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Feb 1, 2013
mum2westiesGill 502 posts

Topic: General Discussion / 7-day waking average

Fri 01/02
Bfast - missed & no test - eeek!! one of those days

so i'll do lunch instead
15:50 - Lunch -11.6
 
Feb 1, 2013
JayBee 587 posts

Topic: General Discussion / 7-day waking average

Despite illness, managed 5.1 BG this morning. Hoping for a repeat tomorrow!
 
Feb 1, 2013
JayBee 587 posts

Topic: General Discussion / Hypo hangover

I think I have because what you describe sounds familiar to some occassions where I have woken up low. In the worse cases, I develop a 24 hour headache.

Hope you're going to be okay. Not fun when that happens a lot. Sad
 
Feb 1, 2013
DianeW 115 posts

Topic: General Discussion / Overnight and morning weird readings

Last night at bedtime for some unknown reason I was 15. I did a correction of 3 units QA and took my split dose of Lantus. This morning I was 15.1. Eh? Why did the QA bring it down?

Also the other morning I was 8.5 at 7.45 a.m. I decided to do a bit of an experiment so I got up and got washed, dressed so no insulin or food, and at 10am I was 11. So is this down to not having BI plus those morning hormones kicking in?
 
Feb 1, 2013
tonisheeran 3 posts

Topic: General Discussion / 7-day waking average

Mine was 6.6 this morning yay, I have (sort of) Dawn Phenomena so that between 7.30 & 8.00 my sugars will shoot up around 6 points. If I had of tested half an hour later it would of been 12 if I hadn't of corrected with 2u
 
Feb 1, 2013
tonisheeran 3 posts

Topic: General Discussion / Hypo hangover

Hi everyone! I've noticed with my hypos that if I go low during the night or any time that I'm woken up by one that the next day I feel woeful, almost like a hang over (but without the fun of a night out before Smile) I feel headachy and a bit shaky and quite "delicate". My hypo awareness is quite good when I'm awake , I'd feel them from 3.8 or so and if I have one during the day I would normally be fine about 15 mins after and not think about it for the rest of the day. If its a night time hypo my BG would normally be under 3 by the time I wake up, (I had one the other night and it was 2.4). I was wondering if there is a difference in the effects of a hypo if your BG goes under 3 or if anyone else has suffered from hypo hangovers?
 
Feb 1, 2013
Warwick 423 posts

Topic: General Discussion / 7-day waking average

Last 3 mornings:

Wednesday 7.2
Thursday 8.4
Friday 3.7

:-)
 
Jan 31, 2013
mum2westiesGill 502 posts

Topic: General Discussion / 7-day waking average

This topic is as I mentioned earlier for people to post their waking levels.

Others can then comment/offer help. It's also for a bit of fun and not for anyone to be judged.

Eeeek! Here goes with my last 3 mornings:

Thur 31/01
10:35am - Bfast (so after I had actually put feet to floor) - 7.5

Wed 30/01
07:41 - Fastng - 3.1

Tues 29/01
08:20 - Fastng - 2.9
 
Jan 31, 2013
novorapidboi26 1,819 posts

Topic: General Discussion / Basal Testing - how often

I would say once a month would be a good routine to get into.........

on Lantus there isn't much you can do if you find you need less overnight, but more during the day, people on a split dose could test at different points in the day and make a decision...
 
Jan 31, 2013
novorapidboi26 1,819 posts

Topic: General Discussion / Changing Ratio after Hypo

You wouldn't no, keep ratios the same unless 2-3 days of high readings suggest the need for adjustment...
 
Jan 31, 2013
Warwick 423 posts

Topic: General Discussion / Basal Testing - how often

Usually, if your morning BGs are more than 1.5 different to your bedtime readings, and there is no obvious cause (exercise, stress, sickness, sneaky snack before bed), then you may want to look at modifying your BI.

Also, if you are having overnight hypos, then you may want to do some 3 am tests to find out what is going on there.

Thanks,
Warwick.
 
Jan 30, 2013
alturn 78 posts

Topic: General Discussion / Changing Ratio after Hypo

I would leave the ratios unchanged unless there is a trend so do not change for a one-off, and adjust as required (but this maybe what you have done indirectly by a different method i.e. change ratio). But after being low, I would not adjust as the treatment (how many CPs?) has taken BS back to a target level. Changing your ratio might lead to a high/low at next check. So in this case I would take CPs X 1.5 with no adjustment. You could then adjust again at next test/meal if required.

Today I was low (3.6) at breakfast, so had extra CPs then my normal ratios and CPs with no adjustment and was a bit high (8.9) at meal as my breakfast extra CPs may have been a bit more than estimated.

Hope this helps.



 
Jan 30, 2013
mum2westiesGill 502 posts

Topic: General Discussion / Changing Ratio after Hypo

My lunchtime ratio is 1.5:10 (1 and a half units to every 10g cho).

When I tested ready to have my lunch today I was hypo - 3.1 - so treated, waited to do 15 minute test at which point BS was then 6.7. I then had my lunch but instead of doing my usual QA 1.5:10 ratio did 1:10. Am I correct in doing this?

Gill Smile
 
Jan 30, 2013
mum2westiesGill 502 posts

Topic: General Discussion / Basal Testing - how often

How often should basal testing be done?

Gill Smile
 
Jan 29, 2013
novorapidboi26 1,819 posts

Topic: General Discussion / Cp values of Doritos (blue packet)

It is strange, I would of just kept going till dinner just to make sure the carb count was right.......the other possibility is your BI might be out......of course acting upon a few days results is the best way to do it as it may just be a one off.......

when did you last test your BI?
 
Jan 29, 2013
petmcgratt 4 posts

Topic: General Discussion / Cp values of Doritos (blue packet)

Left it to 3pm and BG was still rising to 15.9. I decided to correct with 8 units of QA. Just before my dinner there at 1845 my BG had only dropped to 14.6. I have taken my usual 1:1 ratio with +4 correction. Really strange that the 3pm correction had no effect whatsoever.
 
Jan 29, 2013
novorapidboi26 1,819 posts

Topic: General Discussion / Cp values of Doritos (blue packet)

You should not correct, as the dose is extremely likely to be correct, its just the timing of it that was out......

I am pumping now too, only for a week though, but the same rules still apply, you still need to think about giving your bolus dose before you eat, for me personally, 15 minutes minimum. Novorapid is marketed to take around 10-15 minutes to get going anyway, so for slower digested meals taking earlier than this will keep the spike down......

Again, its all trial and error, everyone is different, so just get a good few mid meal tests under your belt with varying pre meal injection times and see what happens.....i tend to stay in single figures is I take the insulin 30 minutes before I eat, not always possible though......
 
Jan 29, 2013
petmcgratt 4 posts

Topic: General Discussion / Cp values of Doritos (blue packet)

Thanks for the reply. I usually inject as I eat because I am on the novopen flexpen but being moved to the pump on Monday 4th Feb 2013. I have been watching my BG levels very rigorously the past couple of weeks in preparation for the switch to the pump.

Should I hold off then and see if the blood sugar does come back down in an hour or so or should I correct immediately. I suppose it might be good to watch and weight and learn from this.
 
Jan 29, 2013
novorapidboi26 1,819 posts

Topic: General Discussion / Cp values of Doritos (blue packet)

Welcome to the Forum..... Smile

An average packet of Doritos (30g) is about 2 CPs, usually 17-18g CHO........so your count it correct......

High mid meal spikes means that the insulin action has not married up quite right with the digestion action..in this case your food has digested quicker than the insulin has processed it....

You next meal reading was probably on target if not near enough, was it?

You should consider injecting earlier....

When do you normally inject for your meals.......?

If you have experienced similar readings when Doritos have been on the menu its likely the Doritos may be slowing down the digestion of the meal, in comparison to your normal speed....

Have you done any other recent mid meal tests with other meals.....?

 
Jan 29, 2013
novorapidboi26 1,819 posts

Topic: General Discussion / Snacks

I personally would try to count the 10g snacks if its possible in the previous meal.......if its closer to the next meal then you shouldn't bother......

The BI insulin only really mops up the slower processed items, like vegetables, pulses and the like.....a biscuit will actually get processed much quicker than the BI can deal with it, so the QA is better equipped.....

So with that information I wouldn't say that a split BI dose actually matters when your considering uncovered snacks.....

The best thing to do is just see what these snack do to your BG at the next meal, they might not do much, but then again they might....if they do make a significant difference you might want to inject for it, considering Insulin On Board of course.....

Wink
 
Jan 29, 2013
petmcgratt 4 posts

Topic: General Discussion / Cp values of Doritos (blue packet)

Just eaten ap a packet of doritos with a CP value of 2. Also had a BLT sandwich with a CP of 3. BG was 4.8 so took 10-1 units as my ratio was 2:1. My blood sugar 2 hours later is 14.9. I think the cp value of the doritos might not be right. Same thing happend to me last week. Has anyone else experienced this with doritos?
 
Jan 29, 2013
DianeW 115 posts

Topic: General Discussion / Snacks

I know that with BI you can have a 1CP snack without worrying about QA. Does that still apply if you split BI (morning and bedtime)? I usually have biscuit with coffee mid morning. If i had 1CP between lunch and dinner, and between dinner and bed, should i account for it with the previous QA?
 
Jan 27, 2013
googs 6 posts

Topic: General Discussion / Restaurants with carbohydrate info

Hey,if you go to their websites they nearly all have pdf files with nutritional info on easy to download,enyjoy...;-)
 
Jan 27, 2013
JayBee 587 posts

Topic: General Discussion / travel to USA

It maybe more drastic in comparison, but when I went to Japan (quite a large time difference), I did end up flipping my doses over because due to the flight, I pretty much had two mornings in a row.

If there was a smaller difference in the times, I would work out my dose work times and try to plan it over the flight. When I visited Geneva, only a couple of hours ahead, I just took my doses a little later without too much disruption.

I know neither of these are behind time places for a UK traveller like myself, but I think the ideas can still apply. Learn what time of day you're leaving, how long the flight is and what time it will be at your destination when you land. Levemir can work for up to 18 hours so you should be covered.

When deciding what meal ratio to use during flight, try to keep in mind what your body may be expecting at home...

Have a great time!! Smile
 
Jan 26, 2013
paulj 36 posts

Topic: General Discussion / Eating out / Takeaways

if i go out for a meal or order a takeaway i wait (rightly or wrongly) until i have finished the meal before injecting my insulin dose. i do this for 2 reasons.the first is incase i dont eat it all and the second is , especially with meals that contain food like potato, pasta,rice etc... because it takes longer to digest if i take my insulin dose to early it makes my blood go low to quick resulting in HYPOS. i hope this is the correct thing to do .would appreciate any of your thoughts

cheers
paulj Very Happy