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Sep 1, 2011

John Syer 19 posts

Topic: DAFNE Online Mobile / Feedback from Android beta testing

KeithCl said:
But what problem you are hitting I'm not sure.

I worked out what the problem was, I was downloading via my WiFi connection at work, and the work proxy server had cached the original version I downloaded.
Once I tried again from home it worked a treat. Thwarted by technology once again ;-)

Regards, John

Sep 1, 2011

KeithCl 43 posts

Topic: DAFNE Online Mobile / Feedback from Android beta testing

John Syer said:

John,

I've just downloaded and installed again too and got the 1.3.r265. Just to be clear here this is a 2 step process: 1) use the browser on your phone to download the file; 2) click on the downloaded file to then be taken through the install or replace process.

But what problem you are hitting I'm not sure. To work around it I'll email you the file directly. Give me 15 mins.

Keith

Sep 1, 2011

Geofftrez 22 posts

Topic: DAFNE Online Mobile / Feedback from Android beta testing

I've got the new version from the download. Guess you did something silly John. Laughing

Sep 1, 2011

John Syer 19 posts

Topic: DAFNE Online Mobile / Feedback from Android beta testing

KeithCl said:
The "1.3.r265 BETA" is now available for download.

Hi Keith,

The version available on the site seems to be 1.0.r251 again.
I made sure that I cleared caches and even tried used a different machine to download it. Of course I'm willing to conceed that I've done something stupid.

Regards, John

Sep 1, 2011

Lizzie 87 posts

Topic: Carbohydrate Counting / Kendal Mint Cake

Does anyone know how many carbs are in this? It has nothing on the packaging to say. But during a recent holiday it seemed effective at treating hypos (nibbling a bit and guessing when to stop).

Aug 31, 2011

KeithCl 43 posts

Topic: DAFNE Online Mobile / Feedback from Android beta testing

The "1.3.r265 BETA" is now available for download. (The delay in posting was my fault.) It has these fixes in it:

6. Icons on the main screen no longer dimmed.
7. Values with a single decimal point are supported in the CP, QA and BI fields now as well as the BG field.
8. Previously entered comments are offered in an auto-complete list on the comment field after one character is entered.
9. The options menu has been re-arranged to make it a bit easier to jump into carb lists when editing a diary entry.
10. The BG average calculation has been corrected to ignore diary entries that have no BG value set.

and of course the earlier "1.1.r255 BETA" fixes are also there:

1. If in "Auto-Calculate QA" mode, update the QA value if either the CP value or the QA:CP value changes.
2. If the Type field is changed, always update the QA:CP field to the value stored in Targets.
3. Distinguish visually between a manually entered QA or QA:CP value and an automatically populated one (using italics for the latter) to provide a visual hint on what is going on.
4. Fix the bug identified earlier where a CP of 6+2 is only counted as 6 in the "Auto-Calculate QA" mode rather than as 8.
5. Fix the bug where when editing an existing entry the QA:CP ratio was always being set to the default (from the Targets) not the previously saved value.

You can upgrade preserving your existing data and settings by just installing again.

I'll be looking to create a release version at the end of this week.

Keith

Aug 31, 2011

novorapidboi26 1,816 posts

Topic: Questions for HCPs / Dafne Diary entries for advice please

Welcome,

A lot to take in there, have you any specific problems you are not sure about.........?

First thing I look at is whether you are holding steady overnight to see if the BI dose is right, you seem to be falling, all be it, there a other factors involved, like QA, but this would suggest maybe too much........

Have you tested your BI overnight with no carbs or QA in the system.........?

Aug 31, 2011

LindaJ 3 posts

Topic: Questions for HCPs / Dafne Diary entries for advice please

Hi
I have my annual review appointment on Thursday 1st September. I have just re-found the DAFNE online (forgotten to try it out-sorry) however I have attached my last few days diary for you to review. I have been on holiday from 21st to 28th August so it has been a bit out of sorts and I had a few low BS readings so reduced my BI to prevent it going low overnight.
Using this format I can clearly some of my errors - forgetting to inject for those snacks is a big one and obviously has a bad effect on my BS before meals.
Any advice appreciated - many thanks.

Aug 31, 2011

novorapidboi26 1,816 posts

Topic: General Discussion / SUGGESTION

I would personally get some more overnight readings, at first glance it seems as though you are dropping overnight with your current BI dose........so I would investigate that.........

you seem to be high most of the time, so logically you should be starting at your breakfast ratio, and then working from there on wards.......

Might also be worth doing some BI testing during the day with some carb free meals/miss a meal............

your heading in the right direction though..........

When did you graduate...........?

The nurses at monklands are usually quite good at advising via email if you think you need help from the "professionals"

Aug 30, 2011

Linda McSherry 3 posts

Topic: General Discussion / SUGGESTION

Hi All

I am new to DAFNE and need some help, can anybody suggest any adjustments I could make, I considered changing my dinner ratio as I am always high at bedtime would this be the correct thing to do. I think my BI is correct therefore the next adjustment would be the QA would it not?

Linda

Aug 29, 2011

Peter 103 posts

Topic: General Discussion / DAFNE Myths

marke said:
On the 10th June the Annual DAFNE Collaborative was held. This is the DAFNE get-together of all educators, programme management etc. I was
fortunate enough to be there as a DAFNE User Action Group rep. One presentation that really caught my ear that I can now share with you was
about DAFNE Myths and Misconceptions. If you click here you can read the presentation in PDF form.
Remember it is being said that ALL the things in the presenation are myths. Have a read and post your views here ! Its bound to cause some controversy, which is why I'm posting it here to see what peoples views are.

Like Mark I was also lucky enough to be present at the Collaborative when Carolin Taylor gave this presentation. I'm not sure whether everyone is aware, but as part of the process to ensure that all DAFNE training meets the required standard, and that the graduates are taught the "right" thing (i.e. what's in the handbook) each DAFNE Centre is regularly audited by an experienced DAFNE Educator from elsewhere in the country. The purpose of this presentation was to educate the Educator's on some of the myths and misconceptions that are still, wrongly, being taught. Carolin herself is a highly experienced DAFNE Educator and leads the DAFNE Educator Group which is responsible for DAFNE training.

It would be great if every Centre could provide consistent training that completely matches the DAFNE Handbook, but that is never going to be possible, and so the audit process is in place to do as much as possible to ensure consistency of education for all graduates, but there is always a possibility that something incorrect slips through. I, was taught, and still treat hypos more than 2 hours before a meal with 2+2 CPs. It works for me, at least most of the time, and that is the key message in my view. We are all different. The training and the handbook give a good foundation, but it is then necessary to add personal experience on top of that. It takes time to get that knowledge, but it's worth a few mistakes along the way to discover what works for you.

Finally, DAFNE is an evolving course. The section of the presentation on insulin types is an example of this. The handbook and course have been updated a number of times, and so that things that were taught a few years ago (e.g. 4's the floor) are no longer used. In these cases the course and handbook are updated, but that leaves a gap for those who have already been trained and don't necessarily read the new handbook cover to cover. There is probably a role for DUAG and dafneonline to get these updates to all existing graduates, and that is something that we will look into.

Aug 29, 2011

ketostix pla... 25 posts

Topic: General Discussion / EU Directive - Million Drivers face losing their licence.

Hi novorapidboi26,

At that time I was pre dafne, and be tottaly honest had been running high bgs for years, so had totally forgot about hypo awareness and the shock a hypo causes to us and others. I new in my heart that I did not need hospital treatment, but with the confusion that low bgs can cause, and my partner scared it was quite difficult to convince all that I would be ok. Dafne has given me the power and tools to be more in control now though.

Aug 29, 2011

novorapidboi26 1,816 posts

Topic: Questions for HCPs / Protein and Fats

I would probably treat the hypo with a sugary drink or Lucozade.........

These will be absorbed the quickest and probably wont be effected by the more slowly absorbed items..........

I think the most significant thing that does this is high fat foods, as opposed to high protein, and people often find they get a BG spike later on after eating..........this can be tackled with a split dose of QA, most of the time fairly successfully, but you would need to experiment.....

You say you often struggle with lows................?Could you give an example of the meal you are eating when this happens.......

Sep 1, 2011 John Syer 19 posts	Topic: DAFNE Online Mobile / Feedback from Android beta testing KeithCl said: But what problem you are hitting I'm not sure. I worked out what the problem was, I was downloading via my WiFi connection at work, and the work proxy server had cached the original version I downloaded. Once I tried again from home it worked a treat. Thwarted by technology once again ;-) Regards, John

Sep 1, 2011 KeithCl 43 posts	Topic: DAFNE Online Mobile / Feedback from Android beta testing John Syer said: John, I've just downloaded and installed again too and got the 1.3.r265. Just to be clear here this is a 2 step process: 1) use the browser on your phone to download the file; 2) click on the downloaded file to then be taken through the install or replace process. But what problem you are hitting I'm not sure. To work around it I'll email you the file directly. Give me 15 mins. Keith

Sep 1, 2011 Geofftrez 22 posts	Topic: DAFNE Online Mobile / Feedback from Android beta testing I've got the new version from the download. Guess you did something silly John.

Sep 1, 2011 John Syer 19 posts	Topic: DAFNE Online Mobile / Feedback from Android beta testing KeithCl said: The "1.3.r265 BETA" is now available for download. Hi Keith, The version available on the site seems to be 1.0.r251 again. I made sure that I cleared caches and even tried used a different machine to download it. Of course I'm willing to conceed that I've done something stupid. Regards, John

Sep 1, 2011 Lizzie 87 posts	Topic: Carbohydrate Counting / Kendal Mint Cake Does anyone know how many carbs are in this? It has nothing on the packaging to say. But during a recent holiday it seemed effective at treating hypos (nibbling a bit and guessing when to stop).

Aug 31, 2011 KeithCl 43 posts	Topic: DAFNE Online Mobile / Feedback from Android beta testing The "1.3.r265 BETA" is now available for download. (The delay in posting was my fault.) It has these fixes in it: 6. Icons on the main screen no longer dimmed. 7. Values with a single decimal point are supported in the CP, QA and BI fields now as well as the BG field. 8. Previously entered comments are offered in an auto-complete list on the comment field after one character is entered. 9. The options menu has been re-arranged to make it a bit easier to jump into carb lists when editing a diary entry. 10. The BG average calculation has been corrected to ignore diary entries that have no BG value set. and of course the earlier "1.1.r255 BETA" fixes are also there: 1. If in "Auto-Calculate QA" mode, update the QA value if either the CP value or the QA:CP value changes. 2. If the Type field is changed, always update the QA:CP field to the value stored in Targets. 3. Distinguish visually between a manually entered QA or QA:CP value and an automatically populated one (using italics for the latter) to provide a visual hint on what is going on. 4. Fix the bug identified earlier where a CP of 6+2 is only counted as 6 in the "Auto-Calculate QA" mode rather than as 8. 5. Fix the bug where when editing an existing entry the QA:CP ratio was always being set to the default (from the Targets) not the previously saved value. You can upgrade preserving your existing data and settings by just installing again. I'll be looking to create a release version at the end of this week. Keith

Aug 31, 2011 novorapidboi26 1,816 posts	Topic: Questions for HCPs / Dafne Diary entries for advice please Welcome, A lot to take in there, have you any specific problems you are not sure about.........? First thing I look at is whether you are holding steady overnight to see if the BI dose is right, you seem to be falling, all be it, there a other factors involved, like QA, but this would suggest maybe too much........ Have you tested your BI overnight with no carbs or QA in the system.........?

Aug 31, 2011 LindaJ 3 posts	Topic: Questions for HCPs / Dafne Diary entries for advice please Hi I have my annual review appointment on Thursday 1st September. I have just re-found the DAFNE online (forgotten to try it out-sorry) however I have attached my last few days diary for you to review. I have been on holiday from 21st to 28th August so it has been a bit out of sorts and I had a few low BS readings so reduced my BI to prevent it going low overnight. Using this format I can clearly some of my errors - forgetting to inject for those snacks is a big one and obviously has a bad effect on my BS before meals. Any advice appreciated - many thanks.

Aug 31, 2011 novorapidboi26 1,816 posts	Topic: General Discussion / SUGGESTION I would personally get some more overnight readings, at first glance it seems as though you are dropping overnight with your current BI dose........so I would investigate that......... you seem to be high most of the time, so logically you should be starting at your breakfast ratio, and then working from there on wards....... Might also be worth doing some BI testing during the day with some carb free meals/miss a meal............ your heading in the right direction though.......... When did you graduate...........? The nurses at monklands are usually quite good at advising via email if you think you need help from the "professionals"

Aug 30, 2011 Linda McSherry 3 posts	Topic: General Discussion / SUGGESTION Hi All I am new to DAFNE and need some help, can anybody suggest any adjustments I could make, I considered changing my dinner ratio as I am always high at bedtime would this be the correct thing to do. I think my BI is correct therefore the next adjustment would be the QA would it not? Linda

Aug 29, 2011 Peter 103 posts	Topic: General Discussion / DAFNE Myths marke said: On the 10th June the Annual DAFNE Collaborative was held. This is the DAFNE get-together of all educators, programme management etc. I was fortunate enough to be there as a DAFNE User Action Group rep. One presentation that really caught my ear that I can now share with you was about DAFNE Myths and Misconceptions. If you click here you can read the presentation in PDF form. Remember it is being said that ALL the things in the presenation are myths. Have a read and post your views here ! Its bound to cause some controversy, which is why I'm posting it here to see what peoples views are. Like Mark I was also lucky enough to be present at the Collaborative when Carolin Taylor gave this presentation. I'm not sure whether everyone is aware, but as part of the process to ensure that all DAFNE training meets the required standard, and that the graduates are taught the "right" thing (i.e. what's in the handbook) each DAFNE Centre is regularly audited by an experienced DAFNE Educator from elsewhere in the country. The purpose of this presentation was to educate the Educator's on some of the myths and misconceptions that are still, wrongly, being taught. Carolin herself is a highly experienced DAFNE Educator and leads the DAFNE Educator Group which is responsible for DAFNE training. It would be great if every Centre could provide consistent training that completely matches the DAFNE Handbook, but that is never going to be possible, and so the audit process is in place to do as much as possible to ensure consistency of education for all graduates, but there is always a possibility that something incorrect slips through. I, was taught, and still treat hypos more than 2 hours before a meal with 2+2 CPs. It works for me, at least most of the time, and that is the key message in my view. We are all different. The training and the handbook give a good foundation, but it is then necessary to add personal experience on top of that. It takes time to get that knowledge, but it's worth a few mistakes along the way to discover what works for you. Finally, DAFNE is an evolving course. The section of the presentation on insulin types is an example of this. The handbook and course have been updated a number of times, and so that things that were taught a few years ago (e.g. 4's the floor) are no longer used. In these cases the course and handbook are updated, but that leaves a gap for those who have already been trained and don't necessarily read the new handbook cover to cover. There is probably a role for DUAG and dafneonline to get these updates to all existing graduates, and that is something that we will look into.

Aug 29, 2011 ketostix pla... 25 posts	Topic: General Discussion / EU Directive - Million Drivers face losing their licence. Hi novorapidboi26, At that time I was pre dafne, and be tottaly honest had been running high bgs for years, so had totally forgot about hypo awareness and the shock a hypo causes to us and others. I new in my heart that I did not need hospital treatment, but with the confusion that low bgs can cause, and my partner scared it was quite difficult to convince all that I would be ok. Dafne has given me the power and tools to be more in control now though.

Aug 29, 2011 novorapidboi26 1,816 posts	Topic: Questions for HCPs / Protein and Fats I would probably treat the hypo with a sugary drink or Lucozade......... These will be absorbed the quickest and probably wont be effected by the more slowly absorbed items.......... I think the most significant thing that does this is high fat foods, as opposed to high protein, and people often find they get a BG spike later on after eating..........this can be tackled with a split dose of QA, most of the time fairly successfully, but you would need to experiment..... You say you often struggle with lows................?Could you give an example of the meal you are eating when this happens.......