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Mar 14, 2012
Eugene 27 posts

Topic: General Discussion / Exercise classes and type1?

thebatoutofhull said:
Hi, just to say that I have stopped injecting in my stomach area because it increased fat deposits. I have already noticed a difference after about 2 months.

Eugene said:
sjohno
Ive been type 1 for almost 7 years, was never sick, just started drinking gallons of anything I could get my hands on, sweeeter the better ! just mentioned it to Doc when went about a cold, and immediatly diagnosed as Type1 after urine sample in his office !!
novarapidboi26
Well I take loads of carbs noting to do with exersise or gym, just types of food I like. Pre DAFNE I used to take in total 24 measures daily including BI ! Couldnt figure out , still cant how my control was so good !
What I also found out was that because I was injecting in my stomach, three times on same side with Novarapid, once on other side for levemir, I had a layer of fat ( thayt I couldn't shift)which was exactly in the injection areas. and it was larger on the Novarapid side which I injected three times daily. Found an article in Fitness magazine which said the Insulin was responsible for me retaining subcutaneous fat in the injection areas. I now inject into top of my legs, right for Levemir , left Novarapid Very Happy I have reduced the layer of fat, but still little bit there.Diabetes is weird the way it effects us differently ! My readings today were 6.7 at 8.30 am, took 11 units , for my 11CP.At 2.18 pm, BS was 5.9, took 10 units for cp value of 10. at 9.05 pm, BS was 6.9, took 13 units, for CP value of 13.
At 9.30pm, just took 8 units of BI, didnt do any readings, this is my normal regime, in comparison to some I know, I think Im quite fortunate.



Yes I was never told by any of the Doctors or Consultants that the Insulin could cause build up of fat in the injection sites. They had no objection what so ever to me switching ,to top of my legs though. Its something I think Doctors should mention to all patients but especialy those who they know are following fitness regimes.
 
Mar 14, 2012
Eugene 27 posts

Topic: General Discussion / Exercise classes and type1?

novorapidboi26 said:
I don't know where you guys get the time for all that......I get home at 5 pm and then a couple of nights a week I do some martial arts training.........

Eugene, the description of your control is not very common with all the diabetics I talk to in the UK, so your very lucky, being physically on form means the cells of your body must be using the insulin really efficiently........and even after 7 years, you might still have some beta cell function.....maybe not though.........

You say your 80kg, what's that in stone.......seems tiny, which again will help.......

80 kg is 12.5 stone,which I dont think is tiny, Im 5.7 " I hope to get it down to 12 stone, and stabilise at that weight.I was a stone heavier three years ago, before I got back to regular exersise.Now the exersise I do are quite intense with very little rest periods in between. I know what your saying regarding my control regime, but in the DAFNE group I was in, everyone had a different way of doing it previously, and our readings differed greatly. My Doctors have said I dont have any Beta cell function, I was tried on tablets initally but I may as well have being taken smarties.
 
Mar 14, 2012
thebatoutofhull 60 posts

Topic: General Discussion / Exercise classes and type1?

Hi, just to say that I have stopped injecting in my stomach area because it increased fat deposits. I have already noticed a difference after about 2 months.

Eugene said:
sjohno
Ive been type 1 for almost 7 years, was never sick, just started drinking gallons of anything I could get my hands on, sweeeter the better ! just mentioned it to Doc when went about a cold, and immediatly diagnosed as Type1 after urine sample in his office !!
novarapidboi26
Well I take loads of carbs noting to do with exersise or gym, just types of food I like. Pre DAFNE I used to take in total 24 measures daily including BI ! Couldnt figure out , still cant how my control was so good !
What I also found out was that because I was injecting in my stomach, three times on same side with Novarapid, once on other side for levemir, I had a layer of fat ( thayt I couldn't shift)which was exactly in the injection areas. and it was larger on the Novarapid side which I injected three times daily. Found an article in Fitness magazine which said the Insulin was responsible for me retaining subcutaneous fat in the injection areas. I now inject into top of my legs, right for Levemir , left Novarapid Very Happy I have reduced the layer of fat, but still little bit there.Diabetes is weird the way it effects us differently ! My readings today were 6.7 at 8.30 am, took 11 units , for my 11CP.At 2.18 pm, BS was 5.9, took 10 units for cp value of 10. at 9.05 pm, BS was 6.9, took 13 units, for CP value of 13.
At 9.30pm, just took 8 units of BI, didnt do any readings, this is my normal regime, in comparison to some I know, I think Im quite fortunate.
 
Mar 14, 2012
novorapidboi26 1,819 posts

Topic: General Discussion / Exercise classes and type1?

I don't know where you guys get the time for all that......I get home at 5 pm and then a couple of nights a week I do some martial arts training.........

Eugene, the description of your control is not very common with all the diabetics I talk to in the UK, so your very lucky, being physically on form means the cells of your body must be using the insulin really efficiently........and even after 7 years, you might still have some beta cell function.....maybe not though.........

You say your 80kg, what's that in stone.......seems tiny, which again will help.......
 
Mar 13, 2012
Eugene 27 posts

Topic: General Discussion / Exercise classes and type1?

sjohno
Ive been type 1 for almost 7 years, was never sick, just started drinking gallons of anything I could get my hands on, sweeeter the better ! just mentioned it to Doc when went about a cold, and immediatly diagnosed as Type1 after urine sample in his office !!
novarapidboi26
Well I take loads of carbs noting to do with exersise or gym, just types of food I like. Pre DAFNE I used to take in total 24 measures daily including BI ! Couldnt figure out , still cant how my control was so good !
What I also found out was that because I was injecting in my stomach, three times on same side with Novarapid, once on other side for levemir, I had a layer of fat ( thayt I couldn't shift)which was exactly in the injection areas. and it was larger on the Novarapid side which I injected three times daily. Found an article in Fitness magazine which said the Insulin was responsible for me retaining subcutaneous fat in the injection areas. I now inject into top of my legs, right for Levemir , left Novarapid Very Happy I have reduced the layer of fat, but still little bit there.Diabetes is weird the way it effects us differently ! My readings today were 6.7 at 8.30 am, took 11 units , for my 11CP.At 2.18 pm, BS was 5.9, took 10 units for cp value of 10. at 9.05 pm, BS was 6.9, took 13 units, for CP value of 13.
At 9.30pm, just took 8 units of BI, didnt do any readings, this is my normal regime, in comparison to some I know, I think Im quite fortunate.
 
Mar 13, 2012
novorapidboi26 1,819 posts

Topic: General Discussion / Exercise classes and type1?

I think your levels of activity and muscle mass is most definitely the reason your on so little insulin, that or you have been diagnosed within the last few years...........

I need to get more active and drop my carbs pronto.......;)

Will never be on doses like you though......Sad
 
Mar 13, 2012
Eugene 27 posts

Topic: General Discussion / Exercise classes and type1?

It just shows how different our regimes are and what works for individual.My diet is varied and I eat what I want .I seldom take my insulin before my meals (just bad habit) Usually start getting meal ready ,calculate carbs I do weigh all my carbs when I'm at home,eat my food sometimes take QA just before I start eating but just as often afterwards .Before DAFNE I took 3x6 QA and 6 BI !
So post DAFNE I was taking more insulin because I was measuring my carbs value.I love whole meal breads pasta
 
Mar 13, 2012
Eugene 27 posts

Topic: General Discussion / When is best to take BI Levemir

I take my Levemir @9.30pm approx each evening.I'm fortunate in not requiring any further BI.Never had any problem with Levimer and on odd occasions I would have good few drinks I would drop one unit.Recently I forgot to bring my background insulin and for the one day I was without I found my readings were fine .
 
Mar 13, 2012
novorapidboi26 1,819 posts

Topic: General Discussion / Exercise classes and type1?

your HbA1c is good, well done.............it just shows you being active really does the job, and its probably down to this that makes your bg manageable..................i would imagine youe insulin doses are tiny, so less room for error etc........

what is your diet like?

do you find you need to inject long before meals?
 
Mar 13, 2012
Eugene 27 posts

Topic: General Discussion / Exercise classes and type1?

No I dont adjust my insulin level or measure them before exersise. If I had any doubts or was feeling the slightest bit off, I would check my levels, but generally I dont need or have to check them.
Generally i will have eaten at least 90 minutes prior to exersise or going to the gym,so I would have tested blood sugars then,but mainly for record purposes and to see how much QA insulin I required.
After doing the DAFNE course, I almost eighteen months ago, I did take small dose of insulin prior to exersise, but I found my figures were all over the place, and resulted in more lows. So i decided not to make any adjustments or take any readings just because of exersise. My HbA1c figures before and after DAFNE are very similar which suprised me, as I generally took less insulin prior to DAFNE. I find my weight is stable, because I do fair amount of weight training, I havent lost a lot of weight,(muscle being heavier) stabilised now at 80kg, but not carrying any loose flesh.
 
Mar 13, 2012
Eugene 27 posts

Topic: General Discussion / Exercise classes and type1?

novorapidboi26
My last HbA1c was 6.7 , my meal figures are normally in single figures, unless I have had a snack or its only been a couple of hours since I last took insulin. When I did the DAFNE course, I was struck by the different regimes we all seemed to have. I couldnt be taking readings 6,or 8 times daily as my normal routine, personally it suits me to take readings prior to main meals, breakfast,lunch, dinner. Then I take my background insulin at 9.30pm, I just record this, and generally wouldnt take my blood sugar levels unlessI felt the need. This regime suits me, its not to invasive and now with the App, not having to go looking for pen or a diary !
I have an appointment with my Consultant/Hospital in two weeks and will get my most recent HbA1c, cholesterol levels.

sjohno
I would normally go to gym, about 60/90 minutes after having had my lunch/food, I would have checked my blood sugars prior to the food. UnlessI felt a doubt about my levels , I wouldn't feel it necessary to test prior or after my gym workouts, or runs.I can generally feel /tell if my levels are off and would test,in such circumstances.
 
Mar 13, 2012
novorapidboi26 1,819 posts

Topic: Site Development / Show diary entries between query

I think by default it goes back to the most recent results, probably because the most recent results are the ones we are concerned with............

if it didn't this might cause protest for others who dont want to see results from 2, 3 weeks ago.......

might be good to have a month/calendar type thing at the side for quick navigation......
 
Mar 13, 2012
novorapidboi26 1,819 posts

Topic: General Discussion / Exercise classes and type1?

3 readings a day, wow, I take between 8-10, however I certainly dont need to take that amount at least as far as following the DAFNE principals are concerned.............i try and get my between meal readings down to single figures, otherwise there would be no chance of getting a lower HbA1c.....

6.6 is a good average, not very accurate with only 3 readings, but good none the less, what is your latest HbA1c?
 
Mar 13, 2012
Eugene 27 posts

Topic: General Discussion / Exercise classes and type1?

As I said we all vary/differ,I've never measured prior to exercise unless I had doubts about my blood sugar levels. Similarly I wouldn't measure afterwards unless I felt there was need. I find it easier to spot trends on App rather than having to flick back through pages in diary. My fitness level certainly has big bearing on my bloodsugars,my average readings over past two months = 6.6.
I try to just take three readings daily,as well as recording my background insulin,but I generally don't record my blood sugars's when taking my
background insulin( unless I felt there was need or I had any doubts).
If I eat between meals/readings,I make would just take the required QA.
 
Mar 13, 2012
Simon 578 posts

Topic: Site Development / Show diary entries between query

Hi Nicky,

I'll take a look at this for you and see if we can fix it.

Simon
 
Mar 13, 2012
Nicky B 5 posts

Topic: Site Development / Show diary entries between query

Hi,

When using the "Show diary entries between:" option on "My Blood Gluscose Diary" I select a range to view but if I edit an entry or add an entry it goes back to the default view and not the range I selected.

Is this something that can be fixed?

Thanks in advance.

Nicky Very Happy
 
Mar 13, 2012
novorapidboi26 1,819 posts

Topic: General Discussion / Exercise classes and type1?

Eugene said:
Each person will differ/vary. I train 3/4 times weekly in gym, I engage in strenuous clases,as well as weight training,and spin classes lasting 40 minutes. I also do occasional runs of about 3/4 km. I would spend a minimum of 80 minutes per session working out. I dont measure bloods before or after unless I would have the slightest doubts about my bloodsugar levels.
I find its very important to take correct insulin at next scheduled time.As I found I was possibly taking an extra QA and going low during the nights after exersising. I have since almost totally corrected this by insuring the dose is as exact as is possible.

For anyone with a smart phone, I find the Android app really convenient and extremely helpful.I no longer use a paper diary, I record all my readings on the App, which also has Food Groups, Carb counter, summary etc. As I always have my phone with me, I now dont miss recording my readings.



You say you dont test prior to and after activity, did you used to? If so what were your readings?

Surely your BG levels are effected by your exercise.........?

I use both paper and app, the app for me cant spot patterns and display them to you, hence the paper........
 
Mar 13, 2012
Eugene 27 posts

Topic: General Discussion / Exercise classes and type1?

Each person will differ/vary. I train 3/4 times weekly in gym, I engage in strenuous clases,as well as weight training,and spin classes lasting 40 minutes. I also do occasional runs of about 3/4 km. I would spend a minimum of 80 minutes per session working out. I dont measure bloods before or after unless I would have the slightest doubts about my bloodsugar levels.
I find its very important to take correct insulin at next scheduled time.As I found I was possibly taking an extra QA and going low during the nights after exersising. I have since almost totally corrected this by insuring the dose is as exact as is possible.

For anyone with a smart phone, I find the Android app really convenient and extremely helpful.I no longer use a paper diary, I record all my readings on the App, which also has Food Groups, Carb counter, summary etc. As I always have my phone with me, I now dont miss recording my readings.
 
Mar 12, 2012
SA2010 69 posts

Topic: General Discussion / Lantus Solostar pre-filled pen releasing insulin when pressed on zero setting

Thanks Garry for the feedback. I use the BD Micro 8mm needles with the lantus solostar.

Anyway sanofi uk quality team asked for the pen to be sent to them to investigate.

I am on different pen now and so far I have not had low BGs so far. Still get drops on "0" dose so I do not understand, May be I was pressing down too hard and longer than 10 seconds. With low dose such as mine, 5 units and 4 units, an additional half unit or 1 unit would make a difference.

I do tend to take the pen out of the fridge 10 hours or more before I need to use it so that would not be the issue,

Will wait and see what sanofi say ... may be it is something else but accuracy of the doses is not good unless one needs big doses in which case it would be tiny percentage. For lose doses it is not good. The Novopen 3 demi with novofine 6mm needles does not leak at all on "0"
 
Mar 12, 2012
Garry 328 posts

Topic: General Discussion / Lantus Solostar pre-filled pen releasing insulin when pressed on zero setting

Tried to replicate your problem with my current Lantus Solostar pen but without success. Get 2 drops out of a 0.23 mm diameter x 4 mm needle as worst case.
Must say that I unknowingly follow Lantus instructions as to injection method and when injecting hold button down until 10 seconds is up.
Only other thing that I could think of was that if it was first use - and the pen was still normalising temperature to ambient after removal from fridge - there would be slight pressure within the pen which would be released when pressed - even on 0.
Personally on first use of a new pen I wind it all the way up to 80 and wind it back again to 0 as I have found sometimes the mechanism can be a bit sticky, particularly if thumb not exactly on the centre of the button and it can seem to lock and the insulin is delivered in spurts. Does not fill me with confidence about correct dose applied.
Have found that my pen initial wind-up does the trick though and have had no further sticky dose applications.

Regards
Garry
 
Mar 10, 2012
Simon Robinson 4 posts

Topic: DAFNE Online Mobile / Download entries from site?

Hi Simon

I have used the following:-

After Breakfast
After Dinner
After Lunch

Also i have used the 'snack' and 'hypo' option, and all of the Before Breakfast, Lunch Dinner etc...

Hope this helps

Simon
 
Mar 10, 2012
Simon 578 posts

Topic: DAFNE Online Mobile / Download entries from site?

Hi Everyone,

Could you take a look at the set of entries you are trying to download on the site and let me know (on the forums) if you have any entries which are the following type:

After Breakfast
After Dinner
After Lunch
Before Supper
After Supper
Illness
Fasting

I think the issue may be how the app deals with entry types which haven't been added to it's database yet. Please also let me know if the entries you are trying to download don't have the type set to any of the above - as this means that isn't the issue.

Thanks!
 
Mar 10, 2012
Simon Robinson 4 posts

Topic: DAFNE Online Mobile / Download entries from site?

Hi Alan

Thanks for the quick response! Smile

I have contacted site admin and reported it and they are working on the issue, in the meantime thanks for the good advice as the iPhone diary upload is spot on and works well.

All the best

Simon
 
Mar 9, 2012
SA2010 69 posts

Topic: General Discussion / Lantus Solostar pre-filled pen releasing insulin when pressed on zero setting

Thanks James for trying it on your pen. I tried a new lantis solostar pen and it does leak with "0" dose - in fact the longer you leave it the more it leaks. I will switch to a new pen anyway.

So it could be just a combination of changes that led to the problem for me.
  • 1. Splitting the dose doubled the error caused by the leak after reaching zero
  • 2. When counting 1 to 10 I recently switched to counting one thousand, two thousand ... up to ten thousand as I thought I was rushing through the 1 to 10 !
  • 3. Probably pressing harder now on the end when counting - because dose is tiny and didn;t want to lose any of it (just 4 and 4 units)

With regards to pressing down when counting,the Lantus Solostar instruction sheet does say that: ".... Keep the injection button pressed all the way in. Slowly count to 10 before you withdraw the needle from the skin....."

Until I hear back from sanofi I will just make sure I do not press hard when counting to 10 and will not release and press again

I have taken some shots as well like you did and tried to get one on digitalarchive.org but appears one needs to be invited - so put it on flickr here
 
Mar 9, 2012
Alan Jock Ni... 19 posts

Topic: DAFNE Online Mobile / Download entries from site?

StarWarsCake said:
Hi

I am a new Dafne graduate and have this issue since downloading the iPhone app for the iphone4 using IOS 5.1.

It just hangs when trying to download the diary which is only a weeks worth of content.

I have done the usual checking my credentials and using over wifi only, also I have reinstalled the app.

Any help would be massively appreciated Smile



I gave up on downloading from the online diary to the iPhone as I am having the same problem as you.

It now works great the other way round, I now put all my results in the iPhone app and it auto uploads to the online diary.

I hope you find a solution.

Alan