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Jan 13, 2012
Chchch
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Topic: Carbohydrate Counting / Counting veg It's funny what you say Helen about a carb free day being a no food day - I'm reading a book at the moment (forgive me, can't remember the name, but it's to do with success on a pump- highly recommended) and he says to test basal you should eat nothing apart from a small (small was in bold) amount of cheese or nuts. This is contrary to Dafne obv, which says you could have meat, eggs, salad, etc. I'll be testing my basal today so will only be having the little bit of cheese - I'll let you know how I get on. I'll be delirious with hunger!Sorry to hear you have such a nightmare with your control - it is in my experience an incredibly frustrating condition. I always think that if I didn't have diabetes I don't know what I'd do with my time! |
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Jan 13, 2012
Aarti
4 posts
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Topic: Questions for HCPs / steroids and glucose management I have a patient who has to have steroids post chemotherapy which is making her blood sugars go extremely high whilst on the steroids. She is increasing her ratio 4-fold but still not managing glucose levels. Has anyone got any experience in dealing with glucose management whilst on steroids? |
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Jan 13, 2012
HelenP
218 posts
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Topic: General Discussion / Street Food I am not so sure the pump is more discreet. Every time I eat I do a blood test, drag out the pump enter the carbs and the Bg count up the units etc and press the button. It certainly takes longer than just doing a mental calculation and winding it up. In my experience more people are familiar with insulin injections but the sight of a pump and the plastic tube disappearing into you somewhere is cause for curiosity. If I cop a stare I simple say "it keeps me alive!" Some ask what it is but most are embarrassed!In Australia we don't have multiple layers of clothes issue to deal with, My theory is if you do it quickly then less people notice. Helen |
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Jan 13, 2012
novorapidboi26
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Topic: General Discussion / Exciting news............ Confirmed a girl......................So a wee boy and a wee girl, the perfect family.................. 
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Jan 13, 2012
novorapidboi26
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Topic: Carbohydrate Counting / Counting veg Thanks a lot............it was confirmed last night as a girl with a 4d scan, really excited now..............Thats a lot of corrections......do you think it may be connected with menstrual behavior, obviously I am not experienced with this, but the time scales you are describing seem to be similar........... Your need to count all items on plate can be explained by the pump, due to lack of a slower acting insulin to mop up the fats and proteins............ How long have you been pumping........ |
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Jan 13, 2012
HelenP
218 posts
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Topic: Carbohydrate Counting / Counting veg Hi Novorapidboi!When on MDIs I was on 90+ a day with 68 being Lantus (2x34 6am/6pm) and the rest (30 odd) was 10CPs at about 2.7 units per CP. On a pump now and on a really good day the basals are 38.8 a day and the rest (still 100g of CHO) make up the 25units. The pump has been good BUT I still experience days (or rather consecutive days) where the corrections can add 30 units to the total. I am currently being investigated for chronic low grade infection in an attempt to find a cause for the four-five day periods (about every two-three weeks) where the BGs are a nightmare. Long way from it just ticking over! I try to lead a very routine life as I find the diabetes more manageable Congratulations on the baby news. Helen |
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Jan 13, 2012
novorapidboi26
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Topic: General Discussion / SE KENT PCT DAFNE scrapped Thats rubbish................Do you think staff could still be trained up in DAFNE in order to support those graduates that remain? marke, I hope your questions will get folk talking........... |
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Jan 13, 2012
novorapidboi26
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Topic: Carbohydrate Counting / Counting veg I am 70-120 units a day, 70 being my BI dose................so millions...........I assume your BI dose is nearer the 55 mark? |
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Jan 13, 2012
ChrisS
12 posts
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Topic: General Discussion / SE KENT PCT DAFNE scrapped I did my DAFNE course at Medway Maritime. Not sure if its in SE Kent PCT but I have no access to DAFNE trained nurse since the last one left a year ago. She left partly because she couldn't get funding to hold courses. |
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Jan 12, 2012
HelenP
218 posts
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Topic: Carbohydrate Counting / Counting veg I have always needed to count salads, green veg etc as having carbs. I count a fair size salad as 10g and a fair size serving of greens, squash etc as 8gms, I also count any protein over 100g as 10% of the total weight. Basically one smallish drumstick is "free" with a 10g salad (counted) but two chicken drumsticks and a salad is counted as 15-18g CHO. One egg "free" but two as 12-15g CHO. All trial and error.In my book there is no such thing as a carb free meal unless it is also food free! I am on large doses of insulin. TDD 55-90u/day. Helen |
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Jan 12, 2012
novorapidboi26
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Topic: Carbohydrate Counting / Counting veg Again, confirming high sensitivity to carbs, you must digest at the speed of light............. A mixture of quickly absorbed items with a slower absorbed item would simply slow down the absorption for me.......... Do you find that each item you eat can show up on your blood results...........? Are ratios not to do with sensitivity as opposed to with digestion times? if things absorb quicker then timing of injection should be considered..... |
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Jan 12, 2012
PNThompson
57 posts
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Topic: Carbohydrate Counting / Counting veg If I have 3 or 4 pieces of veg, when you count them all together they can make 2 or 2 CP and when I'm on a ratio of 2:1 it can make a difference to my control.I count everything, even things like tomato sauce as a number of small carbs add up to several CPsm I find any meal difficult as some foods absorb quicker and may result in a hypo if you use the same ratiom. I count as much as possible to try and keep my BG in range. |
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Jan 12, 2012
novorapidboi26
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Topic: General Discussion / Dafne diary I use the online diary, but I personally find having your results written down in front of you the best way to spot patterns and take notes.................So I just whipped up an Excel spreadsheet which gives me 5 days a page and lots of space for writing thing down............ |
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Jan 12, 2012
novorapidboi26
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Topic: Carbohydrate Counting / Counting veg So would you be sitting down to 100g minimum of these vegetables........................?I would think you wouldn't so your counting would only be small fractions of a carb portion right..........? This would suggest a high sensitivity to carbs......... |
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Jan 12, 2012
novorapidboi26
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Topic: Carbohydrate Counting / fresh cherries? A source from the internet said that 10 cherries contained 10.9g of carbohydrate, so not a lot of carbs there..............The reason the handbook says that cherries shouldn't be counted is because they has a low Glycemic Index, which basically means it has a minimal effect on the blood sugar due to slow absorption, so the QA insulin we take would be too fast for it, and so leaving it up to your BI insulin to process...... However, everyone is different, some folk even need to consider QA insulin for protein and fats, people who are on smaller doses of BI or on pumps can experience this........ So, the best thing to do is eat your cherries, and then test and record to see what happens, then tweak your insulin if you need to........... Hopefully you can consume copious amounts of cherries without any worry of insulin............... Oh, and welcome to the forum.............
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Jan 12, 2012
Nick69
1 post
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Topic: General Discussion / Dafne diary Why not just use the DAFNE Tools My Blood Glucose Diary on the Right hand side of this screen, it works great |
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Jan 12, 2012
novorapidboi26
1,819 posts
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Topic: General Discussion / Street Food
Well we know its actually never the case, at least for Type 1s, and actually Type 2s have a disposition to it also.......... Its the difference between the 2 types that need to be put out there.............as long as the diabetics know the score I am happy.............
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Jan 12, 2012
JennyNZ
29 posts
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Topic: Carbohydrate Counting / fresh cherries? hi all. Just logged on for the first time - what a great little site!! Have a question about fresh cherries. Down here in NZ its the middle of summer so all the pip fruit are out - yum! but cant find CP's for cherries anywhere - what are they? The carbs for cherries are 18g per 1 cup but they dont appear in the CP book and it says in the DAFNE book that you dont count CP's for them - any idea why not?Jen |
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Jan 12, 2012
meltow
78 posts
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Topic: General Discussion / Dafne diary http://www.dafne.uk.com/uploads/224/documents/F05.008,%20Version%208%20-%20Diary,%20CHO%20Books%20and%20Foodplates%20Order%20Form.pdfLink to the online order form |
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Jan 11, 2012
williammcleod
6 posts
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Topic: General Discussion / Street Food I know where you are coming from Christine and respect your opion as its pretty much each to their own. From my point of view I refuse to be pushed into toilets etc to inject. I am very open about my diabetes and try to educate people. I didnt ask for it nor did i engage in a lifestyle liable to cause diabetes. I have diabetes I have to live with it and nothing or noone will stop me living life to the full. I suppose the press dont help matters though as they put across that diabetes is purley caused by an unhealthy lifestyle which we know is not always the case. |
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Jan 11, 2012
PNThompson
57 posts
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Topic: Site Development / Any plans for a blackberry app I currently use the App on the iPod but without any Wi-Fi makes it difficult to use as it is designed for the iPhone and uses the iPhone to upload the info.I have now got a Blackberry and would appreciate if somebody could create an App but I understand that this takes time and requires somebody with experience to create one. I wish I knew about creating Apps and I would have a go. |
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Jan 11, 2012
PNThompson
57 posts
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Topic: Carbohydrate Counting / Counting veg I do count Veg. If you look at frozen Veg you do find that there is a small amount of Carbs.A lot of the Vegetables I eat are fresh so you don't know but if you search on-line (Google, etc) you can find websites that provide Carb contents for Veg. A boiled onion (With.Without Salt) contains 10.2g per 100g, while Brussel Sprouts (Boiled) contain around 8.7g per 100g. I believe that there will be a small sugar content in all Vegetables which result in a need for them to be counted. |
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Jan 11, 2012
marke
681 posts
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Topic: General Discussion / Dafne diary I also have a word template that I use to print my diaries. However it is not guaranteed to work for you since every printer seems to print it slightly differently. I am happy to send it to you if you want me to. |
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Jan 11, 2012
marke
681 posts
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Topic: General Discussion / Dafne diary Your initial resource for obtaining Blood Glucose Diaries should be your local DAFNE Centre. Your local DAFNE Educators should receive supplies of DAFNE Blood Glucose Diaries.If your DAFNE Centre does not have any copies available or you have lost contact with your DAFNE Educators, you can obtain copies for a small fee from the DAFNE Programme Team. The best way of ordering them is by using the DAFNE Website. If you go to www.dafne.uk.com and then select ‘People with Type 1 Diabetes’ from the left hand menu, followed by ‘DAFNE Shop’. Here you can order a number of DAFNE related items including Blood Glucose Diaries. |
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Jan 11, 2012
Maya
5 posts
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Topic: General Discussion / Dafne diary I have lost my Dafne diary does anyone kno were I can get another from ASAPThanks |