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Mar 20, 2013

ketostix pla... 25 posts

Topic: General Discussion / Autoimmune Urticaria

I had terrible Urticaria (aka stinging nettle rash) for many years (approx 34years). Since going on the Dafne Regume this has cleared almost overnight, and I knowlonger take any form of Daily antihistamine, which I did for serveral years. I have contacted the Diabetic Association and Balance Magazine as I thought if symptoms of Urticaria are releived by Dafne (most likely due to the body only carrying the correct ammount of BI, and QA to what the body actually needs) should be highlighted or investigated to help others, as it has helped me. It is a terrible condition and gave me many years of embarrasment and uncomfort.

Mar 20, 2013

Mags2101 4 posts

Topic: General Discussion / Unexplained high bg

Will record online and share, have already increased BI

Mar 20, 2013

JayBee 587 posts

Topic: General Discussion / 7-day waking average

4.4 BG this morning. Things have been going great since I applied some changes to my carb counting, I suspect these good morning results will continue to happen more regularly. Smile

Yay!

Mar 20, 2013

JayBee 587 posts

Topic: General Discussion / New Blood Test Device

Wow. This will be very helpful if they find it works successfully.. bet it won't be long before it's included as standard part of pump kits too. Smile

Mar 20, 2013

mum2westiesGill 502 posts

Topic: General Discussion / 7-day waking average

11.2 - bedtime
5.2 - this morning

- 19.03pm - tea & QA
- 22.41pm - bedtime test was done
- supper was sandwich 3 butter puffs
- 6.48am - before this morning's test was hypo 3.7 treated with 4 jelly babies

Mar 20, 2013

jackyperky 3 posts

Topic: General Discussion / New Blood Test Device

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/health-21841829 what does everyone think of this?

Mar 20, 2013

Warwick 426 posts

Topic: General Discussion / Unexplained high bg

It sounds like your BI need to increase. Are you able to post again and share your diary for the last week or so? It will help us to help you.

Thanks,
Warwick.

Mar 20, 2013

Mags2101 4 posts

Topic: General Discussion / Unexplained high bg

I always test by blood, no sign of ketones but still high! Haven't had single figures for 3 weeks

Mar 20, 2013

Warwick 426 posts

Topic: Carbohydrate Counting / Carb counting & how to lose weight?

Hi Numo,

Welcome to the club :-)

I think that the book will be extremely helpful to you as it deals with different types of exercise including yoga, and how to expect your BGs to behave during and after yoga and how to dose for that. Your experience of going high before a yoga class to lower the risk of a hypo is a common strategy, but Ginger goes into how to take care of this without doing that, or hypoing. As with all experiments, there may be a couple of unwanted outcomes, but in general, you should be able to get on top of this quite quickly.

I have set up the new forum thread here:

http://dafneonline.co.uk/forums/1/topics/2098

If you send me your email address via private message, I will send through electronic copies of the notes that I received on the diabetic exercise conference. They are good, but I think the book is even better. Some of the lectures were taken by Gary Scheiner who wrote the foreword of Ginger's book, and is the author of "Think Like a Pancreas" which is my next read.

Cheers,
Warwick.

Mar 20, 2013

Warwick 426 posts

Topic: General Discussion / Your Diabetes Science Experiment - Experiment 1

WARNING: Long post follows!

BACKGROUND

I have recently been reading Your Diabetes Science Experiment by Ginger Viera (available from Amazon) ISBN 9781481062008. It is highly recommended as it reinforces DAFNE principles, but also goes further in depth and is especially aimed at type 1 diabetics who exercise and want better control of their blood glucose levels before, during and after exercise. The paperback edition appears to be in a better format than the Kindle edition according to the reviews for those interested in purchasing this book.

Along with in-depth knowledge, the book also has a number of experiments to determine correct dosage of BI and QA. The experiments deal with:

General background insulin doses.
Insulin to carb ratios
Correction factors
Dosing for Exercise.

The general idea is that BI doses, insulin to carb ratios, correction factors etc can all change depending on time of year, body weight, stress levels, type of exercise, menstrual cycles, sickness, types of food, amount of food etc.

Based on the fact that another DAFNE graduate and I have found this book so helpful in managing our recent blood glucose levels, we thought that it would be a good idea to start a new forum thread for each of the experiments to get feedback on them, see if they work, and encourage each other in getting the best results out of each experiment.

Experiment 1:

The goal is to identify if the BI dose is appropriate for a specific period of time. This experiment will involve a fast of 7 hours. (The test is for a period of up to 5 hours and begins 2 hours after the last meal making 7 hours in total.)

1) Choose a period of time to test your BI. It could be a time that you find troublesome with regular unexplained highs or lows.

E.g:

Midnight to 5 am
5 a.m to 10 a.m.
10 a.m. to 3 p.m.
3 p.m. to 8 p.m.
8 p.m. to 1 a.m.

2) Test your BGs at the start of the period. Remember that the start of the period should be at least 2 hours after the previous meal.

3) Test your BGs at the end of the period. Stop the experiment early if you hypo or you find that your BGs are rising too high during the experiment and you need to take QA.

Important notes:

1) No exercise other than normal daily activity should occur during this 5 hour period.

2) The time frame for actual testing should not be more than 5 hours.

3) The experiment should not happen with two days of changing a BI dose from its regular dosage.

4) The experiment begins 2 hours after the previous meal.

5) BI dose changes should not be more than 10% of the dosage as per DAFNE guidelines.

6) If QA has to be given during the experiment because of high BGLs, then it is void, and a retest needs be done at a later time.

7) Be prepared for lows and have quick acting carbs available for lows and hypos.

The goal is to see if the BI remains relatively constant. If it increases during the period, then an increase in BI may be indicated. We can discuss ways of checking this if this happens. If BGs significantly drop during this period, then it may indicate that BI is too high.

If you want to take part in this experiment, can you please reply to this post stating:

Times of experiment start and end.
BGs at start and end of experiment.
Whether you needed to take carbs or QA during the experiment.
What type of BI you take and when (note, pump users are welcome too - just put what your basal rate is at the time of the experiment).
Anything else that you think may be relevant to the results observed - e.g heavy day of exercise the day previously etc.

I hope to run this experiment at the weekend. Unfortunately I am following sick-day rules at the moment and have had to change BI for that, but hopefully I'll be back to normal by the weekend.

Thanks,
Warwick.

Mar 19, 2013

JayBee 587 posts

Topic: Carbohydrate Counting / Carb counting & how to lose weight?

How exciting! It's going to be good to have us all bouncing ideas!

I haven't even started on the exercise stuff yet, but before applying the information I gained from this book, I used to struggle to keep my levels stable and sometimes I would have no idea where a result came from - this was despite strict carb counting and recognised good understanding of DAFNE principles. I'd hit a wall but now I've learnt how to deal with additional information involving protein and fibre, my levels have improved so much so quickly, it is not even funny.

I really look forward to the thread. If my above issus are common, I think the DAFNE course in the UK at least needs some adjustment. People need to know this information.

Mar 19, 2013

mum2westiesGill 502 posts

Topic: General Discussion / 7-day waking average

4.9 - bedtime
6.3 - this morning

- 18.26pm - tea & QA
- 22.41pm - hypo 3.0 treated with 4 jelly babies
- 23.00pm - bedtime test was done
- supper was sandwich 2 slices/skips

Mar 19, 2013

NuMo 28 posts

Topic: Carbohydrate Counting / Carb counting & how to lose weight?

I also ordered the book on JWo and Warwick's recommendation and am hoping it will arrive today. I think Amazon will have noticed the interest!

I am very interested in your conference on diabetes and excerise Warwick. I am finding it very hard to balance Bg, excerise and weight gain. I was still teaching my evening classes (Yoga) whilst on the Dafne course and had a hypo during one of them. This has made me very cautious, and I tend to leave my Bg high before class hoping to survive that and have enough left to drive home afterwards ( I don't fancy sitting in an iced-up car awaiting a legal level). I can't think this is right, but have yet to find a balance.

I would very much like to join your thread when you set it up.

Mar 19, 2013

Warwick 426 posts

Topic: Carbohydrate Counting / Carb counting & how to lose weight?

Will set up the new forum thread soon. The first experiment is on testing BI doses, but I have a cold, and so my BGLs aren't being nice to me right now, so it will be in a couple of days I think.

Warwick.

Mar 18, 2013

JayBee 587 posts

Topic: Carbohydrate Counting / Carb counting & how to lose weight?

Great stuff marke! Will be good to know your thoughts on the book too. Smile

Mar 18, 2013

marke 686 posts

Topic: Carbohydrate Counting / Carb counting & how to lose weight?

Just ordered the book too, I like experiments Very Happy

and reading the extract on amazon it seems to be an interesting read by someone who has experienced it first hand !


Mar 20, 2013 ketostix pla... 25 posts	Topic: General Discussion / Autoimmune Urticaria I had terrible Urticaria (aka stinging nettle rash) for many years (approx 34years). Since going on the Dafne Regume this has cleared almost overnight, and I knowlonger take any form of Daily antihistamine, which I did for serveral years. I have contacted the Diabetic Association and Balance Magazine as I thought if symptoms of Urticaria are releived by Dafne (most likely due to the body only carrying the correct ammount of BI, and QA to what the body actually needs) should be highlighted or investigated to help others, as it has helped me. It is a terrible condition and gave me many years of embarrasment and uncomfort.

Mar 20, 2013 Mags2101 4 posts	Topic: General Discussion / Unexplained high bg Will record online and share, have already increased BI

Mar 20, 2013 JayBee 587 posts	Topic: General Discussion / 7-day waking average 4.4 BG this morning. Things have been going great since I applied some changes to my carb counting, I suspect these good morning results will continue to happen more regularly. Yay!

Mar 20, 2013 JayBee 587 posts	Topic: General Discussion / New Blood Test Device Wow. This will be very helpful if they find it works successfully.. bet it won't be long before it's included as standard part of pump kits too.

Mar 20, 2013 mum2westiesGill 502 posts	Topic: General Discussion / 7-day waking average 11.2 - bedtime 5.2 - this morning - 19.03pm - tea & QA - 22.41pm - bedtime test was done - supper was sandwich 3 butter puffs - 6.48am - before this morning's test was hypo 3.7 treated with 4 jelly babies

Mar 20, 2013 jackyperky 3 posts	Topic: General Discussion / New Blood Test Device http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/health-21841829 what does everyone think of this?

Mar 20, 2013 Warwick 426 posts	Topic: General Discussion / Unexplained high bg It sounds like your BI need to increase. Are you able to post again and share your diary for the last week or so? It will help us to help you. Thanks, Warwick.

Mar 20, 2013 Mags2101 4 posts	Topic: General Discussion / Unexplained high bg I always test by blood, no sign of ketones but still high! Haven't had single figures for 3 weeks

Mar 20, 2013 Warwick 426 posts	Topic: Carbohydrate Counting / Carb counting & how to lose weight? Hi Numo, Welcome to the club :-) I think that the book will be extremely helpful to you as it deals with different types of exercise including yoga, and how to expect your BGs to behave during and after yoga and how to dose for that. Your experience of going high before a yoga class to lower the risk of a hypo is a common strategy, but Ginger goes into how to take care of this without doing that, or hypoing. As with all experiments, there may be a couple of unwanted outcomes, but in general, you should be able to get on top of this quite quickly. I have set up the new forum thread here: http://dafneonline.co.uk/forums/1/topics/2098 If you send me your email address via private message, I will send through electronic copies of the notes that I received on the diabetic exercise conference. They are good, but I think the book is even better. Some of the lectures were taken by Gary Scheiner who wrote the foreword of Ginger's book, and is the author of "Think Like a Pancreas" which is my next read. Cheers, Warwick.

Mar 20, 2013 Warwick 426 posts	Topic: General Discussion / Your Diabetes Science Experiment - Experiment 1 WARNING: Long post follows! BACKGROUND I have recently been reading Your Diabetes Science Experiment by Ginger Viera (available from Amazon) ISBN 9781481062008. It is highly recommended as it reinforces DAFNE principles, but also goes further in depth and is especially aimed at type 1 diabetics who exercise and want better control of their blood glucose levels before, during and after exercise. The paperback edition appears to be in a better format than the Kindle edition according to the reviews for those interested in purchasing this book. Along with in-depth knowledge, the book also has a number of experiments to determine correct dosage of BI and QA. The experiments deal with: General background insulin doses. Insulin to carb ratios Correction factors Dosing for Exercise. The general idea is that BI doses, insulin to carb ratios, correction factors etc can all change depending on time of year, body weight, stress levels, type of exercise, menstrual cycles, sickness, types of food, amount of food etc. Based on the fact that another DAFNE graduate and I have found this book so helpful in managing our recent blood glucose levels, we thought that it would be a good idea to start a new forum thread for each of the experiments to get feedback on them, see if they work, and encourage each other in getting the best results out of each experiment. Experiment 1: The goal is to identify if the BI dose is appropriate for a specific period of time. This experiment will involve a fast of 7 hours. (The test is for a period of up to 5 hours and begins 2 hours after the last meal making 7 hours in total.) 1) Choose a period of time to test your BI. It could be a time that you find troublesome with regular unexplained highs or lows. E.g: Midnight to 5 am 5 a.m to 10 a.m. 10 a.m. to 3 p.m. 3 p.m. to 8 p.m. 8 p.m. to 1 a.m. 2) Test your BGs at the start of the period. Remember that the start of the period should be at least 2 hours after the previous meal. 3) Test your BGs at the end of the period. Stop the experiment early if you hypo or you find that your BGs are rising too high during the experiment and you need to take QA. Important notes: 1) No exercise other than normal daily activity should occur during this 5 hour period. 2) The time frame for actual testing should not be more than 5 hours. 3) The experiment should not happen with two days of changing a BI dose from its regular dosage. 4) The experiment begins 2 hours after the previous meal. 5) BI dose changes should not be more than 10% of the dosage as per DAFNE guidelines. 6) If QA has to be given during the experiment because of high BGLs, then it is void, and a retest needs be done at a later time. 7) Be prepared for lows and have quick acting carbs available for lows and hypos. The goal is to see if the BI remains relatively constant. If it increases during the period, then an increase in BI may be indicated. We can discuss ways of checking this if this happens. If BGs significantly drop during this period, then it may indicate that BI is too high. If you want to take part in this experiment, can you please reply to this post stating: Times of experiment start and end. BGs at start and end of experiment. Whether you needed to take carbs or QA during the experiment. What type of BI you take and when (note, pump users are welcome too - just put what your basal rate is at the time of the experiment). Anything else that you think may be relevant to the results observed - e.g heavy day of exercise the day previously etc. I hope to run this experiment at the weekend. Unfortunately I am following sick-day rules at the moment and have had to change BI for that, but hopefully I'll be back to normal by the weekend. Thanks, Warwick.

Mar 19, 2013 JayBee 587 posts	Topic: Carbohydrate Counting / Carb counting & how to lose weight? How exciting! It's going to be good to have us all bouncing ideas! I haven't even started on the exercise stuff yet, but before applying the information I gained from this book, I used to struggle to keep my levels stable and sometimes I would have no idea where a result came from - this was despite strict carb counting and recognised good understanding of DAFNE principles. I'd hit a wall but now I've learnt how to deal with additional information involving protein and fibre, my levels have improved so much so quickly, it is not even funny. I really look forward to the thread. If my above issus are common, I think the DAFNE course in the UK at least needs some adjustment. People need to know this information.

Mar 19, 2013 mum2westiesGill 502 posts	Topic: General Discussion / 7-day waking average 4.9 - bedtime 6.3 - this morning - 18.26pm - tea & QA - 22.41pm - hypo 3.0 treated with 4 jelly babies - 23.00pm - bedtime test was done - supper was sandwich 2 slices/skips

Mar 19, 2013 NuMo 28 posts	Topic: Carbohydrate Counting / Carb counting & how to lose weight? I also ordered the book on JWo and Warwick's recommendation and am hoping it will arrive today. I think Amazon will have noticed the interest! I am very interested in your conference on diabetes and excerise Warwick. I am finding it very hard to balance Bg, excerise and weight gain. I was still teaching my evening classes (Yoga) whilst on the Dafne course and had a hypo during one of them. This has made me very cautious, and I tend to leave my Bg high before class hoping to survive that and have enough left to drive home afterwards ( I don't fancy sitting in an iced-up car awaiting a legal level). I can't think this is right, but have yet to find a balance. I would very much like to join your thread when you set it up.

Mar 19, 2013 Warwick 426 posts	Topic: Carbohydrate Counting / Carb counting & how to lose weight? Will set up the new forum thread soon. The first experiment is on testing BI doses, but I have a cold, and so my BGLs aren't being nice to me right now, so it will be in a couple of days I think. Warwick.

Mar 18, 2013 JayBee 587 posts	Topic: Carbohydrate Counting / Carb counting & how to lose weight? Great stuff marke! Will be good to know your thoughts on the book too.

Mar 18, 2013 marke 686 posts	Topic: Carbohydrate Counting / Carb counting & how to lose weight? Just ordered the book too, I like experiments and reading the extract on amazon it seems to be an interesting read by someone who has experienced it first hand !