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Jul 4, 2013

youone 102 posts

cargeo111 carol b said:
Thank you , i had two weetabix with milk at 10.30 took 4 units still sitting at 13.4

Hi
If you counted the 2 weetabix + the milk as 4CP and matched with 4QA that would be a ratio of 1:1
Your BG was 13.4
6 above my target of 7
Ie 2 units of QA
I would of changed the ratio to 1:1.5 giving you 6 units of QA
Which would bring you down to 6.4
Most type 1 usually have a higher ratio at breakfast
Of course this is only 1 test result,

Jul 4, 2013

cargeo111 ca... 12 posts

Topic: Questions for HCPs / insulin

after my meal i was sitting at 11.2 before should have taking 1 for correction maybe Very Happy

Jul 4, 2013

novorapidboi26 1,819 posts

Topic: Questions for HCPs / insulin

4 units sounds about right, and your insulin should be on the way out by now, if not completely expired.....

have the same again tomorrow, see what happens.......you may need a ratio change.....

do you inject before or after you have eaten....?

Jul 4, 2013

cargeo111 ca... 12 posts

Topic: Questions for HCPs / insulin

Thank you , i had two weetabix with milk at 10.30 took 4 units still sitting at 13.4 Crying or Very sad

Jul 4, 2013

novorapidboi26 1,819 posts

Topic: Questions for HCPs / insulin

you would only maybe be looking at 5g of carbs, depending on the milk amount, but no more than 10g [1unit] for it.......

but there are carbs in milk, so it should be counted, as part of a meal at least......

Jul 4, 2013

cargeo111 ca... 12 posts

Topic: Questions for HCPs / insulin

Hi do you cover milk with insulin in your cereal?

Jul 4, 2013

Garry 328 posts

Topic: Questions for HCPs / exercise

My BGs just go down after an hours swimming. Running...knees are a bit too old for that now...but energetic cycling and my bloods can rocket up - like you.
Would follow Warwick's advice. Strikes me that he is very clued up from lots of experience. But as he said, you will need experiment and find out what works for you personally.
Accurate record keeping is so important though to help you understand what works effectively.
Regards
Garry

Jul 3, 2013

Kittycat789 10 posts

Topic: Questions for HCPs / exercise

Hi Gary sorry for the delay i swim and run get high readings after both

Jul 3, 2013

novorapidboi26 1,819 posts

Topic: Questions for HCPs / Figures muddle me!!!

the basic rule for carb counting is that 1 unit is needed for every 10 grams of carbohydrate.....this can change later on as you fine tune your doses.......

Because your saying you can go low without the carbs, or even with a small increase in activity, this would suggest the background doses may be out, too much in your case......

So getting the BI tested as soon as possible is critical.........

Have you managed to do the tests yet?

Jul 3, 2013

Warwick 423 posts

Topic: Questions for HCPs / exercise

You can correct, but if you do, take BG readings at regular intervals afterwards. It is common to have a high reading following exercise, especially for competitive sport or anaerobic exercise, but often the BGs will drop naturally afterwards and hypos are more likely than prolonged high readings.

If I finished above 15, then I'd inject about half of what I'd inject if I hadn't exercised, but below 15 it always seems to sort itself out within an hour.

Feel free to experiment yourself by taking readings an hour apart afterwards and see what your trends are.

Jul 3, 2013

Warwick 423 posts

Topic: General Discussion / Increasing Lantus (BI)

Ketones below 0.5 are fine. Ketones between 0.5-1.5 are something to keep an eye on, and ketones over 1.5 = get to hospital immediately.

Just correct with QA for the high readings, and if you are correcting all of the time, then bump up your BI by 10% until the illness passes.

Jul 3, 2013

JayBee 587 posts

Topic: General Discussion / New vaccine! Should we get our hopes up?

youone said:
SimonC said:
This is interesting - and obviously we shouldn&#x27;t try to read too much into the headline, as a type 1, whose father was type 1, with kids, whose mother&#x27;s mother was type 1, there is a real risk in their bloodline, and if the kids lived in the UK, I would be very interested in some of the research.

To be honest, my holy grail is getting a continuous glucose monitoring kit - there are plenty around, but the dear old NHS won&#x27;t let me have one, and I can&#x27;t afford to fund one myself

I 2nd you the saving on a CGM kit over a meter and strips must be a large saving for the NHS so what's the issue?

In most cases it is expense. You'll end up using a lot more test strips on a CGM than a regular meter because of the continuous nature of the device. Last time I asked about one they made it quite clear they only give you one for one week to help clear the picture when you're having great difficulty - but that is my health team's opinion.

With DAFNE though, we should be able to get a good picture with our meters...

Jul 2, 2013

youone 102 posts

Topic: General Discussion / New change to DVLA driving guide April 2013

Garry said:
Thanks for that. I'm afraid I hadn't notice the text there.
Reading the documents provided by the links shows me that I was completely unaware of the guidance pdf.
I last reapplied for my licence in 2010 and was not supplied with any guidance notes to use alongside the DIAB1 form.
Thank You youone
Regards
Garry

Hi Garry
I must admit I was living in the sticks,I didn't, know until my Dafne course back in March although it is something I've always done before I drive, the only difference being I set the level at 5.8, the reason for that goes back to one of my previous consultants hammering away that my BG should be 5.8,it just stuck with me Very Happy

Jul 2, 2013

youone 102 posts

Topic: General Discussion / Increasing Lantus (BI)

Hi
Not to go off topic, reading the previous posts regarding the split of the BI into two, I would note background insulin BI has a lag before it takes affect.this is the reason like me many people are higher BG after breakfast. My ratio for breakfast is 2:1 then it changes to 1:1 for the rest of the day,I'm only on 1 inject of BI,
I,m only mentioning this since being on this site I've noticed a lot of unexplained high BG in the late evenings with people on the split then lows in the morning or hypos.
Its only my opinion but with the lag of the BI people are on the wrong ratio which makes them high there then correct thinking it will level out, but then the BI kicks in giving a confusing morning BG, which then makes people adjust BI.
Could be wrong since i'm only on 1 injection with the single lag to contend with.

On being I'll, don't knock yourself out, 10 or 13 when your I'll is acceptable, the highs are giving ketone which is normal since you aren't taking enough insulin both QA and BI.
The Dafne sick day guide points you to the correct path to take with the correct amount of insulin, which depends on TDD, you'll notice on your Dose adjustment diary at the bottom of each page, what I do is every two weeks add up the TDD and note it.
So when I was I'll last month the information is at hand to use the Dafne sick day guide, it took two weeks before I was back to my targets but it fell from 13 then to 10 then slowly to 7,I was very I'll the first week to conclude the highs are expected its just your body saying come on your not doing much activities so let's increase your insulin, when you start getting back to normal you need less
Hope this helps
Type 1 40 yrs

Jul 2, 2013

Garry 328 posts

Topic: Questions for HCPs / exercise

How strenuous is your exercise?
Regards
Garry

Jul 2, 2013

Kittycat789 10 posts

Topic: Questions for HCPs / exercise

Hi just wandering if any one can help if i get a bg in target before exercise but have a high reading afterwards, should i use corrective?

Jul 2, 2013

Lynda_2 10 posts

Topic: General Discussion / Increasing Lantus (BI)

I have been sick this weekend could not eat for two day. I kept testing and my reads were around 10 or 13 each time. I took two units after each test but reads stayed about the same. As I could not eat I was frightened to take to much. Last night I tested for ketones it showed a trace. It is the first time I have had ketones. Now eating and injecting do you think this will sort out soon? Wood like to hear from someone. Regards Lynda

Jul 2, 2013

Garry 328 posts

Topic: General Discussion / New change to DVLA driving guide April 2013

Thanks for that. I'm afraid I hadn't noticed the text there.
Reading the documents provided by the links shows me that I was completely unaware of the guidance pdf. Embarassed

I last reapplied for my licence in 2010 and was not supplied with any guidance notes to use alongside the DIAB1 form.
Thank You youone
Regards
Garry

Jul 2, 2013

Garry 328 posts

Topic: General Discussion / Another reason to avoid hospitals

Wouldn't dream of trusting anyone else to look after my BGs. You must be in personal control of your BGs whilst in hospital.
We unfortunately hear of far too many incidents.
Many medical staff think they know what they are doing....but when you question them, they are readily able to demonstrate their complete lack of understanding of even the basic principles - never mind how to keep you stable.
Never leave control to them.
Regards
Garry

Jul 2, 2013

JayBee 587 posts

Topic: General Discussion / New change to DVLA driving guide April 2013

http://dafneonline.co.uk/news

Oooo, that is good. Smile

Jul 2, 2013

JayBee 587 posts

Topic: General Discussion / Another reason to avoid hospitals

This does not surprise me in the slightest and makes me feel quite sick. I had to make issue of looking after myself last time I was in hospital and I feared for a loved one with Type 2. He sadly passed away... I find it difficult to talk about because there seemed to be a lot of misleading around his case.

Jul 1, 2013

Sam 64 posts

Topic: General Discussion / Pregnancy*

Thanks Anele. I'm just trying to get ahead of the game. I was to go for the pump on the 15/7 and I was being a bit lazy and not looking at my results. Now I'm pregnant I'm freaking ever so slighly and wished I'd just stayed on top of them from the start. I'll see them next week I was just interested in what other mums to be had gone through!
Fingers crossed Razz

Jul 1, 2013

Anele46 109 posts

Topic: General Discussion / Pregnancy*

Hi Sam,
Congratulations on your pregnancy Smile

From your diary entries, most of them point to maybe an increase in your morning BI as you are often correcting at every meal prior to your evening BI.

Thankfully during my pregnancy my insulin requirements didn't change much but every pregnancy every different.

Can your DSN not offer any assistance? I would have thought given you are diabetic and your previous history they would or should I say should be keeping a close eye on you and you BGs etc.

I wish you all the very best Sam Smile

Cheers,
Anele.

Jul 1, 2013

Sam 64 posts

Topic: General Discussion / Pregnancy*

Calling all Ladies!

My BGs are all over the place. I've increased my breakfast ratio and that seems to be bringing me into target (except for the hypo - I was out shopping) I suffer from the DP so unless I get up at 5am to take a correction I will run high in the morning. I've included my diary - suggestions welcome.
I was due to go on the pump but that's out the window for now!

I'm curious as to what other mums to be have done and how you coped. I had a misscarriage a couple of months ago and this is my second pregnancy. I'm only 6 weeks so it's very early days.
I've got an apt in a few weeks to see the Obs Consultant.

Feel free to repsond to this post or pm me

Thanks
Sam Smile

Jul 4, 2013 youone 102 posts	Topic: Questions for HCPs / insulin cargeo111 carol b said: Thank you , i had two weetabix with milk at 10.30 took 4 units still sitting at 13.4 Hi If you counted the 2 weetabix + the milk as 4CP and matched with 4QA that would be a ratio of 1:1 Your BG was 13.4 6 above my target of 7 Ie 2 units of QA I would of changed the ratio to 1:1.5 giving you 6 units of QA Which would bring you down to 6.4 Most type 1 usually have a higher ratio at breakfast Of course this is only 1 test result,

Jul 4, 2013 cargeo111 ca... 12 posts	Topic: Questions for HCPs / insulin after my meal i was sitting at 11.2 before should have taking 1 for correction maybe

Jul 4, 2013 novorapidboi26 1,819 posts	Topic: Questions for HCPs / insulin 4 units sounds about right, and your insulin should be on the way out by now, if not completely expired..... have the same again tomorrow, see what happens.......you may need a ratio change..... do you inject before or after you have eaten....?

Jul 4, 2013 cargeo111 ca... 12 posts	Topic: Questions for HCPs / insulin Thank you , i had two weetabix with milk at 10.30 took 4 units still sitting at 13.4

Jul 4, 2013 novorapidboi26 1,819 posts	Topic: Questions for HCPs / insulin you would only maybe be looking at 5g of carbs, depending on the milk amount, but no more than 10g [1unit] for it....... but there are carbs in milk, so it should be counted, as part of a meal at least......

Jul 4, 2013 cargeo111 ca... 12 posts	Topic: Questions for HCPs / insulin Hi do you cover milk with insulin in your cereal?

Jul 4, 2013 Garry 328 posts	Topic: Questions for HCPs / exercise My BGs just go down after an hours swimming. Running...knees are a bit too old for that now...but energetic cycling and my bloods can rocket up - like you. Would follow Warwick's advice. Strikes me that he is very clued up from lots of experience. But as he said, you will need experiment and find out what works for you personally. Accurate record keeping is so important though to help you understand what works effectively. Regards Garry

Jul 3, 2013 Kittycat789 10 posts	Topic: Questions for HCPs / exercise Hi Gary sorry for the delay i swim and run get high readings after both

Jul 3, 2013 novorapidboi26 1,819 posts	Topic: Questions for HCPs / Figures muddle me!!! the basic rule for carb counting is that 1 unit is needed for every 10 grams of carbohydrate.....this can change later on as you fine tune your doses....... Because your saying you can go low without the carbs, or even with a small increase in activity, this would suggest the background doses may be out, too much in your case...... So getting the BI tested as soon as possible is critical......... Have you managed to do the tests yet?

Jul 3, 2013 Warwick 423 posts	Topic: Questions for HCPs / exercise You can correct, but if you do, take BG readings at regular intervals afterwards. It is common to have a high reading following exercise, especially for competitive sport or anaerobic exercise, but often the BGs will drop naturally afterwards and hypos are more likely than prolonged high readings. If I finished above 15, then I'd inject about half of what I'd inject if I hadn't exercised, but below 15 it always seems to sort itself out within an hour. Feel free to experiment yourself by taking readings an hour apart afterwards and see what your trends are.

Jul 3, 2013 Warwick 423 posts	Topic: General Discussion / Increasing Lantus (BI) Ketones below 0.5 are fine. Ketones between 0.5-1.5 are something to keep an eye on, and ketones over 1.5 = get to hospital immediately. Just correct with QA for the high readings, and if you are correcting all of the time, then bump up your BI by 10% until the illness passes.

Jul 3, 2013 JayBee 587 posts	Topic: General Discussion / New vaccine! Should we get our hopes up? youone said: SimonC said: This is interesting - and obviously we shouldn&#x27;t try to read too much into the headline, as a type 1, whose father was type 1, with kids, whose mother&#x27;s mother was type 1, there is a real risk in their bloodline, and if the kids lived in the UK, I would be very interested in some of the research. To be honest, my holy grail is getting a continuous glucose monitoring kit - there are plenty around, but the dear old NHS won&#x27;t let me have one, and I can&#x27;t afford to fund one myself I 2nd you the saving on a CGM kit over a meter and strips must be a large saving for the NHS so what's the issue? In most cases it is expense. You'll end up using a lot more test strips on a CGM than a regular meter because of the continuous nature of the device. Last time I asked about one they made it quite clear they only give you one for one week to help clear the picture when you're having great difficulty - but that is my health team's opinion. With DAFNE though, we should be able to get a good picture with our meters...

Jul 2, 2013 youone 102 posts	Topic: General Discussion / New change to DVLA driving guide April 2013 Garry said: Thanks for that. I'm afraid I hadn't notice the text there. Reading the documents provided by the links shows me that I was completely unaware of the guidance pdf. I last reapplied for my licence in 2010 and was not supplied with any guidance notes to use alongside the DIAB1 form. Thank You youone Regards Garry Hi Garry I must admit I was living in the sticks,I didn't, know until my Dafne course back in March although it is something I've always done before I drive, the only difference being I set the level at 5.8, the reason for that goes back to one of my previous consultants hammering away that my BG should be 5.8,it just stuck with me

Jul 2, 2013 youone 102 posts	Topic: General Discussion / Increasing Lantus (BI) Hi Not to go off topic, reading the previous posts regarding the split of the BI into two, I would note background insulin BI has a lag before it takes affect.this is the reason like me many people are higher BG after breakfast. My ratio for breakfast is 2:1 then it changes to 1:1 for the rest of the day,I'm only on 1 inject of BI, I,m only mentioning this since being on this site I've noticed a lot of unexplained high BG in the late evenings with people on the split then lows in the morning or hypos. Its only my opinion but with the lag of the BI people are on the wrong ratio which makes them high there then correct thinking it will level out, but then the BI kicks in giving a confusing morning BG, which then makes people adjust BI. Could be wrong since i'm only on 1 injection with the single lag to contend with. On being I'll, don't knock yourself out, 10 or 13 when your I'll is acceptable, the highs are giving ketone which is normal since you aren't taking enough insulin both QA and BI. The Dafne sick day guide points you to the correct path to take with the correct amount of insulin, which depends on TDD, you'll notice on your Dose adjustment diary at the bottom of each page, what I do is every two weeks add up the TDD and note it. So when I was I'll last month the information is at hand to use the Dafne sick day guide, it took two weeks before I was back to my targets but it fell from 13 then to 10 then slowly to 7,I was very I'll the first week to conclude the highs are expected its just your body saying come on your not doing much activities so let's increase your insulin, when you start getting back to normal you need less Hope this helps Type 1 40 yrs

Jul 2, 2013 Garry 328 posts	Topic: Questions for HCPs / exercise How strenuous is your exercise? Regards Garry

Jul 2, 2013 Kittycat789 10 posts	Topic: Questions for HCPs / exercise Hi just wandering if any one can help if i get a bg in target before exercise but have a high reading afterwards, should i use corrective?

Jul 2, 2013 Lynda_2 10 posts	Topic: General Discussion / Increasing Lantus (BI) I have been sick this weekend could not eat for two day. I kept testing and my reads were around 10 or 13 each time. I took two units after each test but reads stayed about the same. As I could not eat I was frightened to take to much. Last night I tested for ketones it showed a trace. It is the first time I have had ketones. Now eating and injecting do you think this will sort out soon? Wood like to hear from someone. Regards Lynda

Jul 2, 2013 Garry 328 posts	Topic: General Discussion / New change to DVLA driving guide April 2013 Thanks for that. I'm afraid I hadn't noticed the text there. Reading the documents provided by the links shows me that I was completely unaware of the guidance pdf. I last reapplied for my licence in 2010 and was not supplied with any guidance notes to use alongside the DIAB1 form. Thank You youone Regards Garry

Jul 2, 2013 Garry 328 posts	Topic: General Discussion / Another reason to avoid hospitals Wouldn't dream of trusting anyone else to look after my BGs. You must be in personal control of your BGs whilst in hospital. We unfortunately hear of far too many incidents. Many medical staff think they know what they are doing....but when you question them, they are readily able to demonstrate their complete lack of understanding of even the basic principles - never mind how to keep you stable. Never leave control to them. Regards Garry

Jul 2, 2013 JayBee 587 posts	Topic: General Discussion / New change to DVLA driving guide April 2013 http://dafneonline.co.uk/news Oooo, that is good.

Jul 2, 2013 JayBee 587 posts	Topic: General Discussion / Another reason to avoid hospitals This does not surprise me in the slightest and makes me feel quite sick. I had to make issue of looking after myself last time I was in hospital and I feared for a loved one with Type 2. He sadly passed away... I find it difficult to talk about because there seemed to be a lot of misleading around his case.

Jul 1, 2013 Sam 64 posts	Topic: General Discussion / Pregnancy* Thanks Anele. I'm just trying to get ahead of the game. I was to go for the pump on the 15/7 and I was being a bit lazy and not looking at my results. Now I'm pregnant I'm freaking ever so slighly and wished I'd just stayed on top of them from the start. I'll see them next week I was just interested in what other mums to be had gone through! Fingers crossed

Jul 1, 2013 Anele46 109 posts	Topic: General Discussion / Pregnancy* Hi Sam, Congratulations on your pregnancy From your diary entries, most of them point to maybe an increase in your morning BI as you are often correcting at every meal prior to your evening BI. Thankfully during my pregnancy my insulin requirements didn't change much but every pregnancy every different. Can your DSN not offer any assistance? I would have thought given you are diabetic and your previous history they would or should I say should be keeping a close eye on you and you BGs etc. I wish you all the very best Sam Cheers, Anele.

Jul 1, 2013 Sam 64 posts	Topic: General Discussion / Pregnancy* Calling all Ladies! My BGs are all over the place. I've increased my breakfast ratio and that seems to be bringing me into target (except for the hypo - I was out shopping) I suffer from the DP so unless I get up at 5am to take a correction I will run high in the morning. I've included my diary - suggestions welcome. I was due to go on the pump but that's out the window for now! I'm curious as to what other mums to be have done and how you coped. I had a misscarriage a couple of months ago and this is my second pregnancy. I'm only 6 weeks so it's very early days. I've got an apt in a few weeks to see the Obs Consultant. Feel free to repsond to this post or pm me Thanks Sam