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Dec 3, 2012
mum2westiesGill 502 posts

Topic: General Discussion / Diary Entries - correction help please

On Saturday I went out for an Indian and ate the meal about 08:10pm ish then It was 01:10am - 17.2 before bed. I didn't correct for a fear of going hypo.
On Sunday morning it was 07:56am - 13.7. I did a correction of 2u and no food (which is why I wanted to know how to enter a correction dose with no food)
then 09:24am - 2.9 - had 5 jelly babies
then 10:39am - 6.4 - bfast
 
Dec 3, 2012
novorapidboi26 1,819 posts

Topic: General Discussion / Diary Entries - correction help please

When I say before bed, I mean after any food and insulin has expired...............

I would correct without fear of hypo........some may not be comfortable however but something should be done about a 16.5 before bed.....

 
Dec 3, 2012
paulj 36 posts

Topic: General Discussion / Diary Entries - correction help please

leave it and see what you are in trhe morning.its maybe something you had eaten previously which your stomach is still digesting and your insulin hasnt sorted out yet. for example if i have a baked potato a couple of hours before i go to bed my BG at bedtime is higher than normal but it tends to correct itself by morning.
 
Dec 3, 2012
novorapidboi26 1,819 posts

Topic: Carbohydrate Counting / Tesco sandwich labelling

Lol, good guess, that's exactly what I would have guessed.......

Overtime you wont need to guess for things like that though, and that's a good thing in my opinion. Eventually you build up your own little database for things you eat regularly.....

Still annoying though when these shops cant put the basic information on their products that the people needing them can use......

I am an ASDA man....... Wink
 
Dec 3, 2012
DianeW 115 posts

Topic: Carbohydrate Counting / Tesco sandwich labelling

Well the bread wasn't that thick and from having sandwiches from them before I guessed at 4CPs and I was 7.2 at dinner so I was happy with that.

Aaargh! Annoying, shouldn't have to guess. Boycott Tesco!
 
Dec 3, 2012
novorapidboi26 1,819 posts

Topic: Carbohydrate Counting / Tesco sandwich labelling

Oh i see.........

I understand........I wonder if they have omitted the weight because its likely to be purchased by folk looking to lose weight....and they may not want to see it......

The DAFNE educated individual knows this is nonsense however.....

So how many carbs did you guess and did the insulin dose work out OK.......?
 
Dec 3, 2012
DianeW 115 posts

Topic: Carbohydrate Counting / Tesco sandwich labelling

Oh yes it wasnt that i couldnt work it out, it was just so annoying that with all the facts and figures on the packet it didnt have the weight! It was red salmon and cucumber and for 100g it gave carbs as 26g.

Just very frustrating when other Tesco sandwiches not in Light range have weight on pack AND give you carbs PEr PACK.
 
Dec 3, 2012
novorapidboi26 1,819 posts

Topic: Site Development / New diagnosis

A stay in hospital is normal at the start. Managing blood sugar at this time can be tricky as I am sure you know.........
 
Dec 3, 2012
novorapidboi26 1,819 posts

Topic: Carbohydrate Counting / Tesco sandwich labelling

An average slice of bread is 15-20g of carbs, so 2 units.....

This is the way I work it out when eating bread and it always works...

What was in the sandwich.......?

Smaller slices are 10g and rolls are usually 30g...
 
Dec 3, 2012
novorapidboi26 1,819 posts

Topic: General Discussion / Diary Entries - correction help please

What would you do if you were 16.5 before bed?
 
Dec 3, 2012
novorapidboi26 1,819 posts

Topic: General Discussion / Sick day

Arianne explains it well.............

The sick day rules are simply procedures to follow in order to manage one thing, ketones..........they wont make you feel better, but they will keep the ketones under control, especially when you are unable to eat as a result of the illness....

It seems you have not completed the DAFNE course so you will not know the rules and cant view them on here until you do complete the course.....

 
Dec 3, 2012
vaughanie 5 posts

Topic: Carbohydrate Counting / Poppadoms - really?

I just had a curry last weekend, my first ever since I did the DAFNE and looks like l got my CP count not just outside the ball park, but in the next town!

I had 1 poppa, what I thought was half a plate of rice, chicken breast with minced lamb inside and a half plate of sauce. Thinking it was more like 10CP than the 6CPs I allowed for!
 
Dec 3, 2012
vaughanie 5 posts

Topic: Carbohydrate Counting / White Bread or Brown?

Marmite and Bovril are the Devil's work..!

Granary bread however, till the cows come home. My favourite is Seed Sensation by Hovis but will buy others if that is sold out. White bread I am sorry but holds about as much delight as chewing cardboard which funnily enough, eating white bread closely resembles. Very Happy
 
Dec 3, 2012
DianeW 115 posts

Topic: Carbohydrate Counting / Tesco sandwich labelling

I thought that recently food labelling was all going to be improved, I don't know if that has happened yet or not.

I bought a Tesco Lighter Choice sandwich. It gave the carbohydrate value for 100g but NOWHERE on the packet (I checked several times) did it give the total weight, so I had to guess, which I can do yes, but that is not the point. This is terrible! The irony is that on a "normal" sandwich it does give the weight. It's no good giving the total suger value like it does because that is not the same.
 
Dec 2, 2012
Ariane 14 posts

Topic: General Discussion / Sick day

Hi Dean,
Did you complete the DAFNE course?
Have a look at the DAFNE Course Handbook on this website,(should be top right fourth down on this screen) It will be in there. Its under the 'Coping when you are ill' title.

Here is the direct link : http://www.dafneonline.co.uk/hbook_topics/188

It basically refers to how your insulin regime should differ if you are ill and are producing ketones as a result of high blood sugar levels because you have an infection or are unwell.
I won't explain it because it is too complex but it is explained in a very clear flow chart illustration in the handbook (link above).

It confused me too at first, as I thought it would be something to do with legal issues about taking time off et c !
The term 'rules' is somewhat ambiguous but it becomes clear once you read and understand the guidelines because they are essentially 'rules on how to treat yourself when ill'.

Hope this helps! Very Happy
 
Dec 2, 2012
Ariane 14 posts

Topic: DAFNE Online Mobile / iPhone App - Comments & Custom Carb Items

Hi there,
Am also wondering how to add my own calculations or indeed some from the online site to my android app as the food lists do not match?
I can't see the add my own button anywhere except the 'add entry' button which of course takes me to a diary entry rather than enabling me to add my own foods. Sad

Can you help?

Thanks!
 
Dec 2, 2012
Dean123 7 posts

Topic: General Discussion / Sick day

I I am new to this what do you mean by sick day rules, and how do you put them together? Thanks dean
 
Dec 2, 2012
Alan 49 284 posts

Topic: General Discussion / Diary Entries - correction help please

Gill
Just enter the date and time with 0+2 in the QA box your BG reading , select where you injected it and select 'Correctional' from the 'Type' options.
 
Dec 2, 2012
mum2westiesGill 502 posts

Topic: General Discussion / Diary Entries - correction help please

The only time I ever do a correction dose is with a meal or if I had a high BS first thing in the morning.
I would never do a correction before bed.

This morning I had a high BS in the teens and did a correction of 2u QA. Jelly babies were at the ready Laughing .

My question is how would I enter a 2u correction without a meal time dose in my diary?

Gill Smile
 
Dec 2, 2012
Peter 109 posts

Topic: General Discussion / Petition for government funding

The DUAG team are meeting tomorrow, and how to increase the rate of signatures on the petition is one of the items for discussion. Any suggestions gratefully received.
 
Dec 1, 2012
Sam 64 posts

Topic: Site Development / New diagnosis

Just realised I posted in wrong bit! Oh well!
Thanks. She's still in hospital they're not happy with her BGs so keeping a closer eye on her. Poor wee soul must be frustrated! I've spoke to her and told her to listen to the professionals and me haha! She's asking lots of questions and I can happily answer them. They won't have her carb counting until she stabilises a bit. I've told her to get on dafne which will make all the difference.
Thanks for listening to my rant Smile
 
Dec 1, 2012
Warwick 425 posts

Topic: Questions for HCPs / DAFNE view of Post-meal BG Testing

Hello,

I had a training session on the Accu-chek Aviva Expert today, and the guy taking the training (while overseen by DAFNE educators) said to test 2 and 4 hours after eating. The general idea is that the 2 hour test should show BGs around about 8.0, and the 4 hour test should show BGs around 6.0. The 'science' behind it is that if you are significantly lower than 8 at the 2 hour mark, then you may be heading for a hypo.

Of course, all of this depends on the GI of the food consumed, what exercise you are doing, whether it's hot or cold weather etc, so it is just a general guideline. Perhaps try for a week while recording results, and if you find you can accurately predict when you are heading too low from the 2 hour reading, then continue, but if not, then don't.

Hope this helps.
Warwick.
 
Dec 1, 2012
Warwick 425 posts

Topic: Questions for HCPs / Concerns of Meter Readings

Meters have to be within 20% of the real BG reading. Looking at the readings above, and assuming with the 14.4 figure that the TR and AN might be reading a bit low, the WSJ would just sneak in. Do you still get hypo symptoms when having a hypo? If so, next hypo, I would test using all three and see if they are all showing you as being below 4.

Are you planning on having an HbA1c any time soon? A recommendation is to check your BGs as close as possible to your blood being taken for the HbA1c. When the results come back, part of the report should have what your BG reading was at the time of the test. This should be about as accurate as you can get, and then you can check your meter(s)' results against that result.

I am having similar concerns with the Accu-check Expert. I received one today, and I love its features, but because I had a whole bunch of test strips from my old meter to use up, I thought I would test on the same drop of blood. The Expert has been giving me much higher readings then my old meter all day. Finally before dinner, I dug out every meter I have in the house, and ran a test with all 5 of them.

Here are my results:

Meter 1: My backup Optium Exceed Freestyle: 11.4
Meter 2: True Result: 10.4
Meter 3: My current meter - Optioum Exceed Freestyle: 10.7 (using strips from the same pack as meter 1)
Meter 4: Accu-chek Mobile - 10.6
Meter 5: Accu-chek Expert - 12.6.

With the exception of the Expert, the rest are all within 1 mmol/L of each other which I can live with, but the Expert is 2 mmol/L different to its sister meter from Accu-chek, and 2.2 from the lowest result. I am pretty sensitive to insulin, and being out by 2 mmol/L is an issue for me.

This seems quite dangerous - a reading from the Optium today told me I was 4.5, so not safe to drive, while the Expert said 5.4, in which case I would be OK to drive. It also increases the likelihood of hypos as I might take too much insulin.

I'll discuss with Accu-chek this week. Perhaps I have a bad batch of strips. I doubt that the other four meters are ALL on the low side. I tend to get hypo symptoms bang on 4.0 with the Optium, but that may be that because I have been using it for the last 2 years, I have trained my body into getting hypo symptoms at whatever BG level I have when the Optium reads 4.0.

All the best with it, and hope that you get some resolution.

Warwick.
 
Dec 1, 2012
Alann 12 posts

Topic: Questions for HCPs / Concerns of Meter Readings

Really need some advice and or reassurance here, so any comments would be welcomed especially from health care professionals. In my last post I raised concerns about the accuracy of my meter, after a number of hypos this week. Well having had a long conversation this evening with a representative from Wave sense and conducting two tests while on the phone with them, the results over three different manufactures meters where more or less the same. Fears put aside and feeling assured that the inconsistency I had found and the resulting hypo had been down to other factors and the Wave Sense jazz was in fact working correctly.
Well it came to my bed time test and I thought I would share the results with you. I preformed three tests on three different meters with interesting results. It has to be remembered that I believe the meter use different technologies, but I would expect the result to be similar. The greatest concern is the widely varying results given by the Wave Sense Jazz.
Test 1
True Result – 9.3
Wave sense Jazz -12.1
AccuCheck Nano – 10.1
Test 2
True Result – 9.7
Wave sense Jazz -14.4
AccuCheck Nano – 10.3
Test 3
True result – 9.2
Wave sense Jazz -9.4
AccuCheck Nano – 9.2

Each meter was charged with the same drop of blood and each test was done within a minute of the previous one. Now as you can see if I had believed the Jazz on test two I would taken a larger correction and potentially gone hypo in the night.
 
Nov 30, 2012
Alann 12 posts

Topic: General Discussion / Petition for government funding

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