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Aug 29, 2013

Rafa 99 posts

Topic: Questions for HCPs / Blood Glucose in the morning

novorapidboi26 said:
That's really good numbers.....for me they would be anyway, all pretty close to each other too.........

a wee tweak to timing or dose may even bring you down lower........

well done........

Thanks. Delighted to be honest. Lets just say it's a long time since i can remember readings like them in the morning! Just have to keep on top of it now.

Aug 29, 2013

novorapidboi26 1,819 posts

Topic: Questions for HCPs / Blood Glucose in the morning

That's really good numbers.....for me they would be anyway, all pretty close to each other too.........

a wee tweak to timing or dose may even bring you down lower........

well done........

Aug 29, 2013

Rafa 99 posts

Topic: Questions for HCPs / High Bloods

I noticed today at lunch i was 4.7 and had 9 cps but because i am going for a run after work i just took 7 untis of aq. This was at 1.25pm and then just there at 3.35pm i was 18.4. Now normally mid afternoon i would be between 11-13 but when i would have my dinner at 7-7.30pm i would be within range. I ate 2 cps there and took 2 qa for it and a +2 because i was afraid the lunch time qa did not go into me. Didn't want to be getting ready for the runa nd find i was 18. Any opinions please?

Aug 29, 2013

Rafa 99 posts

Topic: Questions for HCPs / Blood Glucose in the morning

Since i increased my BI on Sunday night to 16 from 15 and started taking my BI before bed and when i get up at 6am my readings at 6am in the morning have been as follows, 8.2 Monday, 6.4 Tuesday, 6.8 Wednesday and 7.2 this morning.

Aug 27, 2013

marke 686 posts

Topic: Questions for HCPs / ACCURATE BG READINGS

The 'warwick' part was my understanding of the Diabetes Experiment book i.e generally your body will only breakdown protein to glucose if it has no other option i.e no carbs to convert. I believe that protein conversion is also slower than standard carb conversion i.e like a low GI food. I think it is excluded from DAFNE because it is too complex an area for most people to try to get their heads round especially as a lot of people may have just been introduced to catb counting and a lot of other new ideas.

Aug 25, 2013

mum2westiesGill 502 posts

Topic: General Discussion / Increase of Lantus/BI

First 2 days back home but 24/08 involves going to a wedding blessing/reception

Aug 25, 2013

mum2westiesGill 502 posts

Topic: General Discussion / Increase of Lantus/BI

Last 5 days of hols, abroad, Lanzarote. Readings are so far all taken from meter with no meals/comments entered. Please comment

Aug 25, 2013

mum2westiesGill 502 posts

Topic: General Discussion / Increase of Lantus/BI

First 5 days of hols, abroad, Lanzarote. Readings are so far all taken from meter with no meals/comments entered. Please comment

Aug 25, 2013

mum2westiesGill 502 posts

Topic: General Discussion / Increase of Lantus/BI

Last 2 days before going on hols

Aug 24, 2013

JayBee 587 posts

Topic: Questions for HCPs / ACCURATE BG READINGS

marke said:
Jwo can you explain why you think Protein affects blood glucose ? Some references etc, I'm not sure I agree with your statement. The reason DAFNE ( not just the UK as far as I am aware) do not
count Protein is it is a very complex area that is not straightforward. This is why I am cautious about stating it as a 'fact'.

I currently count protein myself. To be exact:

Add up total protein; if it is over 20g, that book (by a lady called Ginger) mentioned on the Experiment 1 thread directs to minus 20 from that and then divide the total by 2. A lot of my BGs have started making a lot more sense since doing this. I had hit a wall with working out my doses before starting to try it.

Further along however, Warwick has enlightened me to another approach but I have not applied it myself yet. If needed, I can try to find it in my long running help thread found in the HCP section of the forums since I cannot remember exactly what was given as direction (something about if only eating proteins then take insulin but if with carbs then don't, but I might be remembering wrong).

Edit:
Found it, it's on Page 17 of my thread. To quote:

Warwick said:
2) Protein - Gary believes that protein does raise BGLs but only if no carb is consumed with it. So if you consume carbs and protein, don't worry about the protein portion, but if it is a carb-free meal with protein, then treat the protein as being half carb, and dose for it. E.g. if you have 30g of protein and no carb, then take QA as if you had had 15g carb.

Seems to be a few ideas bouncing around. :S

Aug 24, 2013

SueB 3 posts

Topic: Questions for HCPs / Centrizine Hydrochloride and an affect on insulin sensitivity

I have been taking ceterizine continuously for many years as have chronic rhinitis (basically a dust allergy that causes a constant runny nose if don't take anything). My ratios are stable at 1:1.5. Maybe the effect is noticeable as you only took for a short time and I have been taking so long any effect on me is my normal.

Aug 23, 2013

marke 686 posts

Topic: Questions for HCPs / Centrizine Hydrochloride and an affect on insulin sensitivity

can't say I have ever noticed this effect. I used to take truck loads of Cetirizine and never really had any side effects, however we are obviously all different and what happens to me may not happen to you and vice-versa. Its not a published side-effect of the drug, but for most drugs the published side-effects are those widely observed in a number of people not individuals.

Aug 23, 2013

Garry 328 posts

Topic: Questions for HCPs / Centrizine Hydrochloride and an affect on insulin sensitivity

Took an anti histamine tablet a day, for 5 days, after being bitten on the leg, by a fly in the garden.
Big itch driving me crackers and some swelling which I was concerned about.
Insulin resistant and normally have to use QA ratios of 2:1 or 2.5:1 and 2:1 with meals but found I needed to knock the dinner ratio back particularly to 1.5:1.
Has anyone else noticed this?
Maybe I am erroneously connecting two things here. Would appreciate help from HCPs or another forum user who may use these tablets on a more regular basis.
Regards
Garry

Aug 23, 2013

Rafa 99 posts

Topic: General Discussion / Background insulin (BI)

Carolin said:
Rafa said:
Many thanks for the replies. No stupidly i didn&#x27;t treat any of them. Crazy really. Will try again tonight to get into range nad do a 3am. I have all my recordings etc recorded so will wait until Monday and post my last weeks readings to see what people think. Last night for example i was 4.2 at 1930 so had 10cps in Nandos and took 10-2 qa. Two hours later i had a two fingered kit kat and took 1 cp of qa. I didn&#x27;t do my suagrs at this stage. Then at 2220 i was 2.3 and took 1cp of quick acting. I took my BI at this time. Then at 2310 i was 3.6 so had 1.5 cp (slice of brown toast). At 0030 i was 4.3 so went to sleep. Got up at 0630 and was 8.8. At 0830 having my breakfast i was 11.9 so had 4.5 cps and took my qa ration 1.5/1 + 1 qa adjustment. Will see how i fair out for the rest of the day.

Many thanks again.

Great that you reduced your QA for your Nandos as your BG was below target
But at 22.20 you were hypo and you need AT LEAST 1.5 CPs to treat this which might explain why you were still low at 23.10.

It's a lesson for everyone not to get complacent about low readings and treatment of hypos, especially as there are increased chances of having driving licences revoked if you develop hypo unawareness or have severe hypos.

Yes until DAFNE i would have been lax about the driving rules etc with regards to BG levels.

Aug 23, 2013

Carolin 83 posts

Topic: General Discussion / Background insulin (BI)

Rafa said:
Many thanks for the replies. No stupidly i didn't treat any of them. Crazy really. Will try again tonight to get into range nad do a 3am. I have all my recordings etc recorded so will wait until Monday and post my last weeks readings to see what people think. Last night for example i was 4.2 at 1930 so had 10cps in Nandos and took 10-2 qa. Two hours later i had a two fingered kit kat and took 1 cp of qa. I didn't do my suagrs at this stage. Then at 2220 i was 2.3 and took 1cp of quick acting. I took my BI at this time. Then at 2310 i was 3.6 so had 1.5 cp (slice of brown toast). At 0030 i was 4.3 so went to sleep. Got up at 0630 and was 8.8. At 0830 having my breakfast i was 11.9 so had 4.5 cps and took my qa ration 1.5/1 + 1 qa adjustment. Will see how i fair out for the rest of the day.

Many thanks again.

Great that you reduced your QA for your Nandos as your BG was below target Smile

But at 22.20 you were hypo and you need AT LEAST 1.5 CPs to treat this which might explain why you were still low at 23.10.

It's a lesson for everyone not to get complacent about low readings and treatment of hypos, especially as there are increased chances of having driving licences revoked if you develop hypo unawareness or have severe hypos.

Aug 23, 2013

Rafa 99 posts

Topic: General Discussion / Background insulin (BI)

Carolin said:
Rafa said:
Thanks Carolin. Struggling myself but am really trying to get it right. So if i took my BI at 6 in the morning and then between 10-11 in the evening it shouldn&#x27;t be a major problem?

That's perfect as it'll give you 7 - 8 hrs in between night and morning doses

Great thanks Smile

Aug 23, 2013

Rafa 99 posts

Topic: General Discussion / Background insulin (BI)

novorapidboi26 said:
nothing to add to Carolin's response, although I am unclear about the 'of which sugars' bit when your counting carbs.....

you need to count the total carbs and just ignore the 'of which sugars' bit..........

Sorry i got mixed up with that bit. On DAFNE they told me not to count the carbs in beans when they had no added sugars but it wasn't beans i ate last night so i got mixed up but as it turns out i did count the spaghetti! Appreciate all the replies.

Aug 23, 2013

Rafa 99 posts

Topic: General Discussion / Background insulin (BI)

Carolin said:
Rafa said:
Thanks. Sorry yes did the overnight on Wednesday. I was 4.1 going to bed at 10pm and at 3am i was 3.4 then at 6am 2.5. I had had 8 cps for my dinner at 1950 with BG 4.8. Nearly sure now i took 2 qa that i shouldn&#x27;t have because i counted weight watchers spaghetti as 2 when i should have just counted the of which sugars which would have been zero.

Hi Rafa.

A couple of points:
1. I'm sure you would need to count the total carbs in the Weight Watchers spaghetti, not just the of which sugars.
2. It's not a great idea to test out your BI when you're going to bed on a BG that's below target - at 4.1mmol/l you're nearly 2.5mmol/l below which is unsafe to go to bed on. Did you have any CPs then to get into target?.
3. Did you treat the BG of 3.4mmol/l at 3am? This is a hypo. You were still hypo at 6am and this is worrying because running BG like this will affect your ability to recognise hypos.

Please be careful not to accept BG results that are below 4.5mmol/l and remember:
BG 3.5 or below............ TREAT as a hypo with 1.5 - 2 CPs rapid acting carbs
BG between 3.5 - 4.5......EAT CPs to get back into target

Carolin

Hi Carolin,

Many thanks for the replies. No stupidly i didn't treat any of them. Crazy really. Will try again tonight to get into range nad do a 3am. I have all my recordings etc recorded so will wait until Monday and post my last weeks readings to see what people think. Last night for example i was 4.2 at 1930 so had 10cps in Nandos and took 10-2 qa. Two hours later i had a two fingered kit kat and took 1 cp of qa. I didn't do my suagrs at this stage. Then at 2220 i was 2.3 and took 1cp of quick acting. I took my BI at this time. Then at 2310 i was 3.6 so had 1.5 cp (slice of brown toast). At 0030 i was 4.3 so went to sleep. Got up at 0630 and was 8.8. At 0830 having my breakfast i was 11.9 so had 4.5 cps and took my qa ration 1.5/1 + 1 qa adjustment. Will see how i fair out for the rest of the day.

Many thanks again.

Aug 23, 2013

novorapidboi26 1,819 posts

Topic: General Discussion / Background insulin (BI)

nothing to add to Carolin's response, although I am unclear about the 'of which sugars' bit when your counting carbs.....

you need to count the total carbs and just ignore the 'of which sugars' bit..........

Aug 23, 2013

Carolin 83 posts

Topic: General Discussion / Background insulin (BI)

Rafa said:
Thanks Carolin. Struggling myself but am really trying to get it right. So if i took my BI at 6 in the morning and then between 10-11 in the evening it shouldn't be a major problem?

That's perfect as it'll give you 7 - 8 hrs in between night and morning doses
Smile

Aug 23, 2013

Carolin 83 posts

Topic: General Discussion / Background insulin (BI)

Rafa said:
Thanks. Sorry yes did the overnight on Wednesday. I was 4.1 going to bed at 10pm and at 3am i was 3.4 then at 6am 2.5. I had had 8 cps for my dinner at 1950 with BG 4.8. Nearly sure now i took 2 qa that i shouldn't have because i counted weight watchers spaghetti as 2 when i should have just counted the of which sugars which would have been zero.

Hi Rafa.

A couple of points:
1. I'm sure you would need to count the total carbs in the Weight Watchers spaghetti, not just the of which sugars.
2. It's not a great idea to test out your BI when you're going to bed on a BG that's below target - at 4.1mmol/l you're nearly 2.5mmol/l below which is unsafe to go to bed on. Did you have any CPs then to get into target?.
3. Did you treat the BG of 3.4mmol/l at 3am? This is a hypo. You were still hypo at 6am and this is worrying because running BG like this will affect your ability to recognise hypos.

Please be careful not to accept BG results that are below 4.5mmol/l and remember:
BG 3.5 or below............ TREAT as a hypo with 1.5 - 2 CPs rapid acting carbs
BG between 3.5 - 4.5......EAT CPs to get back into target

Carolin

Aug 23, 2013

Rafa 99 posts

Topic: General Discussion / Background insulin (BI)

novorapidboi26 said:
It will most likely help you in the morning due to the overlap.....

have you managed an overnight test of your Levemir yet?

Thanks. Sorry yes did the overnight on Wednesday. I was 4.1 going to bed at 10pm and at 3am i was 3.4 then at 6am 2.5. I had had 8 cps for my dinner at 1950 with BG 4.8. Nearly sure now i took 2 qa that i shouldn't have because i counted weight watchers spaghetti as 2 when i should have just counted the of which sugars which would have been zero.

Aug 23, 2013

novorapidboi26 1,819 posts

Topic: General Discussion / Operations/ Healing

hope your back to normal soon....... Very Happy


Aug 29, 2013 Rafa 99 posts	Topic: Questions for HCPs / Blood Glucose in the morning novorapidboi26 said: That's really good numbers.....for me they would be anyway, all pretty close to each other too......... a wee tweak to timing or dose may even bring you down lower........ well done........ Thanks. Delighted to be honest. Lets just say it's a long time since i can remember readings like them in the morning! Just have to keep on top of it now.

Aug 29, 2013 novorapidboi26 1,819 posts	Topic: Questions for HCPs / Blood Glucose in the morning That's really good numbers.....for me they would be anyway, all pretty close to each other too......... a wee tweak to timing or dose may even bring you down lower........ well done........

Aug 29, 2013 Rafa 99 posts	Topic: Questions for HCPs / High Bloods I noticed today at lunch i was 4.7 and had 9 cps but because i am going for a run after work i just took 7 untis of aq. This was at 1.25pm and then just there at 3.35pm i was 18.4. Now normally mid afternoon i would be between 11-13 but when i would have my dinner at 7-7.30pm i would be within range. I ate 2 cps there and took 2 qa for it and a +2 because i was afraid the lunch time qa did not go into me. Didn't want to be getting ready for the runa nd find i was 18. Any opinions please?

Aug 29, 2013 Rafa 99 posts	Topic: Questions for HCPs / Blood Glucose in the morning Since i increased my BI on Sunday night to 16 from 15 and started taking my BI before bed and when i get up at 6am my readings at 6am in the morning have been as follows, 8.2 Monday, 6.4 Tuesday, 6.8 Wednesday and 7.2 this morning.

Aug 27, 2013 marke 686 posts	Topic: Questions for HCPs / ACCURATE BG READINGS The 'warwick' part was my understanding of the Diabetes Experiment book i.e generally your body will only breakdown protein to glucose if it has no other option i.e no carbs to convert. I believe that protein conversion is also slower than standard carb conversion i.e like a low GI food. I think it is excluded from DAFNE because it is too complex an area for most people to try to get their heads round especially as a lot of people may have just been introduced to catb counting and a lot of other new ideas.

Aug 25, 2013 mum2westiesGill 502 posts	Topic: General Discussion / Increase of Lantus/BI First 2 days back home but 24/08 involves going to a wedding blessing/reception

Aug 25, 2013 mum2westiesGill 502 posts	Topic: General Discussion / Increase of Lantus/BI Last 5 days of hols, abroad, Lanzarote. Readings are so far all taken from meter with no meals/comments entered. Please comment

Aug 25, 2013 mum2westiesGill 502 posts	Topic: General Discussion / Increase of Lantus/BI First 5 days of hols, abroad, Lanzarote. Readings are so far all taken from meter with no meals/comments entered. Please comment

Aug 25, 2013 mum2westiesGill 502 posts	Topic: General Discussion / Increase of Lantus/BI Last 2 days before going on hols

Aug 24, 2013 JayBee 587 posts	Topic: Questions for HCPs / ACCURATE BG READINGS marke said: Jwo can you explain why you think Protein affects blood glucose ? Some references etc, I'm not sure I agree with your statement. The reason DAFNE ( not just the UK as far as I am aware) do not count Protein is it is a very complex area that is not straightforward. This is why I am cautious about stating it as a 'fact'. I currently count protein myself. To be exact: Add up total protein; if it is over 20g, that book (by a lady called Ginger) mentioned on the Experiment 1 thread directs to minus 20 from that and then divide the total by 2. A lot of my BGs have started making a lot more sense since doing this. I had hit a wall with working out my doses before starting to try it. Further along however, Warwick has enlightened me to another approach but I have not applied it myself yet. If needed, I can try to find it in my long running help thread found in the HCP section of the forums since I cannot remember exactly what was given as direction (something about if only eating proteins then take insulin but if with carbs then don't, but I might be remembering wrong). Edit: Found it, it's on Page 17 of my thread. To quote: Warwick said: 2) Protein - Gary believes that protein does raise BGLs but only if no carb is consumed with it. So if you consume carbs and protein, don't worry about the protein portion, but if it is a carb-free meal with protein, then treat the protein as being half carb, and dose for it. E.g. if you have 30g of protein and no carb, then take QA as if you had had 15g carb. Seems to be a few ideas bouncing around. :S

Aug 24, 2013 SueB 3 posts	Topic: Questions for HCPs / Centrizine Hydrochloride and an affect on insulin sensitivity I have been taking ceterizine continuously for many years as have chronic rhinitis (basically a dust allergy that causes a constant runny nose if don't take anything). My ratios are stable at 1:1.5. Maybe the effect is noticeable as you only took for a short time and I have been taking so long any effect on me is my normal.

Aug 23, 2013 marke 686 posts	Topic: Questions for HCPs / Centrizine Hydrochloride and an affect on insulin sensitivity can't say I have ever noticed this effect. I used to take truck loads of Cetirizine and never really had any side effects, however we are obviously all different and what happens to me may not happen to you and vice-versa. Its not a published side-effect of the drug, but for most drugs the published side-effects are those widely observed in a number of people not individuals.

Aug 23, 2013 Garry 328 posts	Topic: Questions for HCPs / Centrizine Hydrochloride and an affect on insulin sensitivity Took an anti histamine tablet a day, for 5 days, after being bitten on the leg, by a fly in the garden. Big itch driving me crackers and some swelling which I was concerned about. Insulin resistant and normally have to use QA ratios of 2:1 or 2.5:1 and 2:1 with meals but found I needed to knock the dinner ratio back particularly to 1.5:1. Has anyone else noticed this? Maybe I am erroneously connecting two things here. Would appreciate help from HCPs or another forum user who may use these tablets on a more regular basis. Regards Garry

Aug 23, 2013 Rafa 99 posts	Topic: General Discussion / Background insulin (BI) Carolin said: Rafa said: Many thanks for the replies. No stupidly i didn&#x27;t treat any of them. Crazy really. Will try again tonight to get into range nad do a 3am. I have all my recordings etc recorded so will wait until Monday and post my last weeks readings to see what people think. Last night for example i was 4.2 at 1930 so had 10cps in Nandos and took 10-2 qa. Two hours later i had a two fingered kit kat and took 1 cp of qa. I didn&#x27;t do my suagrs at this stage. Then at 2220 i was 2.3 and took 1cp of quick acting. I took my BI at this time. Then at 2310 i was 3.6 so had 1.5 cp (slice of brown toast). At 0030 i was 4.3 so went to sleep. Got up at 0630 and was 8.8. At 0830 having my breakfast i was 11.9 so had 4.5 cps and took my qa ration 1.5/1 + 1 qa adjustment. Will see how i fair out for the rest of the day. Many thanks again. Great that you reduced your QA for your Nandos as your BG was below target But at 22.20 you were hypo and you need AT LEAST 1.5 CPs to treat this which might explain why you were still low at 23.10. It's a lesson for everyone not to get complacent about low readings and treatment of hypos, especially as there are increased chances of having driving licences revoked if you develop hypo unawareness or have severe hypos. Yes until DAFNE i would have been lax about the driving rules etc with regards to BG levels.

Aug 23, 2013 Carolin 83 posts	Topic: General Discussion / Background insulin (BI) Rafa said: Many thanks for the replies. No stupidly i didn't treat any of them. Crazy really. Will try again tonight to get into range nad do a 3am. I have all my recordings etc recorded so will wait until Monday and post my last weeks readings to see what people think. Last night for example i was 4.2 at 1930 so had 10cps in Nandos and took 10-2 qa. Two hours later i had a two fingered kit kat and took 1 cp of qa. I didn't do my suagrs at this stage. Then at 2220 i was 2.3 and took 1cp of quick acting. I took my BI at this time. Then at 2310 i was 3.6 so had 1.5 cp (slice of brown toast). At 0030 i was 4.3 so went to sleep. Got up at 0630 and was 8.8. At 0830 having my breakfast i was 11.9 so had 4.5 cps and took my qa ration 1.5/1 + 1 qa adjustment. Will see how i fair out for the rest of the day. Many thanks again. Great that you reduced your QA for your Nandos as your BG was below target But at 22.20 you were hypo and you need AT LEAST 1.5 CPs to treat this which might explain why you were still low at 23.10. It's a lesson for everyone not to get complacent about low readings and treatment of hypos, especially as there are increased chances of having driving licences revoked if you develop hypo unawareness or have severe hypos.

Aug 23, 2013 Rafa 99 posts	Topic: General Discussion / Background insulin (BI) Carolin said: Rafa said: Thanks Carolin. Struggling myself but am really trying to get it right. So if i took my BI at 6 in the morning and then between 10-11 in the evening it shouldn&#x27;t be a major problem? That's perfect as it'll give you 7 - 8 hrs in between night and morning doses Great thanks

Aug 23, 2013 Rafa 99 posts	Topic: General Discussion / Background insulin (BI) novorapidboi26 said: nothing to add to Carolin's response, although I am unclear about the 'of which sugars' bit when your counting carbs..... you need to count the total carbs and just ignore the 'of which sugars' bit.......... Sorry i got mixed up with that bit. On DAFNE they told me not to count the carbs in beans when they had no added sugars but it wasn't beans i ate last night so i got mixed up but as it turns out i did count the spaghetti! Appreciate all the replies.

Aug 23, 2013 Rafa 99 posts	Topic: General Discussion / Background insulin (BI) Carolin said: Rafa said: Thanks. Sorry yes did the overnight on Wednesday. I was 4.1 going to bed at 10pm and at 3am i was 3.4 then at 6am 2.5. I had had 8 cps for my dinner at 1950 with BG 4.8. Nearly sure now i took 2 qa that i shouldn&#x27;t have because i counted weight watchers spaghetti as 2 when i should have just counted the of which sugars which would have been zero. Hi Rafa. A couple of points: 1. I'm sure you would need to count the total carbs in the Weight Watchers spaghetti, not just the of which sugars. 2. It's not a great idea to test out your BI when you're going to bed on a BG that's below target - at 4.1mmol/l you're nearly 2.5mmol/l below which is unsafe to go to bed on. Did you have any CPs then to get into target?. 3. Did you treat the BG of 3.4mmol/l at 3am? This is a hypo. You were still hypo at 6am and this is worrying because running BG like this will affect your ability to recognise hypos. Please be careful not to accept BG results that are below 4.5mmol/l and remember: BG 3.5 or below............ TREAT as a hypo with 1.5 - 2 CPs rapid acting carbs BG between 3.5 - 4.5......EAT CPs to get back into target Carolin Hi Carolin, Many thanks for the replies. No stupidly i didn't treat any of them. Crazy really. Will try again tonight to get into range nad do a 3am. I have all my recordings etc recorded so will wait until Monday and post my last weeks readings to see what people think. Last night for example i was 4.2 at 1930 so had 10cps in Nandos and took 10-2 qa. Two hours later i had a two fingered kit kat and took 1 cp of qa. I didn't do my suagrs at this stage. Then at 2220 i was 2.3 and took 1cp of quick acting. I took my BI at this time. Then at 2310 i was 3.6 so had 1.5 cp (slice of brown toast). At 0030 i was 4.3 so went to sleep. Got up at 0630 and was 8.8. At 0830 having my breakfast i was 11.9 so had 4.5 cps and took my qa ration 1.5/1 + 1 qa adjustment. Will see how i fair out for the rest of the day. Many thanks again.

Aug 23, 2013 novorapidboi26 1,819 posts	Topic: General Discussion / Background insulin (BI) nothing to add to Carolin's response, although I am unclear about the 'of which sugars' bit when your counting carbs..... you need to count the total carbs and just ignore the 'of which sugars' bit..........

Aug 23, 2013 Carolin 83 posts	Topic: General Discussion / Background insulin (BI) Rafa said: Thanks Carolin. Struggling myself but am really trying to get it right. So if i took my BI at 6 in the morning and then between 10-11 in the evening it shouldn't be a major problem? That's perfect as it'll give you 7 - 8 hrs in between night and morning doses

Aug 23, 2013 Carolin 83 posts	Topic: General Discussion / Background insulin (BI) Rafa said: Thanks. Sorry yes did the overnight on Wednesday. I was 4.1 going to bed at 10pm and at 3am i was 3.4 then at 6am 2.5. I had had 8 cps for my dinner at 1950 with BG 4.8. Nearly sure now i took 2 qa that i shouldn't have because i counted weight watchers spaghetti as 2 when i should have just counted the of which sugars which would have been zero. Hi Rafa. A couple of points: 1. I'm sure you would need to count the total carbs in the Weight Watchers spaghetti, not just the of which sugars. 2. It's not a great idea to test out your BI when you're going to bed on a BG that's below target - at 4.1mmol/l you're nearly 2.5mmol/l below which is unsafe to go to bed on. Did you have any CPs then to get into target?. 3. Did you treat the BG of 3.4mmol/l at 3am? This is a hypo. You were still hypo at 6am and this is worrying because running BG like this will affect your ability to recognise hypos. Please be careful not to accept BG results that are below 4.5mmol/l and remember: BG 3.5 or below............ TREAT as a hypo with 1.5 - 2 CPs rapid acting carbs BG between 3.5 - 4.5......EAT CPs to get back into target Carolin

Aug 23, 2013 Rafa 99 posts	Topic: General Discussion / Background insulin (BI) novorapidboi26 said: It will most likely help you in the morning due to the overlap..... have you managed an overnight test of your Levemir yet? Thanks. Sorry yes did the overnight on Wednesday. I was 4.1 going to bed at 10pm and at 3am i was 3.4 then at 6am 2.5. I had had 8 cps for my dinner at 1950 with BG 4.8. Nearly sure now i took 2 qa that i shouldn't have because i counted weight watchers spaghetti as 2 when i should have just counted the of which sugars which would have been zero.

Aug 23, 2013 novorapidboi26 1,819 posts	Topic: General Discussion / Operations/ Healing hope your back to normal soon.......