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Sep 5, 2015

Simon 578 posts

Topic: General Discussion / Problems with my diary

Hi Derek,

Sorry about this we're just ironing out some issues with an upgrade to the site software - are you saying that the diary above displays OK, but when you look at it through the tools menu then it's incorrect?

If possible could you send a screenshot to [email protected]

Thanks,

Simon

Sep 4, 2015

derekh1965 90 posts

Topic: General Discussion / Problems with my diary

what!! when \I share my diary it shows everything normal, yet when I go to my blood glucose diary it is blank exceppt for the top part where you choose the date range and on the right hand side showing the colored icons.

Disn't realise I should have read the diary help. If this is the changes theold style was far easier to use.

Regards
Derek

Sep 4, 2015

derekh1965 90 posts

Topic: General Discussion / Problems with my diary

Hi,

Since the site updtate this is how my diary looks, with no fields to fill in etc. Tried Firefox and IE and both the same.

Regards Derek

Sep 4, 2015

Garry 328 posts

Topic: Site Development / Diary changes

Not very friendly on a PC for first time users as drop downs would have to be used for sites as Alan said. Long term users know the order of the site fields but it would help if the text could be seen in the field. Have a look yourself Simon and see what you think.
Regards
Garry

Sep 4, 2015

Alan 49 284 posts

Topic: Site Development / Diary changes

Simon
I use a bog-standard PC to enter my readings - no real problems, but the CP box could be lengthened slightly to accommodate (say) 0+2.5. The Site boxes only show the first 3 letters (not a real problem), but the Type box only shows the first letter - so with B, your not sure if you've got Before Lunch or before Dinner. Perhaps the Date and Time boxes could be shortened.

Alan

Sep 3, 2015

Simon 578 posts

Topic: General Discussion / Dosage auto-calculation in apps

Hi Bejt1,

Although the dosage calculation was useful I agree, to say that DAFNEOnline is of little use now is a bit unfair, we still have the Diary, Charts, Carb counter, Handbook and Forums which have proved useful to a lot of people over the past 7 years.

Secondly, Mark and I run this site and apps in our spare time, we both have jobs, families, lives etc. we devote a significant chunk of that time to develop and support the site with little incentive save to support our fellow DAFNE graduates. Taking on the MHRA would take up a significant further amount of time and I'd rather focus on making the site run smoothly. If you or anyone else would like to start a campaign or take on the MHRA then I for one would be happy to support you with the technical expertise and DAFNE Online knowledge required. You can contact me directly via site message or [email protected] and we can figure out how to get it started.

Simon

Sep 3, 2015

marke 681 posts

Topic: General Discussion / Dosage auto-calculation in apps

hi betj1, when you are prepared to post in an adult manner and discuss the issue sensibly then get back to us and we will explain who the MHRA are and why its an issue. If you wish to continue with insults and accusations then I will leave you to it,

Sep 3, 2015

Simon 578 posts

Topic: Site Development / Diary changes

Hi Alan,

We've updated the site to make it work better on multiple devices, is it causing you a problem?

Thanks,

Simon

Sep 3, 2015

bejt1 3 posts

Topic: General Discussion / Dosage auto-calculation in apps

novorapidboi26 said:
All dosage calculations should be done at the meter end I think, not an app..........

getting more meters with some kind of bolus wizard is key..........there are a few out there already.......

As a DAFNE graduate you will have received education on how to calculate your insulin dosage manually and this is the correct approach. The use of meters and DAFNEONLINE to determine the insulin dosage is simply the application of algorithm or calculations that follow the DAFNE principals. The answer is not at"the meter end" as you say but in whatever device you may want to use. DAFNEONLINE was a very good tool to use for this purpose but is of little use now.

Sep 3, 2015

bejt1 3 posts

Topic: General Discussion / Dosage auto-calculation in apps

marke said:
Hi bejt1, sorry I don't understand your post at all. Who are you aiming it at ? If its us at dafneonline then you need to read the thread properly. No the auto-calculate won't be re-introduced and we have explained why. If its aimed at the MHRA, then they don't read or care about dafneonline....

If you follow the thread and observe the comments about people making decisions using DAFNEONLINE then you will understand my post!
I get very frustrated by organisations making decisions that affect others which are accepted without significant opposition. To say that MHRA don't care about DAFNE would suggest that you just want an easy life and are prepared to role over and have your tummy tickled. Why not organise a petition or campaign that gets this issue resolved, I am sure that it would be supported!

Sep 3, 2015

novorapidboi26 1,819 posts

Topic: General Discussion / Dosage auto-calculation in apps

All dosage calculations should be done at the meter end I think, not an app..........

getting more meters with some kind of bolus wizard is key..........there are a few out there already.......

Very Happy

Sep 3, 2015

marke 681 posts

Topic: General Discussion / Dosage auto-calculation in apps

Hi bejt1, sorry I don't understand your post at all. Who are you aiming it at ? If its us at dafneonline then you need to read the thread properly. No the auto-calculate won't be re-introduced and we have explained why. If its aimed at the MHRA, then they don't read or care about dafneonline....

Sep 3, 2015

bejt1 3 posts

Topic: General Discussion / Dosage auto-calculation in apps

I have just updated my DAFNE ONLINE APP and discovered that the auto calculation feature is no longer available. It appears that a decision to remove the facility has been made without user consultation and that users are now dissatisfied with the app.
I don't agree with the reason given for the removal of the auto calculation as it does not credit the user for the interaction with the app in setting targets and ratios in response to historical diary data but appears to insult users by suggesting that the app is used to make decisions about insulin dosage on a purely mechanistic process. Obviously DAFNE cannot be used without some understanding of the calculation process and the auto calculation simply speeded up the dose calculation by allowing users to more conveniently determine their dose once the settings had been entered. In addition the automatic uploading of the data to DAFNEONLINE created a convenient diary record which I found very useful when visiting a clinic.
The question I now need to consider is: why should I continue to use DAFNEONLINE as it has now been reduced to a carb counter and diary, should I look for another app, or will the auto calculation be reinstated?
I have always been hopeless at keeping a paper diary but enter about six readings a day into DAFNEONLINE for my clinician to observe, the loss of this facility is a backwards and negative decision which I feel has been made by people who don't understand to use of the app.
Please put it right Embarassed

Sep 3, 2015

Alan 49 284 posts

Topic: Site Development / Diary changes

Looks like the Multiple Entry page has been compressed slightly - is this deliberate?

Sep 2, 2015

Politikaal 6 posts

Topic: General Discussion / Dosage auto-calculation in apps

Hi Carolina, Yes, I have had a look on the App Store and there is a plethora of apps available with automatic dose calculation. I have been experimenting with RapidCalc as was recommended by another member last week and am quite impressed. I guess these apps are developed in other countries that aren't subject to such restrictive nanny state bureaucracies. I don't want to be promoting other apps on this forum, one thing that none of them have is the automatic upload and contact with our DAFNE community. The auto calculation really does make a difference for me though; anything to make diabetic life just that little bit easier is always going to be a plus. Again, I hope our hardworking team can find a way to get around this.

Sep 2, 2015

carolinapast... 1 post

Topic: General Discussion / Dosage auto-calculation in apps

There is an App called Insulin Pro which is basically a dose calculator. You just have to adjust your settings and you're good to go Smile

Sep 1, 2015

alturn 78 posts

Topic: General Discussion / Bruising on injection sites

Welcome to the forums, no harm in being a lurker especially if you can improve your control - we don't all need to contribute actively to appreciate other peoples' contribution.

It might depend on how what you are injecting into, and needle length - if its softer (stomach probably softer than thighs) then I think less chance of bruising - smaller needles may lead to less bruising, especially if you are slim.

I sometimes bruise on stomach (less often now) but not enough to be a problem but have reduced to 4mm needles for some time.

But I've currently stopped using my thighs as they were bruising (and getting lumps). I am now using my buttocks (for BI, stomach for QA) and reduced my BI. But more difficult to reach. This was after seeing DSN.

If you are clumsy, could you ask your DSN (or raise at DAFNE review - I doubt if you are unique) to review your technique?. If you can stay calm, focused and consistent then that might help to identify what causes bruises. And are you spreading your injections around stomach and thighs to use the maximum area (I found DSN are good at this - they see things from a different view)?

Hope this helps.

Sep 1, 2015

mllegarf 1 post

Topic: General Discussion / Bruising on injection sites

Hi all,

Have been T1 since Jan 2008, and am a long-time 'lurker' in the forums but this is my first post.

I have a history of bruising on my injection sites (stomach and upper thighs). I am quite clumsy, and think I bruise quite easily, but these are definitely injection-related. Is this normal? Has anyone else experienced this, and are there ways of minimising this? Obviously we have to inject ourselves several times a day, and I want to make sure I'm not damaging my body permanently and that this isn't a sign of a more sinister underlying condition.

Thanks in advance for taking this post seriously - would welcome any responses.

Sep 1, 2015

lgarden 1 post

Topic: General Discussion / Mount Kilimanjaro

Hi,

I have a patient who is due to climb Mount Kilimanjaro in a month and wondered whether anyone else had done this? If so do you have any tips?

Thanks

Leonie

Aug 31, 2015

Theodore Taylor 2 posts

Topic: General Discussion / Dosage auto-calculation in apps

Hi All,

I'd really like to get the app cleared by MHRA. Would a kickstarter help in any way?

Im sure we'd all be willing to give 50 quid to get this feature back.

Perhaps i am missing the point.

Either way, thanks to the whole team for making a great app (even without the calc)

Aug 31, 2015

Nat-Sav 15 posts

Topic: Carbohydrate Counting / Restaurants - Nutritional Information

Yesterday I came across a helpful list done by UCLH of restaurants & food outlets & cinemas who publish their nutritional info: . Nutritional info (I will post this link on the Carb Links section too.)

Harvester is 1 place that has recently published its nutritional info. I went there for lunch today, was able to calculate my QA dose accurately, and my BG now is a lovely 7.0. Very Happy

Nice when things work! So glad they have published the info now. I would have got it completely wrong otherwise - just a little example, there was 1.42cp just in the tiny pot of sauce, who knew!

If I'm arranging a meal out I like to choose places who've published carb information. It's nice on the odd occassion to be able to tuck in to some good food without worrying too much about the consequences over the next few hours... even if it something as simple as a bread roll with chips (which can sometimes be tricky to estimate because of variations in size/portion/fat content etc).

Hopefully you will find the UCLH link useful. It would be nice if there were some more Indian/Chinese places on it, but I suppose you can't expect everything! I have been in touch with some local restaurants & a some want to look into getting their nutritional information calculated, because a few customers have already asked for this. I wonder if anyone knows how I could point them in the right direction? I have no idea how a restaurant would go about this? Presumably there is a lab?

Aug 30, 2015

DavidBlackman 6 posts

Topic: General Discussion / Dosage auto-calculation in apps

Hi Simon,
Really disappointed by the MHRA decision, what a bunch of Pricks! These sorts of apps are an absolute life changer for us Type 1s and our medical teams and the removal of this function, which is available on a lot of other apps, significantly reduces its usability and makes our lives just a bit harder, again.

Well done for all the work you and others have put into this app, as you can see and probably already know it is appreciated by many.

Any suggestions from anyone on who we might be raise the issue with to see if it can be changed?

David, Melbourne Australia Mad

Aug 30, 2015

Simon 578 posts

Topic: General Discussion / Dosage auto-calculation in apps

Hi Graeme,

Unfortunately not, there is no way to go backwards with mobile apps. Sorry about that.

Thanks to all who have been understanding about this issue, it really helps in spite of the fact that others have been less supportive and some even abusive on the App Store reviews.

Sep 5, 2015 Simon 578 posts	Topic: General Discussion / Problems with my diary Hi Derek, Sorry about this we're just ironing out some issues with an upgrade to the site software - are you saying that the diary above displays OK, but when you look at it through the tools menu then it's incorrect? If possible could you send a screenshot to [email protected] Thanks, Simon

Sep 4, 2015 derekh1965 90 posts	Topic: General Discussion / Problems with my diary what!! when \I share my diary it shows everything normal, yet when I go to my blood glucose diary it is blank exceppt for the top part where you choose the date range and on the right hand side showing the colored icons. Disn't realise I should have read the diary help. If this is the changes theold style was far easier to use. Regards Derek

Sep 4, 2015 derekh1965 90 posts	Topic: General Discussion / Problems with my diary Hi, Since the site updtate this is how my diary looks, with no fields to fill in etc. Tried Firefox and IE and both the same. Regards Derek

Sep 4, 2015 Garry 328 posts	Topic: Site Development / Diary changes Not very friendly on a PC for first time users as drop downs would have to be used for sites as Alan said. Long term users know the order of the site fields but it would help if the text could be seen in the field. Have a look yourself Simon and see what you think. Regards Garry

Sep 4, 2015 Alan 49 284 posts	Topic: Site Development / Diary changes Simon I use a bog-standard PC to enter my readings - no real problems, but the CP box could be lengthened slightly to accommodate (say) 0+2.5. The Site boxes only show the first 3 letters (not a real problem), but the Type box only shows the first letter - so with B, your not sure if you've got Before Lunch or before Dinner. Perhaps the Date and Time boxes could be shortened. Alan

Sep 3, 2015 Simon 578 posts	Topic: General Discussion / Dosage auto-calculation in apps Hi Bejt1, Although the dosage calculation was useful I agree, to say that DAFNEOnline is of little use now is a bit unfair, we still have the Diary, Charts, Carb counter, Handbook and Forums which have proved useful to a lot of people over the past 7 years. Secondly, Mark and I run this site and apps in our spare time, we both have jobs, families, lives etc. we devote a significant chunk of that time to develop and support the site with little incentive save to support our fellow DAFNE graduates. Taking on the MHRA would take up a significant further amount of time and I'd rather focus on making the site run smoothly. If you or anyone else would like to start a campaign or take on the MHRA then I for one would be happy to support you with the technical expertise and DAFNE Online knowledge required. You can contact me directly via site message or [email protected] and we can figure out how to get it started. Simon

Sep 3, 2015 marke 681 posts	Topic: General Discussion / Dosage auto-calculation in apps hi betj1, when you are prepared to post in an adult manner and discuss the issue sensibly then get back to us and we will explain who the MHRA are and why its an issue. If you wish to continue with insults and accusations then I will leave you to it,

Sep 3, 2015 Simon 578 posts	Topic: Site Development / Diary changes Hi Alan, We've updated the site to make it work better on multiple devices, is it causing you a problem? Thanks, Simon

Sep 3, 2015 bejt1 3 posts	Topic: General Discussion / Dosage auto-calculation in apps novorapidboi26 said: All dosage calculations should be done at the meter end I think, not an app.......... getting more meters with some kind of bolus wizard is key..........there are a few out there already....... As a DAFNE graduate you will have received education on how to calculate your insulin dosage manually and this is the correct approach. The use of meters and DAFNEONLINE to determine the insulin dosage is simply the application of algorithm or calculations that follow the DAFNE principals. The answer is not at"the meter end" as you say but in whatever device you may want to use. DAFNEONLINE was a very good tool to use for this purpose but is of little use now.

Sep 3, 2015 bejt1 3 posts	Topic: General Discussion / Dosage auto-calculation in apps marke said: Hi bejt1, sorry I don't understand your post at all. Who are you aiming it at ? If its us at dafneonline then you need to read the thread properly. No the auto-calculate won't be re-introduced and we have explained why. If its aimed at the MHRA, then they don't read or care about dafneonline.... If you follow the thread and observe the comments about people making decisions using DAFNEONLINE then you will understand my post! I get very frustrated by organisations making decisions that affect others which are accepted without significant opposition. To say that MHRA don't care about DAFNE would suggest that you just want an easy life and are prepared to role over and have your tummy tickled. Why not organise a petition or campaign that gets this issue resolved, I am sure that it would be supported!

Sep 3, 2015 novorapidboi26 1,819 posts	Topic: General Discussion / Dosage auto-calculation in apps All dosage calculations should be done at the meter end I think, not an app.......... getting more meters with some kind of bolus wizard is key..........there are a few out there already.......

Sep 3, 2015 marke 681 posts	Topic: General Discussion / Dosage auto-calculation in apps Hi bejt1, sorry I don't understand your post at all. Who are you aiming it at ? If its us at dafneonline then you need to read the thread properly. No the auto-calculate won't be re-introduced and we have explained why. If its aimed at the MHRA, then they don't read or care about dafneonline....

Sep 3, 2015 bejt1 3 posts	Topic: General Discussion / Dosage auto-calculation in apps I have just updated my DAFNE ONLINE APP and discovered that the auto calculation feature is no longer available. It appears that a decision to remove the facility has been made without user consultation and that users are now dissatisfied with the app. I don't agree with the reason given for the removal of the auto calculation as it does not credit the user for the interaction with the app in setting targets and ratios in response to historical diary data but appears to insult users by suggesting that the app is used to make decisions about insulin dosage on a purely mechanistic process. Obviously DAFNE cannot be used without some understanding of the calculation process and the auto calculation simply speeded up the dose calculation by allowing users to more conveniently determine their dose once the settings had been entered. In addition the automatic uploading of the data to DAFNEONLINE created a convenient diary record which I found very useful when visiting a clinic. The question I now need to consider is: why should I continue to use DAFNEONLINE as it has now been reduced to a carb counter and diary, should I look for another app, or will the auto calculation be reinstated? I have always been hopeless at keeping a paper diary but enter about six readings a day into DAFNEONLINE for my clinician to observe, the loss of this facility is a backwards and negative decision which I feel has been made by people who don't understand to use of the app. Please put it right

Sep 3, 2015 Alan 49 284 posts	Topic: Site Development / Diary changes Looks like the Multiple Entry page has been compressed slightly - is this deliberate?

Sep 2, 2015 Politikaal 6 posts	Topic: General Discussion / Dosage auto-calculation in apps Hi Carolina, Yes, I have had a look on the App Store and there is a plethora of apps available with automatic dose calculation. I have been experimenting with RapidCalc as was recommended by another member last week and am quite impressed. I guess these apps are developed in other countries that aren't subject to such restrictive nanny state bureaucracies. I don't want to be promoting other apps on this forum, one thing that none of them have is the automatic upload and contact with our DAFNE community. The auto calculation really does make a difference for me though; anything to make diabetic life just that little bit easier is always going to be a plus. Again, I hope our hardworking team can find a way to get around this.

Sep 2, 2015 carolinapast... 1 post	Topic: General Discussion / Dosage auto-calculation in apps There is an App called Insulin Pro which is basically a dose calculator. You just have to adjust your settings and you're good to go

Sep 1, 2015 alturn 78 posts	Topic: General Discussion / Bruising on injection sites Welcome to the forums, no harm in being a lurker especially if you can improve your control - we don't all need to contribute actively to appreciate other peoples' contribution. It might depend on how what you are injecting into, and needle length - if its softer (stomach probably softer than thighs) then I think less chance of bruising - smaller needles may lead to less bruising, especially if you are slim. I sometimes bruise on stomach (less often now) but not enough to be a problem but have reduced to 4mm needles for some time. But I've currently stopped using my thighs as they were bruising (and getting lumps). I am now using my buttocks (for BI, stomach for QA) and reduced my BI. But more difficult to reach. This was after seeing DSN. If you are clumsy, could you ask your DSN (or raise at DAFNE review - I doubt if you are unique) to review your technique?. If you can stay calm, focused and consistent then that might help to identify what causes bruises. And are you spreading your injections around stomach and thighs to use the maximum area (I found DSN are good at this - they see things from a different view)? Hope this helps.

Sep 1, 2015 mllegarf 1 post	Topic: General Discussion / Bruising on injection sites Hi all, Have been T1 since Jan 2008, and am a long-time 'lurker' in the forums but this is my first post. I have a history of bruising on my injection sites (stomach and upper thighs). I am quite clumsy, and think I bruise quite easily, but these are definitely injection-related. Is this normal? Has anyone else experienced this, and are there ways of minimising this? Obviously we have to inject ourselves several times a day, and I want to make sure I'm not damaging my body permanently and that this isn't a sign of a more sinister underlying condition. Thanks in advance for taking this post seriously - would welcome any responses.

Sep 1, 2015 lgarden 1 post	Topic: General Discussion / Mount Kilimanjaro Hi, I have a patient who is due to climb Mount Kilimanjaro in a month and wondered whether anyone else had done this? If so do you have any tips? Thanks Leonie

Aug 31, 2015 Theodore Taylor 2 posts	Topic: General Discussion / Dosage auto-calculation in apps Hi All, I'd really like to get the app cleared by MHRA. Would a kickstarter help in any way? Im sure we'd all be willing to give 50 quid to get this feature back. Perhaps i am missing the point. Either way, thanks to the whole team for making a great app (even without the calc)

Aug 31, 2015 Nat-Sav 15 posts	Topic: Carbohydrate Counting / Restaurants - Nutritional Information Yesterday I came across a helpful list done by UCLH of restaurants & food outlets & cinemas who publish their nutritional info: . Nutritional info (I will post this link on the Carb Links section too.) Harvester is 1 place that has recently published its nutritional info. I went there for lunch today, was able to calculate my QA dose accurately, and my BG now is a lovely 7.0. Nice when things work! So glad they have published the info now. I would have got it completely wrong otherwise - just a little example, there was 1.42cp just in the tiny pot of sauce, who knew! If I'm arranging a meal out I like to choose places who've published carb information. It's nice on the odd occassion to be able to tuck in to some good food without worrying too much about the consequences over the next few hours... even if it something as simple as a bread roll with chips (which can sometimes be tricky to estimate because of variations in size/portion/fat content etc). Hopefully you will find the UCLH link useful. It would be nice if there were some more Indian/Chinese places on it, but I suppose you can't expect everything! I have been in touch with some local restaurants & a some want to look into getting their nutritional information calculated, because a few customers have already asked for this. I wonder if anyone knows how I could point them in the right direction? I have no idea how a restaurant would go about this? Presumably there is a lab?

Aug 30, 2015 DavidBlackman 6 posts	Topic: General Discussion / Dosage auto-calculation in apps Hi Simon, Really disappointed by the MHRA decision, what a bunch of Pricks! These sorts of apps are an absolute life changer for us Type 1s and our medical teams and the removal of this function, which is available on a lot of other apps, significantly reduces its usability and makes our lives just a bit harder, again. Well done for all the work you and others have put into this app, as you can see and probably already know it is appreciated by many. Any suggestions from anyone on who we might be raise the issue with to see if it can be changed? David, Melbourne Australia

Aug 30, 2015 Simon 578 posts	Topic: General Discussion / Dosage auto-calculation in apps Hi Graeme, Unfortunately not, there is no way to go backwards with mobile apps. Sorry about that. Thanks to all who have been understanding about this issue, it really helps in spite of the fact that others have been less supportive and some even abusive on the App Store reviews.