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Jun 15, 2011

JayBee 582 posts

Topic: General Discussion / Carbs v Cals

It's only since doing DAFNE that I even bothered looking at carb counting. I just never made the click to turn myself into a personal lab mouse lol.

Before DAFNE, I just ate whatever I fancied for my meals and did nothing but guesswork based on whatever I could remember from past experience of that particular bit of food.

I have never been on any diet and quite frankly, I think most of them are a waste of time considering it's often a lifestyle change needed - not a diet change. Diets tend to be only quick fixes or a chore that won't last so I refuse to go on a "diet". I rarely snack, if at all. If I'm hypo'ing a lot, the last thing I want to do is snack to take on more body fuel that I don't need!

Small lifestyle changes are much easier (and more fun!) to apply and are long term moves for the better. It's all too common for people to blame the food they eat, when they should take some responsibility for their life choices in the first place.

Some may think that this is easier said than done (understandable natural frustration considering some of us will have other conditions to work around), even rich coming from me considering I've only ever been underweight or a good weight throughout my life, but this logic is working for me so I naturally encourage it! Smile

Thyroid issues are quite a big factor to fight when it comes to weight loss and I'm very thankful that I don't have that sort of problem (yet). Sad

I wish you all the best of luck with your working with it. If you're overweight or more, you're naturally more likely to have increased insulin resistance.

Did anyone see those You Tube videos about Type2 diabetes and how it works? Quite frightening stuff! Sad

On Twitter it was suggested that perhaps some Type1s have the Type2 condition as well... what do we think of this? Certainly would explain the increased insulin resistance...

Jun 15, 2011

novorapidboi26 1,816 posts

Jun 15, 2011 JayBee 582 posts	Topic: General Discussion / Carbs v Cals It's only since doing DAFNE that I even bothered looking at carb counting. I just never made the click to turn myself into a personal lab mouse lol. Before DAFNE, I just ate whatever I fancied for my meals and did nothing but guesswork based on whatever I could remember from past experience of that particular bit of food. I have never been on any diet and quite frankly, I think most of them are a waste of time considering it's often a lifestyle change needed - not a diet change. Diets tend to be only quick fixes or a chore that won't last so I refuse to go on a "diet". I rarely snack, if at all. If I'm hypo'ing a lot, the last thing I want to do is snack to take on more body fuel that I don't need! Small lifestyle changes are much easier (and more fun!) to apply and are long term moves for the better. It's all too common for people to blame the food they eat, when they should take some responsibility for their life choices in the first place. Some may think that this is easier said than done (understandable natural frustration considering some of us will have other conditions to work around), even rich coming from me considering I've only ever been underweight or a good weight throughout my life, but this logic is working for me so I naturally encourage it! Thyroid issues are quite a big factor to fight when it comes to weight loss and I'm very thankful that I don't have that sort of problem (yet). I wish you all the best of luck with your working with it. If you're overweight or more, you're naturally more likely to have increased insulin resistance. Did anyone see those You Tube videos about Type2 diabetes and how it works? Quite frightening stuff! On Twitter it was suggested that perhaps some Type1s have the Type2 condition as well... what do we think of this? Certainly would explain the increased insulin resistance...

Jun 15, 2011 novorapidboi26 1,816 posts	Topic: General Discussion / Great Might be best finding something online out of the supermarket and testing with those values......

Jun 15, 2011 dafne-dude 11 posts	Topic: General Discussion / Great yeah i don't get that one where it says noodles dried (who eats uncooked noodles).. yeah 1:1 ratio

Jun 15, 2011 novorapidboi26 1,816 posts	Topic: General Discussion / Great Neil Brown said: Says 100g is 3 CP so is that not 9 ???? yeah, for boiled anyway (cooked), seems to be less for fried/pilau, maybe less water content.............found in the takeaway section.........

Jun 15, 2011 Neil Brown 28 posts	Topic: General Discussion / Great Says 100g is 3 CP so is that not 9 ????

Jun 15, 2011 novorapidboi26 1,816 posts	Topic: General Discussion / Great actually I think its 7.5 for fried/pilau and 9 for boiled (300g) noodles, its says its 7 for 100 grams dried, but dont know if that means cooked or not cooked........... are you on 1:1 ratio at dinner......?

Jun 15, 2011 dafne-dude 11 posts	Topic: General Discussion / Great 7qa for that 300g tub?? i think i took 12qa for 250g of noodles and no surprise hypo'd 2hrs later..

Jun 15, 2011 novorapidboi26 1,816 posts	Topic: General Discussion / Great 70 grams in 300g tub..........fried , boiled, pilau...........

Jun 15, 2011 Welshmapleleaf 19 posts	Topic: General Discussion / Great Blimey! Don't get me started about how much insulin you need to cover a tiny amount of rice either!!!!!!!

Jun 15, 2011 dafne-dude 11 posts	Topic: General Discussion / Great yeah neil i think that at times too especially with pasta i always have more than the fistful of pasta on my plate and the amount of insulin required just seems mega..

Jun 15, 2011 dafne-dude 11 posts	Topic: General Discussion / Great yeah me too never knew about correction doses and other really helpfull tips like this, it is such an eye opener i wish they had courses like this 17yrs ago.. and i also discovered fruit sugar which is much better than sweetners great for yer coffee ha.. i done the course in stobhill hospital

Jun 15, 2011 Neil Brown 28 posts	Topic: General Discussion / Great its the amount of carbs per portion.......I feel that its a lotta lotta carbs for a little bit of food ! or perhaps I'M just greedy ! I did DAFNE at Victoria Infirmary in Glasgow

Jun 15, 2011 novorapidboi26 1,816 posts	Topic: General Discussion / Hb1Ac results Its amazing some of the attitudes HCP had back then, I have never been below 7.9, but I dont get moaned at as its hard, even with 110% effort........and also harder back in the day when even the HCPs understanding was limited in comparison to the likes of the DAFNE principals..............

Jun 15, 2011 novorapidboi26 1,816 posts	Topic: General Discussion / Great Before DAFNE I was on a mixed insulin and never knew about insulin regimes such as MDI, just couldn't believe that I wasn't told this much earlier............ It is simple maths at the end of the day, theres just no way I could back............. What are you struggling with Neil......? Were did you guys do the course...........?

Jun 15, 2011 dafne-dude 11 posts	Topic: General Discussion / Great before dafne i would always guess the amount of qa and never get the dose correct but hopefully this will come with time and be able to be confident when eating them as noodles and rice are my fav foods.. Unfortunatley i don't have an iphone but the dafne carb counting book is practically glued to me i take it everywhere.. The other week i got a chicken noodle soup and if i have this correct it took 9qa to cover it, which i thought at the time it was a huge amount but turned out to be spot on..

Jun 15, 2011 Neil Brown 28 posts	Topic: General Discussion / Great ARGH ......don't mention noodles or pasta...still struggling myself. If you have an I phone download carbs and cals...not only does it give a weight to carb value but also give pictures of portion sizes which is great when out and abou

Jun 15, 2011 novorapidboi26 1,816 posts	Topic: General Discussion / Great I do have takeaway food and yes, it is sometimes difficult to get the carb count right...........if you get similar things on a regular basis, then you can weigh out things like noodles, rice, naan bread and then you will know what it is next time, assuming they come in the standard/similar box sizes................. For me personally a takeaway is a treat, and so I dont mind roughly guessing as I am treating myself............ But as you say, it does get easier as time goes by and the more you count carbs.........

Jun 15, 2011 dafne-dude 11 posts	Topic: General Discussion / Great cheers novorapidboi26, i'am enjoying food now even the sweet things ha, can i ask do you eat takeaway food?? reason i ask is i'am sorta struggling working out the carbs in things such as noodles, i kno theres a section in the booklet but even then i always take too much qa, suppose it's just a live n learn thing eh....

Jun 15, 2011 Michaela 13 posts	Topic: General Discussion / Carbs v Cals Hypothyroid? when you no longer produce the thyroid hormone or produce very little. In my case I do not produce thyroxine so have to take a replacement pill. There are several different types and causes apparently. Overdosing on soy can have a negative effect on the thyroid. I still eat tofu and use soy sauce. I do have soy butter sometimes and rarely soy milk but now I am using almond milk. I don't really need a milk replacement except for the occasional recipe. BTW I eat a very wide variety of food. I had PBJ for lunch which is something you would not do if you were carb or calorie counting. Of course, I do not eat them every day and as in my previous post my PB is palm oil free so a bit less in fat than some others even though it's not a 'light' version.

Jun 15, 2011 novorapidboi26 1,816 posts	Topic: General Discussion / Great I second that............ Welcome to the forum...................

Jun 15, 2011 dafne-dude 11 posts	Topic: General Discussion / Great Hello all, I have recently graduated from dafne and i must admit what a great course it is, so educational i have lived with diabetes for 17yrs and what i've learned in that week was just amazing.. cheers dafne

Jun 15, 2011 novorapidboi26 1,816 posts	Topic: Questions for HCPs / DAFNE and Retinopathy I think that minor retinopathy can be reversed if the weakened blood vessels are allowed to heal and strengthen through normal, stable blood sugars, and even so with laser treatment, but I think the use of the laser will cause some damage of its own as opposed to the retinopathy causing it........

Jun 15, 2011 novorapidboi26 1,816 posts	Topic: General Discussion / Carbs v Cals Michaela said: (a problem if you have Hypothyroid like me) Whats that, I suspect my thyroid isn't perfect..........

Jun 15, 2011 Michaela 13 posts	Topic: General Discussion / Carbs v Cals Agreed. You can still get fat on whole food if you eat a lot of fat, but avoiding all the processed foods with it's added sugar, salt, soy (a problem if you have Hypothyroid like me) and fat will be better for you in the long run even if you aren't trying to lose weight.

Jun 15, 2011 novorapidboi26 1,816 posts	Topic: General Discussion / Carbs v Cals Michaela said: I do have meat occasionally, usually when going out (but not always if I can find a decent vegan option). Part timer........lol............. My sister was vegan, her daughter has always been........what you say is probably right..........I dont know if I could do it though, there is a fine line between wanting to stay skinny and enjoying a wide variety of foods........ Although I know most vegans would tell you their choice to be so is down to many more factors.........