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May 18, 2012
novorapidboi26 1,819 posts

Topic: General Discussion / Lantus, Levemir or pump therapy advice.

I am having hypo problems at the moment, and by problem, I mean lots of them, with no obvious pattern emerging........but I had a bad one the other night, a few hours after going to bed, 2.0 I was, I then proceeded to totally over compensate with roughly 120g of carbs, which I am sure was pushing the 1000 calorie mark....took insulin for it all obviously minus that of the hypo treatment.......that's me being bad obviously, but at that time of night and at that level, you just don't care to be honest...... Wink
 
May 18, 2012
Phil Maskell 194 posts

Topic: General Discussion / Lantus, Levemir or pump therapy advice.

Hi,

I also find dieting a problem as a hypo can ruin everything Mad

Phil
 
May 18, 2012
novorapidboi26 1,819 posts

Topic: General Discussion / Lantus, Levemir or pump therapy advice.

I couldn't say for sure, but I would think that neither is better than the other for losing weight............

Obviously taking less insulin will help, but in theory you will always have the same background requirement regardless of whether it is delivered in one dose of Lantus, or a split dose of Levemir.

I have approached my HCPs for advice on weight loss and the advice always given is activity levels and calorie intake, and trying to avoid hypos.........

To date I am still about 4-5 stone overweight........... Sad
 
May 17, 2012
fishnetsboi 10 posts

Topic: General Discussion / Lantus, Levemir or pump therapy advice.

What's best levemir or lantus if you are trying to loose weight???
 
May 16, 2012
HelenP 218 posts

Topic: General Discussion / Lantus, Levemir or pump therapy advice.

All the Dafne principles work well with a pump, especially the carb counting/meal flexibility issues. A pump is just a logical extension after Dafne. Obviously you have to make some changes but none fly in the face of reason after applying Dafne rules. My pump therapy is still not as smooth as I would like but it is certainly better than the Lantus/novorapid schema I was on before. One caution: to do a pump well requires an inordinate attention to detail/changes. The rewards are there, however. Received my second pump yesterday!
Helen
 
May 16, 2012
mum2westiesGill 502 posts

Topic: General Discussion / Carbs & Cals Book - pocket version

For anyone who has a copy of the above, i know it's guestimate but as a rule of thumb out of the 2 portion sizes do you go for the smaller or the larger portion size?

Thanks in advance for any replies Smile
 
May 16, 2012
Nicky B 5 posts

Topic: General Discussion / Lantus, Levemir or pump therapy advice.

Hi "thebatoutofhull",

I'm in the same position as you at the moment. My DSN's are trying to fix my dawn phenomenon and these were the choices I was given.

Pre 2007 I was already on Levemir but was switched to Lantus because I was getting a lot of stinging/bruising on my injection sites.

So I am unsure I want to go back onto Levemir and I am starting to think that the pump maybe the answer.

Have you decided what path you are going to take?
 
May 16, 2012
novorapidboi26 1,819 posts

Topic: Questions for HCPs / High Blood Pressure

I am about to go on another 24 hour BP monitoring session............

Is there sign of damage if the majority of the time I am in range but only high in the morning and at nights.............?...........I understand an average is taken, how is this average used when considering medication....?
 
May 16, 2012
Simon Heller 46 posts

Topic: Questions for HCPs / High Blood Pressure

Hi folks. High blood pressure is a very important sign in Type 1 diabetes as it can (although not always) signify early diabetic kidney disease which might progress. Anyone with type 1 diabetes should have any high BP reading considered along with the results of urine testing for early kidney damage (indicated by increased protein in the urine, what's called albumin/creat ratio) ideally measured on an early morning urine specimen. If two specimens show increased protein levels then even if BP isn't particularly high, we would advise treatment with either an ACE-inhibitor, (lisinopril, ramopril) or what's called an A2 receptor blocker (candesartan, losartan). So I agree that a high BP in isolation needs careful assessment with perhaps a 24 recording but if protein urine levels are raised we would be keen to start these treatments as soon as possible. They definitely slow down progression of kidney damage particularly if the BP can be lowered. Simon
 
May 15, 2012
novorapidboi26 1,819 posts

Topic: General Discussion / Accu-Chek Aviva Expert Meters

I understand all your points................

I dont think anyone on here will be expecting anything from me, or anyone really, to be the gospels truth....................at least I hope that isnt the way I come across.......

Because I am quite involved with my own control, and some others, I feel I have a wide range of experience that should be shared, all be it educated opinions...... Wink ......maybe we could get some kind of post signature set up where I could tell people that I am not an HCP and that my ideas are purely from personal experience and that they are not the opinions of DAFNE UK and any of its affiliates........lol.......[dont really think thats neccesary...]

I agree you cant have an automated approach to diabetes, but certainly the process of counting carbs and dosing can be automated slightly.....................imagine everyone was as involved as me, then you would expect people to want some automation. I realise that I am probably a minority...... Very Happy .....

On a brighter note though, I have been put forward for a pump today, so its about to get a lot more complicated................... Shocked
 
May 14, 2012
Jenny Spollen 13 posts

Topic: General Discussion / Hypos

I've def experience that tiredness. Quite often it accompanies a high volume of hypos and can leave me flattened and lasts up to 48 hours in the worst cases. I agree with Novorapidboi, it's a general body-wide extreme lack of sugar. A review of BI/QA ratios/any changes in routine/exercise would be a plan.

I've also learned to recognise it as a warning sign. It generally means I've been very low very often and that I'm in trouble and is generally followed by what I like to call the hypo-headache and is usually only one or two hypos away from the pukes and I'd be of the opinion that at that stage there would be no point in anyone even trying to stick me with a glucogen cause there would be nothing my liver would have to give. That said everyone is most def different and I hope the hypos get sorted Very Happy
 
May 14, 2012
Jenny Spollen 13 posts

Topic: General Discussion / What insulin pump??

The HSE were kind enough to supply me with a Medtronic VEO minimed there before Christmas and funding to get most of the consumables. I was lucky though cause I got in just before the pump tender was finalised and now Medtronic are supplying an older version of the pump and it's that or nothing here really as far as I know, but i don't know what one's on offer to ye in Dublin. As to the price of it I think that depends on who's trying to buy it. Cost the hospital in and around the 2-3 grand but the letter i got for the insurance is nearer the 5 and a half plus vat and carriage.....!

Some of the consumables are available on list f but the rest are def not but i don't know how much they cost. I do seem to go through an inordinate number of the things though. Some of the smaller things aren't covered on either as well as spares for stuff like set inserters and they are pricey enough - in and around 90€ a pop.

I don't see why you shouldn't get a choice of meter though. I'm currently working off two - one that blue tooths to the meter (bayer contour link) and one that's a BG and ketone combo (Optium Xceed). Am pretty fond of both of them. The contour link is new enough but holding up well and the optium seems to be pretty indistructable. The hospital always seems to have a selection of the things...and bayer were kind enough to send me a free spare in the post when i rang them.

Ask your chemist too, things like meters might be covered under list f but i couldn't tell you for certain, they have removed stuff off it of late with the cutbacks. You could chance your arm and ring the diff companies. They might send you one for nothing. You'll be sticking your finger enough that you'd be worth a fortune to them in test strips.

The pump def has the potential to be the business so would recommend you go for it if you can. That said, Medtronic wouldn't be my fav company to deal with (and in 25years they're the only one's have ever felt the need to say that about).

All the best with it,
Jenny
 
May 14, 2012
marke 681 posts

Topic: General Discussion / no DAFNE

I know what you mean, I live in fear of my consultant retiring. He is getting on now and I fear without him my clinic will fall into the same mode of operation as yours. Fortunately he is a strong character as well as being a superb consultant. Its hard when you see someone different all the time and cannot build a relationship. Let alone someone who understands DAFNE as well.
 
May 14, 2012
marke 681 posts

Topic: General Discussion / Accu-Chek Aviva Expert Meters

thanks thats the response I wanted to get Very Happy You just need to remember that a lot of people are not as keen as you to build a regime. I have met many people through DAFNE and Diabetes UK that are happy to just roll again with the basics. This is why I questioned the 'could be doing damage', its important to seperate an opinion from evidence based on medical research. I don't have any problem with people expressing opinions, I just like to make clear thats what they are. Many people take what the read on the internet as fact whereas the truth is anyone can set up a website and publish a load of garbage, there is some truly scary stuff out there. I'm not suggesting you are necessarily wrong, I agree with a lot of what you say, but for the sake of a balanced and objective site its good sometimes to question people.
I still don't think you can have an automated approach to Diabetes management because there are so many variables involved, but if people want to try thats good. The important point is they understand what they are getting is a best guess and not 100% accurate. Just like your meter, which gives you a best guess at your BG NOT a 100% accurate figure. Hopefully in our lifetimes we will see continuous BG meters linked to pumps that act as psuedo pancreas's or
even stem cell therapy that will restore islet cells, in the meantime we just have to make do with life as it is.
 
May 14, 2012
mum2westiesGill 502 posts

Topic: General Discussion / Carbs and Cals Book - large / pocket?

I've got the both the large & the pocket versions but just wondering who else has got this book and whether you've got the large or pocket version or both like me.

For anyone who's got both how do you cope with the small version? After using the large version with 6 portion sizes of food on each page i just can't get used to only 2 portion sizes. How do you use the book when out and about and only 2 portion sizes to go from?
 
May 14, 2012
novorapidboi26 1,819 posts

Topic: General Discussion / no DAFNE

My clinic is still up and running but I too can see a different consultant at each visit, which is annoying, but thankfully the DSN there is the same and any help or advice I need can come from her.........
 
May 14, 2012
thebatoutofhull 60 posts

Topic: General Discussion / no DAFNE

Sheffield have not stopped. It was me who moved away from Sheffield to a PCT that did not offer DAFNE. The support in Sheffield is excellent and has a lot of DAFNE grads.

For me the best thing is to use this site. The support and advice, or just wanting a nudge in the right direction is so helpful.

There have been a lot of changes in Herefordshire where I am now. I have had 3 different consultants. Usually Locums. Their care is very good but they are not able to offer continuity re: DAFNE. I believe it was offered once.

It would be nice if I could move home but still keep in touch with a DAFNE team.
 
May 14, 2012
novorapidboi26 1,819 posts

Topic: General Discussion / Accu-Chek Aviva Expert Meters

By saying basic, I was highlighting that after you have completed DAFNE, it doesn't stop there, you need more that what has been supplied by DAFNE, as it is only the foundation from which to build and develop a regime that caters for each individual..........

I think saying 'you could be doing damage' is OK, as it could be happening, it might not though, but that's why encouraging people to test more often and to really get to know there own bodies behavior to different food and dose timings is really important, in my opinion anyway.

My control has improved greatly since DAFNE, but its not stopping complication occurring in my eyes, and a difficulty to achieve an HbA1c within the recommended target range. This I believe is down to between meal spikes.

Everyone is different and if they want to inject after a meal, that's fine, I am not saying its wrong or bad, and certainly wouldn't imply this is what DAFNE thinks either. The majority of folk will start digesting their food before the insulin has started to work properly. So this was why I mentioned that actually you should think about injecting before you eat, and sometimes, a good few minuted before. Again, this is purely from peoples [and mine] personal experiences, no documented medical facts. I like to encourage people to test, a lot, and build a picture of whats going on, in much more detail than DAFNE will teach you to.

I think the 'bolus' calculators that are being offered are good, certainly not something to be taken lightly, but its a sign that more and more people are taking a much more detailed and pro active approach to their control, and that they want a more automated approach to it all. Certainly if you have completed DAFNE training, I believe you a more than capable of using one of these functions without danger, and even more so if your on a pump, although there are some pumpers out there that have just been given it when they don't really know whats going on...... Evil or Very Mad

Regarding the app, I think it could be good. However I don't believe all graduates who sign up and download the app are at similar levels of competency in their regime, so its needs to be developed carefully I think...... Very Happy
 
May 14, 2012
Phil Maskell 194 posts

Topic: General Discussion / Accu-Chek Aviva Expert Meters

Hi,

I often do post meal injections (not breakfast as its mostly the same cereal or toast) as I'm a pig and often go back for seconds or have dessert Very Happy

I thought this was the point of DAFNE?

Just my 2p

Phil
 
May 14, 2012
marke 681 posts

Topic: General Discussion / no DAFNE

Not sure what I will do, mine has just pulled the plug. I have not been told about Sheffield withdrawing though how did you find out about them withdawing ??
 
May 14, 2012
marke 681 posts

Topic: General Discussion / Accu-Chek Aviva Expert Meters

NRB, there is no 'basic' DAFNE syllabus there is A DAFNE syllabus. I have seen lots of debate about digestion profiles and post meal spikes on other sites, however most of the discussions seem to revolve around peoples personnal beliefs rather than detailed medical research. I therefore don't believe its fair to say 'you could be doing damage' since there is no evidence to back up this claim. As we often repeat ( or favourite mantra) everyone is different and no two people will respond the same to insulin/food or any other number of factors. If someone wants to inject post meal there is no problem with this as far as DAFNE is concerned.
Its interesting that the 'expert' meter is limited to people who have had some training in does adjustment and calculation. There is discussion in other forums on the site about adding dose calculation to the DAFNEOnline App and this backs up my point that it is NOT a trivial thing and even meter companies are wary of providing the functionality. Personally I wouldn't do it but I'm not the one developing the app.
 
May 13, 2012
novorapidboi26 1,819 posts

Topic: General Discussion / Accu-Chek Aviva Expert Meters

You could still input the carb amount even if your injecting after you eat........I use the insulinX but getting into that routine isn't hard and is useful in the future....

Injecting after you eat could be doing some damage as you likely won't be matching up the insulin and digestion profiles which will be giving you or could be giving you large spikes 1-2 hours post meal. Not covered in the basic DAFNE syllabus but definitely an important issue.....

Do you inject post meal because you find you don't always finish the entire meal.....?
 
May 12, 2012
JohnC 2 posts

Topic: General Discussion / Accu-Chek Aviva Expert Meters

The Expert meter was handed out free at the end of my DAFNE course. The company rep said only people who have done DAFNE can have one. Its good but the only problem is you have to input your carbs at the same time as taking your blood reading. As I prefer to inject as soon as I've eaten (so I know how much I actually had to eat) it isn't that much use.
 
May 12, 2012
Ray O'Toole 4 posts

Topic: General Discussion / Accu-Chek Aviva Expert Meters

The nurse in my clinic went through it with me in details for about a half an hour. She set up my preferences for me.
 
May 12, 2012
novorapidboi26 1,819 posts

Topic: General Discussion / Hypos

I suppose its because there literally is no energy being supplied to your cells, and at those levels, your brain me be affected too, giving you the feeling of tiredeness..............

any thought on your hypos? could a reduction in BI help, or is it at a specific time?