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Sep 5, 2011
Geofftrez
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Topic: DAFNE Online Mobile / Feedback from Android beta testing Keith said:I agree that the keyboard layouts are not as good as they could be. Unfortunately Android only allows the app to provide an "input type" hint and its then up to the phone to do its best at offering an "input method editor" that can do the job. This design seems to be to allow alternate input method editors to be installed by users and selected as the preferred one. But the bottom line is that there is no way to add or change individual keys in layouts. There are some work-arounds possible but with various down sides, so for now I've left the app using the standard mechanism. The keyboard layout when you call for the BG data field is perfect - simply a numeric keypad. The keyboard layout when you call for CP, QA and BI data fields is a typical phone alpha numeric keyboard. Since those fields only need numeric data I would suspect its a programming error. |
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Sep 4, 2011
Headspace
9 posts
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Topic: Site Development / New Meter Upload Development NiVZ, I'm happy to be invovled in this. I have an UltraSmart and it would be great to be able to upload my older entries. One question: the drivers you highlighted in your post in Aug 31st are for XP and Win7. I'm running Vista - is there any way that I can be involved?Brian |
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Sep 4, 2011
Headspace
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Topic: DAFNE Online Mobile / Feedback from Android beta testing Keith, this is the first time I've been involved in testing any software or application so its been an interesting couple of weeks. I haven't really understood some of the technical aspects of the app, but as a plain old user its been enlightening to see the range of comments that have rallied back and forth.I just wanted to say thanks for developing things so far, and for making the changes that have been suggested. I think this is going to be a worthwhile outcome for all concerned, and I'm grateful for the opportunity to have been a part of it. Brian |
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Sep 4, 2011
Geofftrez
22 posts
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Topic: DAFNE Online Mobile / Feedback from Android beta testing In reply to MarkeSimon Said: On the correction dosage calculation, the DAFNE guidelines state that 1 extra IU will bring down your BG by 2-3 mmol/l, which is quite a large range, and could mean the difference between having a hypo or not. As app developer I didn't want to set myself up as a target for any legal action in case the app was seen to be giving medical advice which then caused somebody to have a hypo. |
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Sep 4, 2011
marke
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Topic: DAFNE Online Mobile / Feedback from Android beta testing
Geoff can you elaborate on your comment regarding 'litigation' ? what do you mean by this. |
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Sep 4, 2011
KeithCl
43 posts
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Topic: DAFNE Online Mobile / Feedback from Android beta testing
Using an Android 2.2 emulator, while the initial text of "Comments' is gray, any text entered and the text cursor are rendered in white on top of the very nearly white background so that the text entered is hardly visible. The problem does not occur with Android 2.3.3. There are various postings about styling problems with the AutoCompleteTextView widget that I moved to to provide auto-completion of the comments. I'll look for a work-around to make this work with all target Android versions. |
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Sep 4, 2011
KeithCl
43 posts
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Topic: DAFNE Online Mobile / Feedback from Android beta testing
I agree that the keyboard layouts are not as good as they could be. Unfortunately Android only allows the app to provide an "input type" hint and its then up to the phone to do its best at offering an "input method editor" that can do the job. This design seems to be to allow alternate input method editors to be installed by users and selected as the preferred one. But the bottom line is that there is no way to add or change individual keys in layouts. There are some work-arounds possible but with various down sides, so for now I've left the app using the standard mechanism. As commented before, the auto-calc for Android is the same as for iPhone and I think the way to go is to agree an improved design that is applied in both. But that will not make it into the first release of the Android app. |
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Sep 4, 2011
Geofftrez
22 posts
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Topic: DAFNE Online Mobile / Feedback from Android beta testing Add entry CP now accepts a decimal point but on the Samsung Galaxy the decimal point is on the second page of the number keypad. For the sake of streamlining could you replace the * with the decimal point ie use the same keypad as when entering BG values.I note that autocalc still doesnt function correctly. If you are concerned at litigation why not make it function in a sensible manner but set it so that you have to overtype it or else it defaults as a null value when you save. |
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Sep 3, 2011
swirlygirly
3 posts
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Topic: Questions for HCPs / Menstrual Cycle, BI Hi LadiesThis is like a breath of fresh air for me to read this. I've been Diabetic 16 years and have mentioned this numerous times to my Diabetic team, consultant ,nurses ect and have just got "yes, it happens to some ladies" but no practical help on how I could possibly help my control with these Blood sugar plunges and peaks. I find, like some of you that my insulin needs start to go up 10 days before a period arrives .Three days before and my insulin needs are a third more than usual ,both Basal and bolus to when I do actually start my cycle....Then if I am not quick to drop them back I Hypo all day  I have experimented with this just to prove it is my cycle and have stuck religiously to the same foods day in day out ,with the same level of exercise for a couple of Months (gosh that was boring), to try and limit variables. But my control is so obviously effected by my Monthly cycle, in fact I would go as far as to say it is ruled by my Monthly Cycle  ....So even though the DAFNE course is great. I do still struggle with this issue and it would be good if it was covered for us Ladies who do struggle with this issue.It was not covered on my course ,even when I mentioned it, it was just sort of acknowledged with a "yes" but not discussed , also in a mixed sex group it might be difficult maybe for open discussion. One lady came up to me afterwards and said on the quiet she was the same and only wanted to speak about it with me as she felt awkward in front of the Men.  Maybe she would have felt more comfortable if it had been part of the official agenda and not just brought up by one of the patients...who knows  The DAFNE is great and it has helped me a lot but I thank you ladies for being open and talking about your period and Diabetic control. I understand it is not that way for a lot of ladies but I do know it is for many of us and we do tend to suffer in silence with it. |
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Sep 3, 2011
KeithCl
43 posts
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Topic: DAFNE Online Mobile / Feedback from Android beta testing
John, Not too late - sounds like a problem that needs fixing. It may be hard for me to reproduce though which is the first step to fixing. I'll set up an emulator running Android 2.2 and using the same screen resolution as your HTC Desire and see if I can. Won't be until the week after next though... Keith |
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Sep 3, 2011
John Syer
19 posts
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Topic: DAFNE Online Mobile / Feedback from Android beta testing Hi Keith,I hope I'm not too late (or being too much of a pain) but I have just found another issue Phone: HTC Desire A8181 Android version: 2.2 Beta version: 1.3.r265 BETA Bug #9 (continuing from my previous list) - Comments are not visible when being entered Reproduce: Add a new diary entry and enter text into the comments field. The text being entered does not appear in the text box (but is added to the entry). Further information: This is a problem on my phone when in portrait mode, when holding the phone in landscape I get an expanded text entry box which works fine. I can also view the text breifly in portrait mode if I press on the text box - the text will display in the box then disappear again. Regards, John |
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Sep 3, 2011
KeithCl
43 posts
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Topic: DAFNE Online Mobile / Feedback from Android beta testing The beta testing period is now over and the app will be published on the Android Market around 14 September. (The delay is because I'm away on holiday next week.)Thanks to everyone who provided feedback or just tried it out. As listed above over 10 important fixes have been made as a result, and there are several ideas that should make it into future versions. Thanks again, Keith |
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Sep 2, 2011
Peter
109 posts
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Topic: General Discussion / DAFNE Myths What is the "floor" if it isn't 4? And what is that "treat or eat" thing all about? The treatment for a hypo IS eating.Lizzie, I believe the point that Carolin was trying to get across is that in the early days of DAFNE the instruction was to treat any BG below 4 as a hypo - hence 4's the floor. That advice has now been changed, but the easy to remember phrase has lived on. Hence the attempt to explain the current advice, which says treat as a hypo below 3.5 with rapid acting carbs. In the range 4.5 - 3.6 then the treatment should be with a smaller dose of carbs (1 CP instead of 1.5-2) which should "normal" rather than fast acting. Having said all that, this is yet another area that varies not only from person to person but on other factors. For me a rapidly dropping BG will prompt hypo symptoms above 4.5, and I will treat that with rapid acting carbs to stop the BG dropping below 3.5 maybe half an hour later. This works for me, but may be different for you. These myths were aimed at the Educators, to try to ensure that the latest advice is passed on to people going through the DAFNE course for the first time. For those of us who were trained earlier, and were taught some of what are now considered myths, then I would suggest you should continue what you were doing if it worked for you, but consider changing if it didn't. As ever it has to be a case of trial and error to understand how any advice works for our unique metabolic system. Finally, regarding you last comment "these slides seem confusing without the accompanying explanation", there is not much we can do to give access to the words used with the slides, but if there are one or two points which are still troubling you then post them here, and I will ask Carolin to provide the explanation. |
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Sep 2, 2011
melpessoa
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Topic: Questions for HCPs / Do I delay my BI insulin time when I have to do a blood test in the morning?  kkkk ahhh and so do I!!!but I think I made it!!! thank you, mel |
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Sep 2, 2011
novorapidboi26
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Topic: Questions for HCPs / Do I delay my BI insulin time when I have to do a blood test in the morning? I hope the results are good.............
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Sep 2, 2011
melpessoa
7 posts
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Topic: Questions for HCPs / Do I delay my BI insulin time when I have to do a blood test in the morning? Hiiii!!! Thank you for the reply! Well! Those things that we used to believe in the past!I come from Brazil and there my doctor used to tell me to have insulin only after the HbA1c being done... and so now that I started splitting my BI dose I got confused about it! I had forgotten to ask my diabetic nurse! I will do the blood test on Monday then! Take care, mel |
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Sep 2, 2011
novorapidboi26
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Topic: Questions for HCPs / Do I delay my BI insulin time when I have to do a blood test in the morning? Hi Mel...............I can only assume the blood test you are referring to is the HbA1c, the most significant for us Diabetics.......... If it is then you should never have to stop or delay taking your insulin, your finger test/real time blood glucose will never effect the result of you HbA1c result....... So in my non professional opinion, take your background on the normal time you usually do, no blood test should risk the control of your blood sugar levels.... Did a health care professional tell you to not take your insulin till later previously? |
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Sep 2, 2011
novorapidboi26
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Topic: Questions for HCPs / high glucose at night Hi Claire and welcome..........From what you have described it would seem that your 20:30 background dose is not enough to carry you steady overnight......... Thats what DAFNE would assume anyway......... Also, because you are having your dinner late or going to bed early you dont know accurately if your dinner ratio had done its job......try and leave a maximum of 5 hours between your dinner injection and you pre bed test, this way you can be sure its right and then eliminate that ratio from your investigation........... 
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Sep 2, 2011
novorapidboi26
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Topic: General Discussion / DAFNE Myths Its a tricky science that I am not completely clued up on, but I personally would not start exercise with a BG over 12.......If the 12 was a spike 1-2 hours after eating I would wait till it came back down, however in theory if I started exercise 1-2 hours after eating my BG should not go up as all the energy I just put in from my dinner is accounted for and can be passed on to the cells of my body with the insulin I injected........its only when you dont have enough insulin to process the higher requirement of glucose during exercise that your BG would rise.......... So it really depends on what time your doing the activity, I wouldn't put in more insulin 1-2 hours after a meal, as then I would have too much and I would go low.......unless I covered that insulin with carbs......which is not what I want to do if maintaining/losing weight...... |
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Sep 2, 2011
Lizzie
87 posts
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Topic: General Discussion / DAFNE Myths
But I have always been told to correct for BSLs higher than 13 before exercise. When I did not my BSL kept rising and was 18 after exercising. I don't know what would have happened if I had left it but 18 is too high for me so I had to correct. It certainly did not seem like it would be going down any time soon, the only effect exercise had was to make it higher. |
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Sep 2, 2011
Claire119
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Topic: Questions for HCPs / high glucose at night Every night the same pattern happens (you would think that therefore there is an easy way to identify whats going wrong). I eat my dinner around 18:30 -19:00 and correct if need be. By 22:00 before bed my glucose are high (almost always above 15.0) i correct and set an alarm for about 2-3am. I check my bloods and my glucose wont have moved at all. I check with several meters. I then correct that, but with less as I worry i will go hypo. I then wake up on a normal number. This, however, affects the rest of my day. Im high most of the time (above 10.0) and am happy to get under 10 let alone within the dafne targets. I take levemir at 8:30 and 20:30.I was wondering whether this is a form of insulin resistance as i also have PCOS, but am not overweight? Claire. |
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Sep 1, 2011
melpessoa
7 posts
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Topic: Questions for HCPs / Do I delay my BI insulin time when I have to do a blood test in the morning? Hi there, I have to do a blood test at the walk in centre tomorrow and I wonder if I have to delay my BI insulin dose in the morning, or do I take it as normal(at around 730am) and do the blood test at around 9am?Before the dafne course I used to have my insulin after the blood test being done,,, and now... should I have it on time or after the blood test has been done? Thank you for your help, mel |
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Sep 1, 2011
marke
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Topic: General Discussion / DAFNE Myths lizzie,The point of posting the presentation was to provoke discussion which is has done I'm sorry but I don't think I agree with what I perceive is your view that doctors know best and always have the answer. The truth is, with something like diabetes there are no correct answers because everyone is different and have differing experiences. In addition different studies and research are revealling things that were thought to be true are not necessarily. Hence this thread gives people a chance to discuss if they ARE myths and what their experiences are. Not a scientific study but an interesting experiement just the same, what are graduates experiences on these things ?Personally I don't believe that night-time lows cause high's in the morning. If I was low in the night I would know and have often woken in the night when my BG is too low. I think I far more likely culprit is dawn phenomeon, like a number of people I find my insulin ratio is higher in the morning than later in the day. I think the point about alcohol was it was taught that it always lowered BG and as said at the collaborative if that was true why bother with insulin when alcohol was a far more attractive alternative
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Sep 1, 2011
KeithCl
43 posts
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Topic: DAFNE Online Mobile / Feedback from Android beta testing PS I notice that the iPhone app defaults the automatic "Diary Upload" to off and I had it defaulting to on. I'll change the default to off for the Android app too. |