the end of the casserole Evil or Very Mad

Gill
 
Nov 25, 2011
novorapidboi26 1,816 posts

Topic: General Discussion / Funniest/strangest/worst hypo moment....

Any thought to the reasons behind your hypo?

 
Nov 25, 2011
mum2westiesGill 502 posts

Topic: General Discussion / Funniest/strangest/worst hypo moment....

Wooops!

Early this am (about 0700am when i checked on my meter before) i had a very bad hypo. Apparently i was jerking about in bed, my hubby said he somehow managed to roll me out of bed, fed me the usual, some jelly babies, i "walked" into the bathroom & sat on the toilet in the pitch black, my hubby was asking me if i'd done a test to which i started bursting out into fits of laughter, i woke the whole household (daughter & son) up, then i shouted to my hubby to go & get me a cheese sandwich, which he very kindly did .
When i checked my meter before my bs was 2.8 and yet i've had hypos at this level many a time before and always been fully capabable . Also when i checked my meter i'd done several or should i say lots of tests at the time of my hypo, no wonder my finger is sore today, lol.
I had a headache before but i'm glad to say i feel much better now I had porridge for brekkie and now i'm off to get some lunch.
 
Nov 25, 2011
mum2westiesGill 502 posts

Topic: General Discussion / Funniest/strangest/worst hypo moment....

Hi,

A few years ago possibly 4 or 5 i went out to Asda, had a cheese salad (cheese, lettuce, tomatoes etc), did a full injection of my QA, maybe 10u as a guess, think i was on Novorapid for QA & Insulatard for BI at the time, then several hours later i had a VERY bad hypo, falling about, banging my head against the wall in the bathroom even turned into a hamster throwing demon & threw my daughter's hamster across the room! I was in hospital for an overnight stay.

I once went through a stage where i was having hypos in a morning & tended to get very aggressive and adament that I was fine when my husband kept trying to "pour" lucozade down my neck.

I've also had them where i laugh hysterically.
 
Nov 25, 2011
novorapidboi26 1,816 posts

Topic: Carbohydrate Counting / Carb counting help!!!

Thats a good point................

Cooked and Uncooked Pasta is tricky.................as the cooked stuff will have absorbed water and therefore become more heavy ,however will contain less carbs per 100g.

This will only apply in the house if the pasta is being cooked for more than one person, otherwise the uncooked carb amount would still be valid as you would be eating it all to yourself anyway..........
 
Nov 25, 2011
novorapidboi26 1,816 posts

Topic: General Discussion / feeling unnormal

Did you give yourself insulin with those symptoms.....................

I have been like this a few times and if HI on the machine, I would normally take 25 units of insulin to get me back down quick............

What happened at the hospital..............?
 
Nov 25, 2011
Ahmentep 98 posts

Topic: Carbohydrate Counting / Carb counting help!!!

I've just remembered your question about pasta. Firstly you need to be more specific. What kind of pasta? Fresh or cooked? The carb counter on this site shows that 100g of fresh pasta represents 5.5 cp's or 55g of carbohydrate. This means that your pasta, at 291g, if it is fresh, and of the same kind as in the list, would represent 160.05g of carbohydrate, or 16 cp's (2.91 x 55 = 160.05).
 
Nov 25, 2011
Ahmentep 98 posts

Topic: Carbohydrate Counting / Carb counting help!!!

It's just observation, memory and common sense. No-one knows all this stuff at the beginning and everyone has to estimate when eating out. Over time you will be able to make reasonable estimates. At home you can weigh your food and then look up the carb value of it in one of the reference works available. I am impressed with the one on this site. Having a smartphone or tablet with you makes things easier, if this app is loaded. This is where memory comes in. When you know the carb value of a certain amount of potato, or pasta or whatever, you need to remember what that looks like on the plate. If you can do that then you can make intelligent adjustments next time, is the portion bigger or smaller than the one you weighed at home? As novorapidboi said, many foods have the amount of carb stated on the package/ tin/bottle etc. This is sometimes given as a value per piece, sometimes as Xg of carb per 100g of the food. Every ten grams of carb being 1cp.
You'll get there! Just remember, practice makes perfect. :-)
Talk to your HCP, ask him/her to go over ratios again with you. That's what they are there for after all. This is important because you will require different amounts of insulin for every ten grams of carb at different times of the day.
I've just thought about sausages. You can be really caught out by sausages. Some of the sausages that we buy from supermarkets can be around 6g of carb per sausage, but the ones we get from the butcher are only about 1g per sausage. You can't assume that two things that look the same have the same value. Mistakes will be made. Don't worry about it. Keep checking values and trying to remember them and what they look like in terms of the volume of food on the plate.

Best of luck! :-)
 
Nov 24, 2011
hollylouise 7 posts

Topic: General Discussion / feeling unnormal

novorapidboi26 said:
In my opinion, the longer you have Diabetes, the easier it gets...........................Sometimes I can't be bothered with my injection, and sometimes very rarely I may eat something and not bother to take insulin for it...................but I am now motivated to keep my injections going because of DAFNE, and by that I mean, if I do miss it, then my blood sugars wont make sense................and I like to know why the numbers on my sheet are what they are. This is what DAFNE has done to me, and its good.

However, not everyone gets the same out of the course as me....................how long have you been Diabetic...........?

How high were you when you went in to hospital? What were your symptoms?

Even after all these years, if I am eating out, I will always go into the toilet, or inject discretely into my stomach...................dont really notice people staring, but I suppose everyone has different confidence levels, and if you show you are confident and happy about injecting in front of strangers, no one will make a big deal about it............

Just an observation, how are you inputting your RATIO in the online diary..............?



i have had mine since i was 5 and now 18,my blood montor just said high and i had high ketons in my blood and my symptoms were shortness off breath,vomermting and bad smelly breath
 
Nov 24, 2011
Maya 5 posts

Topic: Carbohydrate Counting / Carb counting help!!!

I am on a 1:1 ratio I don't understand like if I have a bowl of pasta n the weight is 291 g how many carbohydrate grams is that or is that whatbi have to look up in the book
Just in case I am out dnt have the book n kno the weight of something how do I kno how many cp there is
 
Nov 24, 2011
novorapidboi26 1,816 posts

Topic: Carbohydrate Counting / Carb counting help!!!

In the majority of cases you should be using the packaging labels, for times when your out and about the carbs and cals book off amazon is really useful. It gives you a visual image of.different size portions in relation to a dinner plate.

Using this is much more effective than guessing...

The rule of 10grams = 1 unit still applies.........once you have your units, you then multiply them by your ratio......

What are your ratios currently.......?
 
Nov 24, 2011
Dave Marshall 7 posts

Topic: General Discussion / feeling unnormal

Only had one problem in 4 years , most of the time no problem at all , yes people stare but when I look at them they tend to look away , I wont stop injecting in publc but do try to do it without anyone seeing me ,,,,,,,,,,and I must say why ?
 
Nov 24, 2011
marke 643 posts

Topic: General Discussion / Hi BG

Hi, just spotted this thread sorry. Yes steroids DO cause insulin restistance which obviously raises your BG. They should have explained this to you when you had the treatment if they knew you were a diabetic. My case was slightly different in that I had to take the steriods over a period of months, it is very frustrating since they don't have a linear effect on your BG. By this I mean the more CP's you eat the bigger the effect that the steriods seem to have.
I agree you should speak to an expert on this , there are a number of types of steroid and the effects of each type may be different. However a consultant should know exactly what effect you should expect, even a GP should know the basics ( although mine did not apparently ). I would guess the injection you had IS having an effect and you will
need assistance when the effect of the steroids wear off since your insulin requirements will drop back down and you will need to adjust for this as well.
 
Nov 24, 2011
Maya 5 posts

Topic: Carbohydrate Counting / Carb counting help!!!

I have just done the Dafne course but am still having trouble with my food trying to work out bout the carbs etc to kno how much insulin to give
Does anyone kno any tips
 
Nov 24, 2011
SimonC 78 posts

Topic: General Discussion / feeling unnormal

I have been type for 20years now - and I have always, when out and about, injected in public - in my view, and it is only my view, I have to inject, they don't have to look. To be honest I have never had any adverse reaction from anyone and I have never noticed anyone being affected - although I couldn't care less about them and so am not looking. The times I have had a reaction, it has always been curiosity and has opened up a discussion about diabetes and its control. Most non diabetics are unaware - not surprisingly, of how the condition is controlled and what to do if they come across a diabetic in difficulties, and so I feel these discussions are for the good as they help educate people.

Whilst I wish I didn't have diabetes, I am certainly not going to hide away because I do. If people don't like me injecting, it is their problem not mine, and as mention above - I have to inject, they don't have to look.
 
Nov 24, 2011
Minesh Patel 4 posts

Topic: General Discussion / Hi BG

Garry said:
I noticed that Marke, in one of the other recent threads, mentioned insulin resistance when steroids have been used. So he may have had a similar experience. Suggest you make your BI changes in a progressive way allowing perhaps 3 days between alterations - gives time for it to work through your system.
Stick with it Smile
Regards
Garry



Thanks Garry

I will be try the Adjustments from tonight and hopefully that will work

Thanks
 
Nov 24, 2011
Garry 328 posts

Topic: General Discussion / Hi BG

I noticed that Marke, in one of the other recent threads, mentioned insulin resistance when steroids have been used. So he may have had a similar experience. Suggest you make your BI changes in a progressive way allowing perhaps 3 days between alterations - gives time for it to work through your system.
Stick with it Smile
Regards
Garry
 
Nov 24, 2011
novorapidboi26 1,816 posts

Topic: Carbohydrate Counting / Snack Ideas - under 10g of carbs

You can have it at any time of the day as well..........................


The last time I had it, I actually upgraded the delight to 'eggs in a bowl'......................6 eggs were used along with the addition of black pepper.......... Embarassed
 
Nov 24, 2011
novorapidboi26 1,816 posts

Topic: General Discussion / Hi BG

Yeah, although there may be more going on, like dawn phenomenon, the first thing to do is get your evening BI dose up, so as to get that morning reading down..................

At least to as far as it can go without going low overnight..............

After that, you can then think tactics if the dawn phenomenon is having an affect.............

Look forward to hearing your results........... Cool
 
Nov 24, 2011
mum2westiesGill 502 posts

Topic: Carbohydrate Counting / Snack Ideas - under 10g of carbs

novorapidboi26 said:
Eggs in a cup with butter and salt................................. Laughing


Carb free, buttery goodness......................



I'll leave you to guess what i've just had for brekkie Very Happy but also with 2 x rounds bread & butter.
 
Nov 24, 2011
Minesh Patel 4 posts

Topic: General Discussion / Hi BG

novorapidboi26 said:
I couldn't quote anything, but I believe steroids do increase blood sugar levels, the science is unknown to me though..............

When bood sugars get out of control, the best thing to do it start from the beginning again, so that means background insulin testing, starting with over night..............

Have no QA or carbs before bed and record your before bed and breakfast readings for a few days, adjust if needed, when satisfied move to the daytime dose.................

Only then can you move to the QA:CP ratios........................

As I said, I think I have heard steroids do affect the blood sugar levels, for how long is unknown............might be worth seeking advice from a consultant regarding your steroid and what effects it might have and for how long.............

In the short term, the only solution for higher BG is to increase your insulin amounts.................

If you need any help with that dont hesitate to ask any questions you might have.............. Wink




Thanks for that.

I havent been eating before bed. I do my BG before bed and in the morning & its high.
I am constantly high all day even if i take xtra day time insulin. I will try adjusting the Background

Thxs
 
Nov 24, 2011
novorapidboi26 1,816 posts

Topic: General Discussion / Hi BG

I couldn't quote anything, but I believe steroids do increase blood sugar levels, the science is unknown to me though..............

When bood sugars get out of control, the best thing to do it start from the beginning again, so that means background insulin testing, starting with over night..............

Have no QA or carbs before bed and record your before bed and breakfast readings for a few days, adjust if needed, when satisfied move to the daytime dose.................

Only then can you move to the QA:CP ratios........................

As I said, I think I have heard steroids do affect the blood sugar levels, for how long is unknown............might be worth seeking advice from a consultant regarding your steroid and what effects it might have and for how long.............

In the short term, the only solution for higher BG is to increase your insulin amounts.................

If you need any help with that dont hesitate to ask any questions you might have.............. Wink
 
Nov 24, 2011
Minesh Patel 4 posts

Topic: General Discussion / Hi BG

Hi

I have hope someone can help.

My BG of late for 4 weeks have been so high i mean in the 20's. I take Levemire AM - 8 & PM - 7. I take Lispro for fast acting, i eat take my insulin plus extra and still constantly high, which is really effecting my life Sad Sad

I have recently had a Fluroscopy Guided Injection on Right Shoulder steroid based.

Does this have an effect on BG if so how long

Sad
 
Nov 24, 2011
novorapidboi26 1,816 posts

Topic: Carbohydrate Counting / Snack Ideas - under 10g of carbs

Eggs in a cup with butter and salt................................. Laughing


Carb free, buttery goodness......................