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Nov 8, 2013
novorapidboi26 1,819 posts

Topic: General Discussion / 7-day waking average

Rafa said:
I was 3.1 yesterday morning at 10am so took 1 cp and was then 11.2 at 2pm. I didn't correct at this stage with my lunch and was 8.5 when going out for a run at 615pm and then 20 minutes later i was 6.2. Happy enough with that so had my dinner 6 cps but stupidly gave my qa of 6. Anyway two hours later i was 5.9 and was starving so had some toast of 6cp and don't ask me why but i took the qa with it of 6. As a result i was 2.6 going to bed so took 1 cp and fell asleep. Woke up at 7am and was 2.8. I had four cps and took qa of 2. I just checked now and i am 11.2. Without being stupid i am right in saying i should have taken 6-2 qa for my dinner last night and this wouldn't be happening now?



That's one way to tackle it yeah..........you can also reduce your BI for activities that are quite intense and long in duration, like a run, as you will see the effect of the activity right into the next day as your muscles replenish their stores of energy from the blood stream....
 
Nov 8, 2013
novorapidboi26 1,819 posts

Topic: General Discussion / 7-day waking average

Louise1988 said:
Before bed last night: 10.7 (didn't correct as qa from dinner was still working)
This morning: 8.2. Had 3cps for breakfast so had 3u and 0.5 correction dose.
4hours later, my bg is 4.9

Does this mean that 0.5u drops my bg by 3?!



Providing your completely certain BI and QA ratios are correct then you could conclude that yes.......would be good to see a different breakfast the next day and see how it goes then too......
 
Nov 8, 2013
Phil Maskell 194 posts

Topic: General Discussion / 7-day waking average

Louise,

Unless 1:1 ratio at breakfast is wrong or it was less than 3cps or BG too high!

Too many variables and possibilities for any of us to ever get this 100%!

Phil
 
Nov 8, 2013
Rafa 99 posts

Topic: General Discussion / 7-day waking average

I was 3.1 yesterday morning at 10am so took 1 cp and was then 11.2 at 2pm. I didn't correct at this stage with my lunch and was 8.5 when going out for a run at 615pm and then 20 minutes later i was 6.2. Happy enough with that so had my dinner 6 cps but stupidly gave my qa of 6. Anyway two hours later i was 5.9 and was starving so had some toast of 6cp and don't ask me why but i took the qa with it of 6. As a result i was 2.6 going to bed so took 1 cp and fell asleep. Woke up at 7am and was 2.8. I had four cps and took qa of 2. I just checked now and i am 11.2. Without being stupid i am right in saying i should have taken 6-2 qa for my dinner last night and this wouldn't be happening now?
 
Nov 8, 2013
Louise1988 69 posts

Topic: General Discussion / 7-day waking average

Before bed last night: 10.7 (didn't correct as qa from dinner was still working)
This morning: 8.2. Had 3cps for breakfast so had 3u and 0.5 correction dose.
4hours later, my bg is 4.9

Does this mean that 0.5u drops my bg by 3?!
 
Nov 8, 2013
Phil Maskell 194 posts

Topic: General Discussion / Is it normal!

Louise,

I think ratios are fine, hindsight and all I think I missed judged carbs in dinner, then over corrected, nothing new there really. Just fed up with having to deal with this rubbish and ranting.

Thanks,

Phil
 
Nov 8, 2013
Louise1988 69 posts

Topic: General Discussion / Is it normal!

Hi Phil, It's perfectly normal to go through bouts of being annoyed and fed up with the fact that you have diabetes. I bet you'll find it difficult finding someone who doesn't ever feel annoyed with the diabetes. Do you have much contact with your diabetes team? It could be a case of different ratios or something.

I'm a peer support volunteer for Diabetes UK so feel free to email me [email protected] if you want to chat about what you're having trouble with. Hope today is a better day for you!
 
Nov 8, 2013
Louise1988 69 posts

Topic: General Discussion / Peer Support for People with Diabetes

Let me know when that Tweetchat is hosted, definitely one I'm interested in!

I noticed you retweeted, thanks!

The whole thing about the peer support scheme that I'm doing, is that no one should feel like they are isolated. I'm amazed every time I post a blog about whatever aspect is 'ruining my life', and I have people telling me they're feeling exactly the same!

Have a good day, everyone. Feel free to email [email protected] if you need to chat.
 
Nov 8, 2013
JayBee 587 posts

Topic: General Discussion / Peer Support for People with Diabetes

I didn't make the hangout but made the #ourD chat near its finish. Will be interesting to read their post chat blog.

I've put forward a discussion idea though I'm very hesitant to be the host because of my account suspension. They said they're happy to host it on my behalf. It'll be about Diabetes and Loved Ones.

Cool about the site. I saw the tweet about it and retweeted it straightaway. Smile

Will post ideas if I have any. Tips on positive self talk would be a good one. Had to do that a lot recently with my dose adjustments causing highs but sometimes you need to walk through the red to get to the green. It can be very challenging when you feel isolated at the same time (which I often do I will admit).

Hope everyone is coping okay.
 
Nov 8, 2013
Phil Maskell 194 posts

Topic: General Discussion / Is it normal!

Hi,

I have been diabetic since '87, so a while, did DAFNE in 2005, so been at this for some time now.

Is it normal to get waves of being annoyed/ fed up/ depressed with it all?

Last night I had a perfect BG 6.5 before driving home. 7 before dinner, 24.9 before walking the dog in the evening! What and why! I am a bit OCD when I'm in the mood about controlling things (other times I let it slide, don't write any BG down,HbA1c suffers!) and then I get crap like that, I corrected and went massively hypo, needed 140 carbs to keep a reasonable BG before bed!

Just ranting as feel naff after massive hypo last night!

Phil
 
Nov 8, 2013
Louise1988 69 posts

Topic: General Discussion / 7-day waking average

Aw, did you have a good night, though? Eating out is always tricky.Hopefully you'll be able to notice something tomorrow morning.
 
Nov 8, 2013
mum2westiesGill 502 posts

Topic: General Discussion / 7-day waking average

18.5 - 22:36pm - bedtime
- totally messed up night
- on the positive side really enjoyed going out for an indian meal to celebrate hubby's 49th birthday
- on the negative side messed up with estimating the carbs, I worked out 57g but should have been more like 87g!
- then had 2 choc digestives & 2 rich tea after bedtime test but with no QA which is what I usually do anyway because I don't like to take QA before going to bed to sleep.
15.2 - 07:57am - fasting

lantus decreases:
Tue 29.10 from 24u to 22u
Sat 02.10 from 22u to 20u
Tue 6.11 from 20u to 18u
 
Nov 7, 2013
Louise1988 69 posts

Topic: General Discussion / Peer Support for People with Diabetes

Hi JayBee, did you join the hangout this week? I couldn't make it, will hopefully catch up next week.

Just to let you know, we have now got out site up and running, http://diabetespeersupport.blogspot.co.uk/

We'll be putting up some useful information up in the near future, and there'll be plenty of room for interaction. If anyone has any ideas of what resources you'd like us to provide, please feel free to get in contact! Smile
 
Nov 7, 2013
Vickyp 137 posts

Topic: Carbohydrate Counting / Carbs n cals app

I use a mixture of both myfitnesspal and carbandcals apps. A lot of food whilst out etc isn't on carbs and cake but is easily found on myfitnesspal. I also gave the pocket carbs and cals book but only really use at home as never leave house without phone so have the apps for when I'm out. My mum was impressed by the apps when she first saw me using them!
 
Nov 7, 2013
Vickyp 137 posts

Topic: Questions for HCPs / Think my Novorapid is too slow!

I have delayed highs after Chinese too, now on the pump I extend the bolus which helps. But like novorapidboi I see a takeaway as a treat so don't worry too much about getting the dose perfectly right.
 
Nov 7, 2013
Viz 7 posts

Topic: Carbohydrate Counting / Carbs n cals app

Lol they should give u some shares in the company lol. Il definetly have to try that one , sounds goods ! Thanks for that. I'm new to the basal bolus regime as I was on novamix 30 for 24 years twice a day injections changed to this 6 weeks ago and wish I did this years ago !! More injections but better control ( it's worth it ). Thanks again
 
Nov 7, 2013
novorapidboi26 1,819 posts

Topic: Carbohydrate Counting / Carbs n cals app

It is good.


I actually have the pocket size book with me at all times, it only has a small and large portion to view but its still really helpful when out and about.......

I feel like I keep banging on about this but the myfitnesspal app lets you search for your food and drink and then lets you add it to whatever meal time your having it in, then gives you a carb total at the end. Takes the whole carb counting to another level, and also keeps a record of what you have eaten.

It literally has pretty much everything you can think of from supermarket items, even LIDL and ALDI up here in Scotland, and has all the well known eateries and fast food establishments, and you can scan bar codes too if typing in a particularly long named product doesn't sound fun. It also remembers the items you have had before which makes it even more convenient.

Lol, I honestly don't work for them.........


 
Nov 7, 2013
Viz 7 posts

Topic: Carbohydrate Counting / Carbs n cals app

Thanks for your reply il try that. It's a great app and very helpfull with the carb counting.
 
Nov 7, 2013
Rafa 99 posts

Topic: Questions for HCPs / Think my Novorapid is too slow!

novorapidboi26 said:
Maybe not three hours afterwards, maybe an hour to an hour and a half.............

However, it will be different for everyone, so will need to be tested out a few times........ Smile

Also, the ratio of split can be played with also.......so 25% up front, the remaining after........but its good to start with a 50/50 split in the beginning.......

For me personally a take away is a treat and so if I don't pin the dose down perfectly it doesn't really matter......that's my logic anyway..... Cool



Thanks a lot. Wouldn't eat many myself either.
 
Nov 7, 2013
novorapidboi26 1,819 posts

Topic: Questions for HCPs / Think my Novorapid is too slow!

Maybe not three hours afterwards, maybe an hour to an hour and a half.............

However, it will be different for everyone, so will need to be tested out a few times........ Smile

Also, the ratio of split can be played with also.......so 25% up front, the remaining after........but its good to start with a 50/50 split in the beginning.......

For me personally a take away is a treat and so if I don't pin the dose down perfectly it doesn't really matter......that's my logic anyway..... Cool
 
Nov 7, 2013
Rafa 99 posts

Topic: General Discussion / Endurance Exercise and BG

Phil Maskell said:
Rafa,

I find if I am high (cos I've overdone the gels or not enough QA on board) when I get back before dinner I will not correct, if it was a long/strenuous ride rather than a relaxed social thing I will lower my QA for the next meal regardless of BG and then check again at bed.

For 20-25 mins of running this might not be the case, at 12.8 not correcting does it drop anyway?

Phil



Hi Phil, i actually corrected and was 9.6 going to bed three hours later. I was 12.0 the next morning at 6am.
 
Nov 7, 2013
Louise1988 69 posts

Topic: General Discussion / 7-day waking average

I guess maybe you could try it again tonight and see. Would also be good to see what happens, without eating any carbs.
 
Nov 7, 2013
novorapidboi26 1,819 posts

Topic: General Discussion / Suggestions

glad all is well again...... Cool
 
Nov 7, 2013
Phil Maskell 194 posts

Topic: General Discussion / Endurance Exercise and BG

Rafa,

I find if I am high (cos I've overdone the gels or not enough QA on board) when I get back before dinner I will not correct, if it was a long/strenuous ride rather than a relaxed social thing I will lower my QA for the next meal regardless of BG and then check again at bed.

For 20-25 mins of running this might not be the case, at 12.8 not correcting does it drop anyway?

Phil
 
Nov 7, 2013
mum2westiesGill 502 posts

Topic: General Discussion / 7-day waking average

Louise1988 said:
Hm, interesting. It would have been interesting to know your bg level a) without the biscuits or b)during the night. I have a feeling that without the biscuits, you may have been just about right this morning. Do you inject for your biscuits?



Hi Louise,
I didn't inject for the biscuits because I really don't like to inject QA before going to bed to sleep.

I'm wondering if it still indicates that my lantus dose is still too high because I had 22g carbs with no QA insulin.