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Aug 23, 2010

Karl 83 posts

Topic: Carbohydrate Counting / Iphone Apps

Driving target is also wrong 4.5 as the online one was

Aug 23, 2010

Brien Molloy 4 posts

Topic: General Discussion / What do you carry your diabetes stuff in?

I use pen plus case got it from artic medical with cooler pouch quite handy

Aug 23, 2010

Brien Molloy 4 posts

Topic: Carbohydrate Counting / Iphone Apps

Great stuff Simon on the App have posted comment on itunes regarding some issues I forgot to mention that it always defaults to breakfast when inputting data could this be worked off time settings. I have been using diabetes diary very good app and much easier to input figures through keyboard / wheel click have a look. Well done good to see progress being made.

Aug 23, 2010

graham burton 14 posts

Topic: General Discussion / New European Commission directive affecting drivers with diabetes

i read in the balance sometime ago about this and thought it may be interesting for all in this forum

here is the link

http://www.diabetes.org.uk/About_us/News_Landing_Page/New-European-Commission-directive-affecting-drivers-with-diabetes/

Aug 23, 2010

novorapidboi26 1,819 posts

Topic: General Discussion / Any pumpers??????

Just out of curiosity, Is there any DAFNE graduate pumpers out there.......???

Would love to hear some stories on when you got your pump, how its effected your control and ultimately how DAFNE fits in to the regime........

Aug 23, 2010

novorapidboi26 1,819 posts

Topic: General Discussion / Drinking

The carb section and dafne book give the carb content for most drink, any additional not so common tipples can also be added by the users

Aug 23, 2010

caroline15 45 posts

Topic: General Discussion / Dawn Phenomenon

Well, I've tried it for a week at home and my highest waking blood was 8.8, it used to get as high as 18 before so it does seem to be helping. I'm just having one or two pernod and diet cokes (lovely) before bed.

I'm hoping it has a good effect on my hba1c as that is 8.7 but I am normally well controlled during waking hours.

Aug 23, 2010

Garry 328 posts

Topic: General Discussion / Drinking

I think it would help if we could press the Food Agency into providing appropriate labelling of carbohydrate content on alcoholic drinks as provided on other foods.

Labelling always gives you %age Alcohol By Volume which is useful to most but does not meet our specific needs.

I remember years ago when Holsten Diat Pils was launched in the UK that it carried carbohydrate information back then, but I've never bought it for many years so I don't know the current situation.

Have never seen any CP values given on wine labelling.
As it comes from all over the world it may be hard to get any interest in any inititive.
Must admit that I almost always drink dry wines and have over the years come to neglect any potential CP involved. On rare occasions when drinking desert wines I am always careful to guess! and add some CP into my calculation.

So why don't we press to get this listening goverment to meet our needs. We could get a petition together over the net and with strong support may be able to change drinks labelling.

Aug 23, 2010

novorapidboi26 1,819 posts

Topic: Site Development / Forum improvments

As Simon says..........(thats sounds familiar)....

Most well known browsers offer this facility, however, as long as I am still in session the site remembers me even if I come away from the site and return later.........

Aug 23, 2010

marke 681 posts

Topic: Site Development / Forum improvments

hi, bit late on this one sorry, but as the 'cynic' that sits on Simons shoulder in the development team I have to say 'remember' me functions are a bad thing and I would recommend you never use them. I would not implement one on the site due to security considerations. I'm sure it sounds far fectched to those not directly involved with the IT industry and secuirty but ANY information disclosed by you is a weapon for the bad guys. If we remember your login and someone else gains access to your account they could obtain personnal details about you. Add these to stuff they find about you on other sites ( especially if you 'remember' your logins) and it could be enough to forge a credit card application or scam someone that they are you.
Most of us think that just happens to others and won't happen to me, it CAN happen to you and when it does its too late to get back all the information you have put on facebook/twitter etc. Sorry but account security ranks above convenience for me.

Aug 23, 2010

novorapidboi26 1,819 posts

Topic: General Discussion / Drinking

I agree with mark2, it does depend on the wine, but most normal wines, red and white, dont have any significant effect on your blood, apart from later when the livers glucose releasing function is impaired........

You may want to consider the food you had for dinner, assuming it was in the evening....

If it was a high carb meal your sugars may have spiked...........also the length of time from drinking to actually going to bed would be relevant...........

Again, as mark2 says, the effects on people are different, so its really a trial and error excercise when drinking.............

Aug 23, 2010

novorapidboi26 1,819 posts

Topic: Questions for HCPs / dawn phenomenon... how to stop the rise?

Hi there stacy.....welcome to the forum......

I too suffer from dawn phenomonon and always wake up with double figures apart from once in a blue moon when I am on target with no apparent reason......

As you may have been told already 'dawn' is simply just a natural hormonal response which triggers the releas of glucose from our livers in the morning to assist in getting us up and ready.

All I have simply done is experimented with different background insulins, as well as time of dose to try and get the numbers down......

Sometimes a dose of Quick Acting insulin to cover a pre bed snack together with your background can help as its dual action, I find that if its toast or something similar then I will wake higher than normal as its released too slowly for the quick acting to catch, so something released fairly quickly or with a low GI is good.......thats just me though..

I am now on Humilin I as my background as it has a peak in it, unlike Lantus and Levemir...

I couldnt confidently say it has had an effect but it seems to keep me down to about 11 and 12 in the mornings.......

Its really all about experimenting with your doses and trying to trick your body in some ways to minimise the glucose dump......I have had no real success.......

I can assume your backgound is correct at this point?

For me its not having an effect on my HbA1c at the moment, and as long as it keeps getting better I can live with it.....

But as you say rising with high readings does make you feel rubbish and tired........

My conclusions are to initially try upping your BI dose if you havnt already and consider consulting with your team about different insulins to take advantage of the different onset, peaks and durations, as well as having a snack before bed so you have some quick acting working as well.........

In the end you may never come down, and if it is effecting your daily activity and pushing your HbA1c up then the only thing left to try is a pump..........they have been proven quite effevtive in tackling 'dawn' due to the ability to increase the dose of BI automatically whilst you sleep.........

Sorry for going on for so long..........

Keep us all posted

Aug 22, 2010

graham burton 14 posts

Topic: General Discussion / At the football

all the replys are good ones just do it where you are, but sometimes i like to go and do it just some where else and the mens toliets are not a good place as they are dirty.

so i have a radar key cost no more than Â£4.00 and you can get them form ost disability shops or mobility shops as than you can go into the disable toliets as they are much cleaner than the main toliets.

Aug 22, 2010

graham burton 14 posts

Topic: General Discussion / 4mm needles

i was on 8mm and gone down to 5mm much better. did not know they went to 4mm

Aug 22, 2010

PNThompson 57 posts

Topic: General Discussion / What do you carry your diabetes stuff in?

I keep the pen, with several needles in the case it comes with, my BG machine in its own case and general carry it all in a rucksack or type of briefcase (for work).
The only other things I carry is the DAFNE Carb book, Jelly babies and glucose tabs all in what bag i'm using.
Paul

Aug 22, 2010

Mazbrown 3 posts

Topic: General Discussion / What do you carry your diabetes stuff in?

The wife's bag if I'm in the good books. Otherwise, as already mentioned, I use an old pencil case.

Aug 21, 2010

Mazbrown 3 posts

Topic: General Discussion / 4mm needles

I understand these are designed to deliver your doses into fatty tissue as opposed to muscle tissue which lies deeper. Up until recently I used 10mm. Yes 10. I'm now on 8 which seem really short so will have to discuss going shorter still with my GP at next consultation.

Aug 21, 2010

Mazbrown 3 posts

Topic: General Discussion / Drinking

Hello.

I've also been led to believe the same Claire. Although in my case it's not wine but bitter. Less of the little finger and more of the big belly. Haha!

Aug 21, 2010

stacyedgington 5 posts

Topic: Questions for HCPs / dawn phenomenon... how to stop the rise?

I have recently finished the DAFNE course (which of course was very helpful) but I have been struggling for a few weeks with having extremely high blood glucose levels when I wake up. Literally every day they are above 20 when I wake. For instance; yesterday, I went to bed with a level of 6.5 after having a hypo an hour earlier and treating it exactly as told. I woke myself at 2am and my sugars were 6.4... but this morning, when I woke, it was 24.3 !? I am pretty sure I am suffering from dawn phenomenon as it was mentioned by the trainers when we were discussing my glucose levels in morning sessions, but I wasnt told if/how it can be stopped? obviously waking up with blood glucose levels of +20mmol is causing problems- i feel rubbish!
Any advice on how to / if i can prevent it other then correcting with my breakfast pleeeease reply!

thankyou!

stacy x

Aug 21, 2010

claireadams 12 posts

Topic: General Discussion / Drinking

Hi Maura,

I was told not to test my bg after a few glasses of wine because initially it'll go sky high... but by the morning you may of gone hypo ... maybe best if poss to do a 3am test and then first thing in the morning. A lot of people test their bg after a few hours of drinking and then take QA to correct only to find they are dangerously low by the morning. I wouldnt correct with insulin until the morning.
Hope this helps

Aug 21, 2010

Derek Brown 32 posts

Topic: General Discussion / At the football

Thanks everybody for the encouraging replies and I will just carry on and inject where and when I need to.

It probably is just me because I do exactly that whenever I'm out and about doing whatever, I just had it in my mind that the footie would be a different thing. But it's not Smile

Aug 21, 2010

Nat 30 posts

Topic: General Discussion / Drinking

As they say that wine reduces your BG do you think perhaps you could have gone lower than you thought whilst drinking and dipped slightly into a hypo and your body sorted itself out hence the higher reading?

Aug 21, 2010

Mark2 23 posts

Topic: General Discussion / Drinking

Depends on the wine. Sweet wines do put the sugar up slightly in themselves, but dry wine not so much.

The effect of the Alcohol itself varies with different people, apparently. For me if I have a lot to drink (I mean 12 units or so) I do get a rise, but its about 4 or 5 hours later I guess when I am processing all the alcohol.

Aug 21, 2010

Simon 578 posts

Topic: Carbohydrate Counting / Iphone Apps

On Mark2's comment - couldn't agree more. The carbs list is available for free on the site, and at the end of the DAFNE course in paper form, we're just trying to make it as accessible as possible for everyone. Hopefully we can resolve this and make it free to all, we'll keep you posted.

Aug 21, 2010

Simon 578 posts

Topic: Site Development / DAFNE Online iPhone application - help with content/design needed

Hi all, you can now get the DAFNE Online iPhone app from the App store. Search for 'DAFNE' on the store or click this link.

As always, let us know via the forums or contact us section if there is anything you would like adding to the app, or if you find any bugs in it.

Simon

Aug 23, 2010 Karl 83 posts	Topic: Carbohydrate Counting / Iphone Apps Driving target is also wrong 4.5 as the online one was

Aug 23, 2010 Brien Molloy 4 posts	Topic: General Discussion / What do you carry your diabetes stuff in? I use pen plus case got it from artic medical with cooler pouch quite handy

Aug 23, 2010 Brien Molloy 4 posts	Topic: Carbohydrate Counting / Iphone Apps Great stuff Simon on the App have posted comment on itunes regarding some issues I forgot to mention that it always defaults to breakfast when inputting data could this be worked off time settings. I have been using diabetes diary very good app and much easier to input figures through keyboard / wheel click have a look. Well done good to see progress being made.

Aug 23, 2010 graham burton 14 posts	Topic: General Discussion / New European Commission directive affecting drivers with diabetes i read in the balance sometime ago about this and thought it may be interesting for all in this forum here is the link http://www.diabetes.org.uk/About_us/News_Landing_Page/New-European-Commission-directive-affecting-drivers-with-diabetes/

Aug 23, 2010 novorapidboi26 1,819 posts	Topic: General Discussion / Any pumpers?????? Just out of curiosity, Is there any DAFNE graduate pumpers out there.......??? Would love to hear some stories on when you got your pump, how its effected your control and ultimately how DAFNE fits in to the regime........

Aug 23, 2010 novorapidboi26 1,819 posts	Topic: General Discussion / Drinking The carb section and dafne book give the carb content for most drink, any additional not so common tipples can also be added by the users

Aug 23, 2010 caroline15 45 posts	Topic: General Discussion / Dawn Phenomenon Well, I've tried it for a week at home and my highest waking blood was 8.8, it used to get as high as 18 before so it does seem to be helping. I'm just having one or two pernod and diet cokes (lovely) before bed. I'm hoping it has a good effect on my hba1c as that is 8.7 but I am normally well controlled during waking hours.

Aug 23, 2010 Garry 328 posts	Topic: General Discussion / Drinking I think it would help if we could press the Food Agency into providing appropriate labelling of carbohydrate content on alcoholic drinks as provided on other foods. Labelling always gives you %age Alcohol By Volume which is useful to most but does not meet our specific needs. I remember years ago when Holsten Diat Pils was launched in the UK that it carried carbohydrate information back then, but I've never bought it for many years so I don't know the current situation. Have never seen any CP values given on wine labelling. As it comes from all over the world it may be hard to get any interest in any inititive. Must admit that I almost always drink dry wines and have over the years come to neglect any potential CP involved. On rare occasions when drinking desert wines I am always careful to guess! and add some CP into my calculation. So why don't we press to get this listening goverment to meet our needs. We could get a petition together over the net and with strong support may be able to change drinks labelling.

Aug 23, 2010 novorapidboi26 1,819 posts	Topic: Site Development / Forum improvments As Simon says..........(thats sounds familiar).... Most well known browsers offer this facility, however, as long as I am still in session the site remembers me even if I come away from the site and return later.........

Aug 23, 2010 marke 681 posts	Topic: Site Development / Forum improvments hi, bit late on this one sorry, but as the 'cynic' that sits on Simons shoulder in the development team I have to say 'remember' me functions are a bad thing and I would recommend you never use them. I would not implement one on the site due to security considerations. I'm sure it sounds far fectched to those not directly involved with the IT industry and secuirty but ANY information disclosed by you is a weapon for the bad guys. If we remember your login and someone else gains access to your account they could obtain personnal details about you. Add these to stuff they find about you on other sites ( especially if you 'remember' your logins) and it could be enough to forge a credit card application or scam someone that they are you. Most of us think that just happens to others and won't happen to me, it CAN happen to you and when it does its too late to get back all the information you have put on facebook/twitter etc. Sorry but account security ranks above convenience for me.

Aug 23, 2010 novorapidboi26 1,819 posts	Topic: General Discussion / Drinking I agree with mark2, it does depend on the wine, but most normal wines, red and white, dont have any significant effect on your blood, apart from later when the livers glucose releasing function is impaired........ You may want to consider the food you had for dinner, assuming it was in the evening.... If it was a high carb meal your sugars may have spiked...........also the length of time from drinking to actually going to bed would be relevant........... Again, as mark2 says, the effects on people are different, so its really a trial and error excercise when drinking.............

Aug 23, 2010 novorapidboi26 1,819 posts	Topic: Questions for HCPs / dawn phenomenon... how to stop the rise? Hi there stacy.....welcome to the forum...... I too suffer from dawn phenomonon and always wake up with double figures apart from once in a blue moon when I am on target with no apparent reason...... As you may have been told already 'dawn' is simply just a natural hormonal response which triggers the releas of glucose from our livers in the morning to assist in getting us up and ready. All I have simply done is experimented with different background insulins, as well as time of dose to try and get the numbers down...... Sometimes a dose of Quick Acting insulin to cover a pre bed snack together with your background can help as its dual action, I find that if its toast or something similar then I will wake higher than normal as its released too slowly for the quick acting to catch, so something released fairly quickly or with a low GI is good.......thats just me though.. I am now on Humilin I as my background as it has a peak in it, unlike Lantus and Levemir... I couldnt confidently say it has had an effect but it seems to keep me down to about 11 and 12 in the mornings....... Its really all about experimenting with your doses and trying to trick your body in some ways to minimise the glucose dump......I have had no real success....... I can assume your backgound is correct at this point? For me its not having an effect on my HbA1c at the moment, and as long as it keeps getting better I can live with it..... But as you say rising with high readings does make you feel rubbish and tired........ My conclusions are to initially try upping your BI dose if you havnt already and consider consulting with your team about different insulins to take advantage of the different onset, peaks and durations, as well as having a snack before bed so you have some quick acting working as well......... In the end you may never come down, and if it is effecting your daily activity and pushing your HbA1c up then the only thing left to try is a pump..........they have been proven quite effevtive in tackling 'dawn' due to the ability to increase the dose of BI automatically whilst you sleep......... Sorry for going on for so long.......... Keep us all posted

Aug 22, 2010 graham burton 14 posts	Topic: General Discussion / At the football all the replys are good ones just do it where you are, but sometimes i like to go and do it just some where else and the mens toliets are not a good place as they are dirty. so i have a radar key cost no more than Â£4.00 and you can get them form ost disability shops or mobility shops as than you can go into the disable toliets as they are much cleaner than the main toliets.

Aug 22, 2010 graham burton 14 posts	Topic: General Discussion / 4mm needles i was on 8mm and gone down to 5mm much better. did not know they went to 4mm

Aug 22, 2010 PNThompson 57 posts	Topic: General Discussion / What do you carry your diabetes stuff in? I keep the pen, with several needles in the case it comes with, my BG machine in its own case and general carry it all in a rucksack or type of briefcase (for work). The only other things I carry is the DAFNE Carb book, Jelly babies and glucose tabs all in what bag i'm using. Paul

Aug 22, 2010 Mazbrown 3 posts	Topic: General Discussion / What do you carry your diabetes stuff in? The wife's bag if I'm in the good books. Otherwise, as already mentioned, I use an old pencil case.

Aug 21, 2010 Mazbrown 3 posts	Topic: General Discussion / 4mm needles I understand these are designed to deliver your doses into fatty tissue as opposed to muscle tissue which lies deeper. Up until recently I used 10mm. Yes 10. I'm now on 8 which seem really short so will have to discuss going shorter still with my GP at next consultation.

Aug 21, 2010 Mazbrown 3 posts	Topic: General Discussion / Drinking Hello. I've also been led to believe the same Claire. Although in my case it's not wine but bitter. Less of the little finger and more of the big belly. Haha!

Aug 21, 2010 stacyedgington 5 posts	Topic: Questions for HCPs / dawn phenomenon... how to stop the rise? I have recently finished the DAFNE course (which of course was very helpful) but I have been struggling for a few weeks with having extremely high blood glucose levels when I wake up. Literally every day they are above 20 when I wake. For instance; yesterday, I went to bed with a level of 6.5 after having a hypo an hour earlier and treating it exactly as told. I woke myself at 2am and my sugars were 6.4... but this morning, when I woke, it was 24.3 !? I am pretty sure I am suffering from dawn phenomenon as it was mentioned by the trainers when we were discussing my glucose levels in morning sessions, but I wasnt told if/how it can be stopped? obviously waking up with blood glucose levels of +20mmol is causing problems- i feel rubbish! Any advice on how to / if i can prevent it other then correcting with my breakfast pleeeease reply! thankyou! stacy x

Aug 21, 2010 claireadams 12 posts	Topic: General Discussion / Drinking Hi Maura, I was told not to test my bg after a few glasses of wine because initially it'll go sky high... but by the morning you may of gone hypo ... maybe best if poss to do a 3am test and then first thing in the morning. A lot of people test their bg after a few hours of drinking and then take QA to correct only to find they are dangerously low by the morning. I wouldnt correct with insulin until the morning. Hope this helps

Aug 21, 2010 Derek Brown 32 posts	Topic: General Discussion / At the football Thanks everybody for the encouraging replies and I will just carry on and inject where and when I need to. It probably is just me because I do exactly that whenever I'm out and about doing whatever, I just had it in my mind that the footie would be a different thing. But it's not

Aug 21, 2010 Nat 30 posts	Topic: General Discussion / Drinking As they say that wine reduces your BG do you think perhaps you could have gone lower than you thought whilst drinking and dipped slightly into a hypo and your body sorted itself out hence the higher reading?

Aug 21, 2010 Mark2 23 posts	Topic: General Discussion / Drinking Depends on the wine. Sweet wines do put the sugar up slightly in themselves, but dry wine not so much. The effect of the Alcohol itself varies with different people, apparently. For me if I have a lot to drink (I mean 12 units or so) I do get a rise, but its about 4 or 5 hours later I guess when I am processing all the alcohol.

Aug 21, 2010 Simon 578 posts	Topic: Carbohydrate Counting / Iphone Apps On Mark2's comment - couldn't agree more. The carbs list is available for free on the site, and at the end of the DAFNE course in paper form, we're just trying to make it as accessible as possible for everyone. Hopefully we can resolve this and make it free to all, we'll keep you posted.

Aug 21, 2010 Simon 578 posts	Topic: Site Development / DAFNE Online iPhone application - help with content/design needed Hi all, you can now get the DAFNE Online iPhone app from the App store. Search for 'DAFNE' on the store or click this link. As always, let us know via the forums or contact us section if there is anything you would like adding to the app, or if you find any bugs in it. Simon