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Sep 19, 2011
Lizzie 87 posts

Topic: General Discussion / Can someone please remind me...

Thanks for all the helpful advice.

I thought the night hypo causing a morning high thing was a myth or misconception according to the recent post on here?

Regarding the metformin, I was on it. I stopped taking it when my prescription was cut without consultation and I kept running out before I got the next prescription. Since then my blood sugars have not really got straight again. I wish I had never taken it. I never lost any weight in fact I was gaining, and it did not improve my blood sugars. Before I took it I was just out of DAFNE, my ratios were working fine and I was losing weight. Metformin just messed everything up.
 
Sep 18, 2011
caroline15 45 posts

Topic: General Discussion / Getting partner involved

Haven't been on here for a while but thought I would share our conversation last week

Me: My blood's low

Him: Do you have ketones Confused

By the way many congrats on your marriage novarapidboi Very Happy (Amy and I both on pump as of last Monday Very Happy hope you get one soon).
 
Sep 18, 2011
Damo8 9 posts

Topic: General Discussion / Android App

Thanks keith, makes a lot more sense to me now.
 
Sep 18, 2011
KeithCl 43 posts

Topic: General Discussion / Android App

Damo8 said:
So do the calculations only count those with sa prefix rather than taking the ones marked "correctional" via the drop down?


Yes it is the + or - that is used as the indication that its a correction. Somewhere in the beta thread someone asked what the "Correctional" entry type was for and I had to answer that I did not know; the Android (and iPhone AFAIK) code does not perform any processing based on that value.

Although the Android code allows multiple entries to have the same date/time, I just tried an upload and it looks like this site does not as you discovered. So it may be that I should add some code to the phone to disallow the creation of multiple entries with the same date/time.
 
Sep 18, 2011
Damo8 9 posts

Topic: General Discussion / Android App

Hi guys, I had not realised that I should use plus and minus symbols. So I will start using those. So my single entry corrections were just 2 rather than + 2.

So do the calculations only count those with sa prefix rather than taking the ones marked "correctional" via the drop down?

Regarding the missing ones with the same date and time. They were saved in my phone but not on the dafne web site. Maybe an upload problem but a bit of a coincidence. I'll be adding the correction along with the other stuff more using the prefix so problem solved anyway.

Cheers.
 
Sep 18, 2011
mum2westiesGill 502 posts

Topic: Questions for HCPs / BG Results

Hi Dave,
Yes i have got a built in web cam and i do use skype, Could you not copy and paste your charts then either put them into a word pad or just copy and paste straight into an email. I think we can exchange email adds using the message inboox on the left hand side of here. I ordered the book "CARBS AND CALS FOR PEOPLE WITH DIABETES BY CHRIS CHEYETTE AND YELLO BALOLIA," and it arrived on Friday Very Happy. I am becoming familiar with the fact a 1: 1 ratio means it's 1 unit of QA insulin to every 10 carbs eaten. I had porridge and 1 round of roberts thick sliced bread this morning for breakfast which looking at the photos in the carbs and cals book would be about 37cp (porridge) and 20cp bread = 57cp & i did 6u of QA humalog insulin. I saw my diabetic specialist nurse ( a new one at the gp surgery) on Thursday, she said to alter my insulin to 5-6u QA humalog from 10u, stick to 10u at lunch ( usually a sandwich / crisps / soup but not all three), 12 - 14u at dinner (spag bol, chilli, casserole...) & stick to 34u at bedtime (sometimes have supper sometimes not). Hope me dribbling on makes some sense to you, lol Laughing
 
Sep 18, 2011
KeithCl 43 posts

Topic: General Discussion / Android App

Damo8 said:
yes that's exactly what I meant. I see now that I've had a better look at the website itself that that's how out is in the blood glucose diary.


I just copied the diary entry layout from the iPhone app; I imagine the layout was chosen because of screen space issues, where for these mobile devices there are often only 320 pixels across compared to a computer screen that has 1024 pixels. That makes more than a few columns of output impossible to fit on the screen.

Damo8 said:

On the other point, my summary doesn't seem to be picking up anything for correctional


I'm having trouble reproducing you situation. First, the date/time is not the key so it should be possible to have multiple entries for the same date/time. I've just entered the following QA values over a couple of minutes to an empty database:
  • 8
  • +2
  • 6+1
  • 8-1
  • -2
and that yields:
  • TDD (BI + QA) Averages/Last 7 Days: 22.0 IU
  • Corrective QA Counts (7/14/30/90 Days)/Before Lunch: 2+2-/2+2-/2+2-/2+2-
These results are what I would expect: the average is the sum of all the numbers (because they are all from the same day) with the corrections (indicated by the + or - prefix) added or subtracted and the correction instance counts are correct whether the correction is entered on its own (e.g. +2) or at the same time as the non corrected value (e.g. 6+1).

Please supply complete detail of what you are doing so I can reproduce the problem.
 
Sep 18, 2011
John Syer 19 posts

Topic: General Discussion / Android App

Hi Damo8,

Damo8 said:
I had been splitting the entries when taking corrections. So had entered then for the same time. However I noticed that if you do this the second entry over rides the first and the data is lost. I'm guessing the date is the key field therefore must be unique. I've started adding the corrections in a couple of mins after the qa and bg.


I was on the beta test team so have had a bit longer to play with the app. I have been entering the correctional doses in the main entry i.e. Lunch QA=8+2. This then has the correct date/time stamp and shows up in the summary, and the +2 shows me that it is a correctional dose. This is how I was instructed to do it on my DAFNE course (Melbourne Australia).

Regards, John
 
Sep 17, 2011
Damo8 9 posts

Topic: General Discussion / Android App

Hi Keith yes that's exactly what I meant. I see now that I've had a better look at the website itself that that's how out is in the blood glucose diary.


On the other point, my summary doesn't seem to be picking up anything for correctional. I have several in my diary but the summary shows 0 + 0 + 0/etc. Hope I'm not being daft and missing something here.

I had been splitting the entries when taking corrections. So had entered then for the same time. However I noticed that if you do this the second entry over rides the first and the data is lost. I'm guessing the date is the key field therefore must be unique. I've started adding the corrections in a couple of mins after the qa and bg.
 
Sep 17, 2011
Steven 18 posts

Topic: DAFNE Online Mobile / Feedback from Android beta testing

KeithCl said:

Steven said:
Hi,

Is this the best place to suggest improvements to the app? If so please could we have BG figures within range highlighted in green, as on the website?

Thanks
Steven


Might be clearer now the beta is over to post to http://www.dafneonline.co.uk/forums/1/topics/387 instead; can you re-post this there?



OK, I have just done so Laughing
 
Sep 17, 2011
Steven 18 posts

Topic: General Discussion / Android App

Hi,

If possible please could we have BG figures within range highlighted in green, as on the website?

Thanks
Steven
 
Sep 17, 2011
KeithCl 43 posts

Topic: DAFNE Online Mobile / Feedback from Android beta testing

Steven said:
Hi,

Is this the best place to suggest improvements to the app? If so please could we have BG figures within range highlighted in green, as on the website?

Thanks
Steven


Might be clearer now the beta is over to post to http://www.dafneonline.co.uk/forums/1/topics/387 instead; can you re-post this there?
 
Sep 17, 2011
KeithCl 43 posts

Topic: General Discussion / Android App

Damo8 said:
is it possible to transpose the entries page so that the display format mimics the diary?


Do you mean have time going across and CP, BG, QA, BI going down? Or do you mean something else? Please be as specific as possible.

Damo8 said:
my summary doesn't seem to be adding up my correction doses


I have a passing test case for the summary logic that I think includes all the permutations but I may have missed something; can you supply an example of an entry that isn't correctly included?
 
Sep 17, 2011
daveyboy 4 posts

Topic: Questions for HCPs / BG Results

whiskysmum said:
Hi,
Thanks for your reply. It does explain things a bit better for me.

Hi dave here again do you have a web cam or built in one as it would be easy for me to to explain on skype its free and you can get more done i will try and work out how to send you my charts or email them to you when i can work that out too on amazon there is a book called CARBS & CALS FOR PEOPLE WITH DIBETES BY CHRIS CHEYETTE & YELLO BALOLIA
1 unit of qa can lower bg by 2-3 mmols
1cp can increase bg by 2-3 mmols
10 cps is equal to 1 cp
2 thick sausages is 10 carbs so you need 1 unit of qa

10 carbs is equal to i unit of qa insulin every thing is worked out by carbs but before i done the course i was told to take 14 units at meals no matter what i ate and 24 units of bi at night if you check the carbs on packets you will not be far off
 
Sep 17, 2011
daveyboy 4 posts

Topic: Questions for HCPs / BG Results

grandma carol said:

whiskysmum said:
Hi there Daveyboy,
Thank you for your reply. You're very lucky being able to go on a DAFNE course & like you say you've learnt all about the ratios, hypos, tablets etc, maybe you could teach me about this ratio thing and the way it's all written down ie 1:1, 0.5:1, 3:1 etc when i see it all on here on the forums. The book i bought looks excellent if i could maybe learn how to use it and maybe alongside my diabetic specialist nurse who i go to see at my gp surgery. They don't do a dafne course in Warrington & i don't have the time to be travelling miles away to one or to be staying away from home due to family ie hubby, daughter & son. I guess i'll just have to carry on trying to learn from the forums on here.


The 1-1 and 2-1 etc on hear is 1 unit of insulin to what is cauled 1 carb on all the packets of food there is a carbohydrate value like on the bread it will say per 100g and then per slice on the Burgen bread it is 38.5g per 100g and 15.4g per slice divided by 10 so 15.4 is 1.54 so on a 1-1 ratio that would be 1.5 units of Humalog or to the nerast unit so 1 unit or 2 units of insulin.
Ilike you was on a fixed dose for years but now chance depending on what I am eating.I wason 26 units of Lantus at night and with what I was told on DAFNE I am now on 10 units I did not know that I was hypoing through night but now things are a lot better.
I am on a ratio of 2.5-1 1.5-1 and 1-1 and then the Lantus 10 units. Hope that helps a bit but it would be better if you went on DAFNE Rolling Eyes

Hi unfortunatly i am on novarapid and levermir but as i said if you go to the diabetic unit at the hospital near to you and ask about the dahne course they should help or give you the information you require but to go on the course is invalueable
 
Sep 17, 2011
mum2westiesGill 502 posts

Topic: Questions for HCPs / BG Results

Hi,
Thanks for your reply. It does explain things a bit better for me.
 
Sep 17, 2011
mum2westiesGill 502 posts

Topic: Questions for HCPs / BG Results

Hi,
Thank you for your reply. I will look forward to you sending the copies & examples & copy of your chart, it's very kind of you. Can you send them on here or will you need my email address?
 
Sep 17, 2011
grandma carol 61 posts

Topic: Questions for HCPs / BG Results

whiskysmum said:
Hi there Daveyboy,
Thank you for your reply. You're very lucky being able to go on a DAFNE course & like you say you've learnt all about the ratios, hypos, tablets etc, maybe you could teach me about this ratio thing and the way it's all written down ie 1:1, 0.5:1, 3:1 etc when i see it all on here on the forums. The book i bought looks excellent if i could maybe learn how to use it and maybe alongside my diabetic specialist nurse who i go to see at my gp surgery. They don't do a dafne course in Warrington & i don't have the time to be travelling miles away to one or to be staying away from home due to family ie hubby, daughter & son. I guess i'll just have to carry on trying to learn from the forums on here.


The 1-1 and 2-1 etc on hear is 1 unit of insulin to what is cauled 1 carb on all the packets of food there is a carbohydrate value like on the bread it will say per 100g and then per slice on the Burgen bread it is 38.5g per 100g and 15.4g per slice divided by 10 so 15.4 is 1.54 so on a 1-1 ratio that would be 1.5 units of Humalog or to the nerast unit so 1 unit or 2 units of insulin.
Ilike you was on a fixed dose for years but now chance depending on what I am eating.I wason 26 units of Lantus at night and with what I was told on DAFNE I am now on 10 units I did not know that I was hypoing through night but now things are a lot better.
I am on a ratio of 2.5-1 1.5-1 and 1-1 and then the Lantus 10 units. Hope that helps a bit but it would be better if you went on DAFNE Rolling Eyes
 
Sep 17, 2011
daveyboy 4 posts

Topic: Questions for HCPs / BG Results

whiskysmum said:
Hi there Daveyboy,
Thank you for your reply. You're very lucky being able to go on a DAFNE course & like you say you've learnt all about the ratios, hypos, tablets etc, maybe you could teach me about this ratio thing and the way it's all written down ie 1:1, 0.5:1, 3:1 etc when i see it all on here on the forums. The book i bought looks excellent if i could maybe learn how to use it and maybe alongside my diabetic specialist nurse who i go to see at my gp surgery. They don't do a dafne course in Warrington & i don't have the time to be travelling miles away to one or to be staying away from home due to family ie hubby, daughter & son. I guess i'll just have to carry on trying to learn from the forums on here.

Hi when i get a new printer in about a week i will be able to send you some copies and examples including a copy of my chart for this week but if you get the chance go for the course as in attending mine i have now been able to bring a more staple control of my insulin inj and changed the quantity to go with the carbs i am actually eating Very Happy
 
Sep 17, 2011
mum2westiesGill 502 posts

Topic: Questions for HCPs / BG Results

Hi there Daveyboy,
Thank you for your reply. You're very lucky being able to go on a DAFNE course & like you say you've learnt all about the ratios, hypos, tablets etc, maybe you could teach me about this ratio thing and the way it's all written down ie 1:1, 0.5:1, 3:1 etc when i see it all on here on the forums. The book i bought looks excellent if i could maybe learn how to use it and maybe alongside my diabetic specialist nurse who i go to see at my gp surgery. They don't do a dafne course in Warrington & i don't have the time to be travelling miles away to one or to be staying away from home due to family ie hubby, daughter & son. I guess i'll just have to carry on trying to learn from the forums on here.
 
Sep 17, 2011
daveyboy 4 posts

Topic: Questions for HCPs / BG Results

whiskysmum said:
Hi,
Been to see my Diabetic Specialist Nurse today she mentioned to me about the book carbs & cals which i've just ordered. Just wondered what anybody elese on here thinks about my results. I'm VERY confused about all this ratio thing. Never been on a DAFNE course as i just don't have the time but i find logging my results on here and browsing the forums very interesting and would like to try and learn from my new book.

hi i have just done the dafne course this week in northampton and believe me its one of the best things i have done learnt so much about ratio,s hypos, tablets, diets and on and on if you get the chance go for it you will never look back daveyboy
 
Sep 17, 2011
Damo8 9 posts

Topic: General Discussion / Can someone please remind me...

Sorry last post was not clear. I was talking about the metformin. I don't think it is so uncommon.
 
Sep 17, 2011
Damo8 9 posts

Topic: General Discussion / Can someone please remind me...

Hi. PaulineO and I have just been on the course. The doctor explained that if you are a bit over weight your body can develop a resistance to insulin in the same way a type two would.

I wouldn't dismiss it out of hand. It could be just what you need, particularly if you continue to struggle to control your bg.
 
Sep 17, 2011
Damo8 9 posts

Topic: General Discussion / Android App

Keith ,is it possible to transpose the entries page so that the display format mimics the diary?

Also my summary doesn't seem to be adding up my correction doses. Was wondering if it could be a bug or if I'm not entering them correctly. I've been adding them as separate entries and marking them with the correctional option in the pop up.

Cheers.