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Mar 6, 2013

Deadly 8 posts

Topic: General Discussion / Medicines diabetics are not meant to take

For cough mixtures I have always ended up using Robitussin, simply because it advertises as sugar free. Not sure it is has actual effect or not ( it alleges to help loosen stubborn phlegm on chesty coughs to make the cough more productive). I take it because of the comfort of taking at least something that might have an effect on my cold.

Mar 6, 2013

sheila24 3 posts

Topic: General Discussion / Advise on pump please

Many thanks for replies,
I feel the same as you PNThomson, and said I would consider the pump as last resort but I have been advised to seriously consider its use as may help me manage my sensitivity to insulin and help prevent my frequent low bgs. My head is spinning with all the information I have taken on board so far and it is good to hear how well people are doing on the pumps.

Its good to hear all the positives about the pump novorapidboi26, to be honest I think what is putting me off more than anything is the constant reminder with the pump being attached all the time, but I suppose it is something I would manage to get over through time. It would be worth it if it helps, my poor children are fed up with being kept waiting for mums bg getting back to normal Very Happy

. If you don't mind me asking do you need to cover any of the cost for the basic running of the pump or is it all covered with prescriptions? Also did you have a choice in which pump to use or is that decided for you?

Mar 6, 2013

meltow 78 posts

Topic: General Discussion / Medicines diabetics are not meant to take

When it comes to "off-the-shelf" cold/flu remedies the only product I've found which says can be taken by diabetics is Disprin. Fortunately I'm not a big sufferer, but if any other similar products are suitable for diabetics, it may be nice to know. So, what do you take? Confused

Mar 6, 2013

novorapidboi26 1,819 posts

Topic: General Discussion / 7-day waking average

whiskysmum said:
novorapidboi26 said:

Why the sad face?

Because of the difference - 10.0 then 7.2! How much should the difference be?

1-2 mmol/l is usually a good indication the dose is right........you know its pretty much spot on now though........if you focus on getting it spot on every day you will do your self damage...sometimes there can be changes that we can help or do anything about.....

Mar 6, 2013

mum2westiesGill 502 posts

Topic: General Discussion / 7-day waking average

novorapidboi26 said:

Why the sad face?

Because of the difference - 10.0 then 7.2! How much should the difference be?

Mar 6, 2013

novorapidboi26 1,819 posts

Topic: General Discussion / 7-day waking average

whiskysmum said:
10.0 - bedtime
7.2 - this morning

- 19.09pm - tea & QA
- 23.21pm - bedtime test was done & before having supper instead of after
- supper was butter puffs 4 x

Why the sad face?

Mar 6, 2013

mum2westiesGill 502 posts

Topic: General Discussion / 7-day waking average

10.0 - bedtime
7.2 - this morning
Crying or Very sad

- 19.09pm - tea & QA
- 23.21pm - bedtime test was done & before having supper instead of after
- supper was butter puffs 4 x

Mar 5, 2013

Beatriz 8 posts

Topic: General Discussion / Up date!

Hi Kylie & Vanessa. For some reason with would not up load yesterday. This morning is now not up loading.

cheers
Beatriz

Mar 5, 2013

PNThompson 57 posts

Topic: General Discussion / Advise on pump please

I have not gone on to the pump, though DAFNE was supposed to be the first step before changing the a pump.
I have found the DAFNE course a big help and the doctors said that I did not need to consider the pump if I was not interested.

Two people from the course went on to a pump while a third has tried to get on a pump but has been refused, though his control is very bad and that is why he has been rejected.

I didn't fancy using the pump, but from what I have read, people who have gone on to a pump have found it very good.

Mar 5, 2013

novorapidboi26 1,819 posts

Topic: General Discussion / Advise on pump please

I have just recently went on the pump and its amazing, I need large amounts, so my problem isn't the smaller dose delivery........I benefit from the different QA delivery methods, and the more effective BI delivery...........

The pump would make your problem so much more manageable........

Another advantage I have experienced is weight loss..........injecting insulin is only 50% effective, so half the dose isn't getting used up, which makes its easier for the encouragement of fat storage....I am now on half the insulin, its amazing............I realize that any less and you would be cured..... Very Happy

.....but you can see my point......

I suppose for some it may be hard to accommodate the pump during day to day life, but for most its easy, almost undetectable, it just clips on to your belt/bra..........and there are holders you can buy that increase the available sites..............

I suppose for woman, going to the loo may be a pain if your wearing trousers and have it attached to your belt.......

It really is non invasive, but I personally think that the benefits out weight the nuisance, and its only a nuisance for the first week......

On most pumps there is a bolus wizard for your QA needs, you can program in your ratios, sensitivity, corrections and so on, so all you need to do is test your blood....(which can then be sent wirelessly to the pump)....and put in the carb amount........(input as grams as opposed to CPs)...and the pump works out the dose for you, confirm with a push of a button.....DONE.........

the dose adjustment is still the same as DAFNE, so looking for patterns over 2 - 3 days etc.........

I could go on for longer, but if you have any other questions don't hesitate...........

Mar 5, 2013

Vickyp 137 posts

Topic: General Discussion / Medicines diabetics are not meant to take

I think they cause your sugars to rise as glucose is released into blood stream when using these...just our body's reaction to the medication (similar to an adrenaline rush)
Probably safe to take but check sugar levels before/after use and stop use if need be.
Am not a doctor but think this is right!

Mar 5, 2013

JayBee 587 posts

Topic: General Discussion / Medicines diabetics are not meant to take

Sugar does not always have to be present to have an effect on your sugar levels because of hormones, etc. May be something like that.

Hope you're feeling alright; get well soon if not.

Mar 5, 2013

Deadly 8 posts

Topic: General Discussion / Medicines diabetics are not meant to take

Hi All

I am a type 1 diabetic

I just got some Contac which is a decongestant cold/flu remedy. But the leaflet says diabetics shouldn't use it. Any ideas why? There is no sugar.n it, which is the usual reason for non-use.

Ideas welcome

Thanks
David

Mar 5, 2013

sheila24 3 posts

Topic: General Discussion / Advise on pump please

Hi,
Ive had diabetes for 38 years now, no major complications as yet thank goodness. Done dafne course last year and what a difference it has made, feel as if I am back in control after many years of guess work. My problem is I am on very small amounts of insulin, 3u of BI twice daily and 0.5:1 ratio breakfast and lunch, 1:1 ratio for dinner. Even with these small amounts bg can fall, it has been recommended that I should consider the pump. I was hoping to hear from anyone who has had experience with the pump, advantages and disadvantages etc. How do you manage with day to day tasks and do you find carrying the pump around a hinderence or can you forget about it through time
How easy is it to calculate insulin requirements on the pump compared to dafne rules or are they much the same.
Many thanks in advance for any help given.

Mar 5, 2013

mum2westiesGill 502 posts

Topic: General Discussion / 7-day waking average

5.2 - bedtime
5.2 - this morning
Smile

- 19.47pm - tea & QA
- 23.14pm - bedtime test was done & before having supper instead of after
- supper was butter puffs 4 x

- 22.54pm - 2.2 - hypo - no idea what caused this, had jelly babies 4 x

Mar 4, 2013

Garry 328 posts

Topic: General Discussion / Diary

Try and enter everything..especially if you are taking QA with it. Did you mean you were thinking of upping your BI?
Regards
Garry

Mar 4, 2013

Lisaraby 15 posts

Topic: General Discussion / Diary

Hi guys
Yes I've just realised I've missed some of the cps will put that right, I do only tend to eat around tea time, sometimes I will have stuff during the day.
If I have a snack say apple should I put that in with the cp and qa I have been taking qa with snacks
Also at the moment I'm not overly concerned about the reds as this is only my third week so I'm still tweaking here and there I was thinking of upping my nighttime bg

Mar 4, 2013

Garry 328 posts

Topic: General Discussion / Diary

Please fill out all details Lisaraby. We are unable to help without the information needed.
Remember you can go back into each entry and edit it by hovering the cursor over the time and clicking it when underlined.
Some reds in there but nothing drastic.
Keep it going.
Regards
Garry

Mar 4, 2013

Warwick 425 posts

Topic: General Discussion / BACKGROUND INSULIN

Cool. That is interesting to know. :-)

Mar 4, 2013

Warwick 425 posts

Topic: General Discussion / Diary

Are you doing carb-free days? I'm not seeing much in the CP row. Going low or no-carb can be quite dangerous. You may or may not have been told on your DAFNE course that you ideally need at least 130 g of carb each day (13 CPs). It may just be that you have forgotten to record it, but if not, then I'd suggest having a chat with a dietician, because a certain amount of carbs are essential. Without them, you run a very real risk of ketoacidocis as the body will use protein for fuel rather than its preferred source of fuel - carbs.

Other than that, it looks quite good. You have a lot of stability there - they are running a bit high, but a couple of units of extra BI would probably solve that.

Cheers,
Warwick.

Mar 4, 2013

mum2westiesGill 502 posts

Topic: General Discussion / My Blood Glucose Diary - all comments welcomed!

Any comments/thoughts please on the last 5 days results
Thu 28/02 - Mon (so far) 04/03

Mar 4, 2013

mum2westiesGill 502 posts

Topic: General Discussion / 7-day waking average

4.1 - bedtime
11.1 - this morning

- 18.39pm - tea & QA
- 22.16pm - BI taken
- 22.28pm - bedtime test was done & before having supper instead of after
- supper was sandwich 2 slices

Mar 4, 2013

Lisaraby 15 posts

Topic: General Discussion / Diary

Hi
Just an update on my diary
I think im going in the right direction

Mar 4, 2013

novorapidboi26 1,819 posts

Topic: General Discussion / BACKGROUND INSULIN

I was always good at rotating sites when injecting, so my breakfast would be my right thigh, lunch my left, dinner my stomach, supper my bum....not always as strict as that I suppose.....

The science wasn't explained thoroughly but I understood it was down to the delivery, so instead of putting your dose straight in to one spot, the pump delivers it much slower, allowing for each unit to be absorbed before delivering the next one.....this is more so the case for the basal, as the total daily dose is split in to x amount of units an hour, which is then slit again by 6, so delivering a burst every 10 minutes......this kind of delivery can also be done with the bolus by using the dual and square wave functions.....but even when using a normal bolus, so all up front if you like it's still pumped in over 3-4 minutes.....

It's this delivery method which increases the efficiency from 50 odd percent to 90 odd....

Mar 3, 2013

Warwick 425 posts

Topic: General Discussion / BACKGROUND INSULIN

novorapidboi26 said:

Injecting is only 50% effective.....shocking...

Perhaps the rotation of sites wasn't as good as it is now that you are using the pump? Using a pump helps to rotate the site more effectively. It is very easy to inject into the same places without really noticing, and that does lead to reduced insulin absorption. I do find myself injecting into the same convenient places, especially when I need to inject in public and want to keep it fairly private.

I listened to a pump specialist over the weekend, and he demonstrated how when the infusion set is changed, the new one should be placed close to the old one while the old one is in place so that you don't reattach to the same point, and then the old one can be removed. You would then work up the abdomen/back until you run out of abdomen/back to attach to, and then start again at the beginning. No doubt you have been told all of this before though :-)

Mar 6, 2013 Deadly 8 posts	Topic: General Discussion / Medicines diabetics are not meant to take For cough mixtures I have always ended up using Robitussin, simply because it advertises as sugar free. Not sure it is has actual effect or not ( it alleges to help loosen stubborn phlegm on chesty coughs to make the cough more productive). I take it because of the comfort of taking at least something that might have an effect on my cold.

Mar 6, 2013 sheila24 3 posts	Topic: General Discussion / Advise on pump please Many thanks for replies, I feel the same as you PNThomson, and said I would consider the pump as last resort but I have been advised to seriously consider its use as may help me manage my sensitivity to insulin and help prevent my frequent low bgs. My head is spinning with all the information I have taken on board so far and it is good to hear how well people are doing on the pumps. Its good to hear all the positives about the pump novorapidboi26, to be honest I think what is putting me off more than anything is the constant reminder with the pump being attached all the time, but I suppose it is something I would manage to get over through time. It would be worth it if it helps, my poor children are fed up with being kept waiting for mums bg getting back to normal . If you don't mind me asking do you need to cover any of the cost for the basic running of the pump or is it all covered with prescriptions? Also did you have a choice in which pump to use or is that decided for you?

Mar 6, 2013 meltow 78 posts	Topic: General Discussion / Medicines diabetics are not meant to take When it comes to "off-the-shelf" cold/flu remedies the only product I've found which says can be taken by diabetics is Disprin. Fortunately I'm not a big sufferer, but if any other similar products are suitable for diabetics, it may be nice to know. So, what do you take?

Mar 6, 2013 novorapidboi26 1,819 posts	Topic: General Discussion / 7-day waking average whiskysmum said: novorapidboi26 said: Why the sad face? Because of the difference - 10.0 then 7.2! How much should the difference be? 1-2 mmol/l is usually a good indication the dose is right........you know its pretty much spot on now though........if you focus on getting it spot on every day you will do your self damage...sometimes there can be changes that we can help or do anything about.....

Mar 6, 2013 mum2westiesGill 502 posts	Topic: General Discussion / 7-day waking average novorapidboi26 said: Why the sad face? Because of the difference - 10.0 then 7.2! How much should the difference be?

Mar 6, 2013 novorapidboi26 1,819 posts	Topic: General Discussion / 7-day waking average whiskysmum said: 10.0 - bedtime 7.2 - this morning - 19.09pm - tea & QA - 23.21pm - bedtime test was done & before having supper instead of after - supper was butter puffs 4 x Why the sad face?

Mar 6, 2013 mum2westiesGill 502 posts	Topic: General Discussion / 7-day waking average 10.0 - bedtime 7.2 - this morning - 19.09pm - tea & QA - 23.21pm - bedtime test was done & before having supper instead of after - supper was butter puffs 4 x

Mar 5, 2013 Beatriz 8 posts	Topic: General Discussion / Up date! Hi Kylie & Vanessa. For some reason with would not up load yesterday. This morning is now not up loading. cheers Beatriz

Mar 5, 2013 PNThompson 57 posts	Topic: General Discussion / Advise on pump please I have not gone on to the pump, though DAFNE was supposed to be the first step before changing the a pump. I have found the DAFNE course a big help and the doctors said that I did not need to consider the pump if I was not interested. Two people from the course went on to a pump while a third has tried to get on a pump but has been refused, though his control is very bad and that is why he has been rejected. I didn't fancy using the pump, but from what I have read, people who have gone on to a pump have found it very good.

Mar 5, 2013 novorapidboi26 1,819 posts	Topic: General Discussion / Advise on pump please I have just recently went on the pump and its amazing, I need large amounts, so my problem isn't the smaller dose delivery........I benefit from the different QA delivery methods, and the more effective BI delivery........... The pump would make your problem so much more manageable........ Another advantage I have experienced is weight loss..........injecting insulin is only 50% effective, so half the dose isn't getting used up, which makes its easier for the encouragement of fat storage....I am now on half the insulin, its amazing............I realize that any less and you would be cured..... .....but you can see my point...... I suppose for some it may be hard to accommodate the pump during day to day life, but for most its easy, almost undetectable, it just clips on to your belt/bra..........and there are holders you can buy that increase the available sites.............. I suppose for woman, going to the loo may be a pain if your wearing trousers and have it attached to your belt....... It really is non invasive, but I personally think that the benefits out weight the nuisance, and its only a nuisance for the first week...... On most pumps there is a bolus wizard for your QA needs, you can program in your ratios, sensitivity, corrections and so on, so all you need to do is test your blood....(which can then be sent wirelessly to the pump)....and put in the carb amount........(input as grams as opposed to CPs)...and the pump works out the dose for you, confirm with a push of a button.....DONE......... the dose adjustment is still the same as DAFNE, so looking for patterns over 2 - 3 days etc......... I could go on for longer, but if you have any other questions don't hesitate...........

Mar 5, 2013 Vickyp 137 posts	Topic: General Discussion / Medicines diabetics are not meant to take I think they cause your sugars to rise as glucose is released into blood stream when using these...just our body's reaction to the medication (similar to an adrenaline rush) Probably safe to take but check sugar levels before/after use and stop use if need be. Am not a doctor but think this is right!

Mar 5, 2013 JayBee 587 posts	Topic: General Discussion / Medicines diabetics are not meant to take Sugar does not always have to be present to have an effect on your sugar levels because of hormones, etc. May be something like that. Hope you're feeling alright; get well soon if not.

Mar 5, 2013 Deadly 8 posts	Topic: General Discussion / Medicines diabetics are not meant to take Hi All I am a type 1 diabetic I just got some Contac which is a decongestant cold/flu remedy. But the leaflet says diabetics shouldn't use it. Any ideas why? There is no sugar.n it, which is the usual reason for non-use. Ideas welcome Thanks David

Mar 5, 2013 sheila24 3 posts	Topic: General Discussion / Advise on pump please Hi, Ive had diabetes for 38 years now, no major complications as yet thank goodness. Done dafne course last year and what a difference it has made, feel as if I am back in control after many years of guess work. My problem is I am on very small amounts of insulin, 3u of BI twice daily and 0.5:1 ratio breakfast and lunch, 1:1 ratio for dinner. Even with these small amounts bg can fall, it has been recommended that I should consider the pump. I was hoping to hear from anyone who has had experience with the pump, advantages and disadvantages etc. How do you manage with day to day tasks and do you find carrying the pump around a hinderence or can you forget about it through time How easy is it to calculate insulin requirements on the pump compared to dafne rules or are they much the same. Many thanks in advance for any help given.

Mar 5, 2013 mum2westiesGill 502 posts	Topic: General Discussion / 7-day waking average 5.2 - bedtime 5.2 - this morning - 19.47pm - tea & QA - 23.14pm - bedtime test was done & before having supper instead of after - supper was butter puffs 4 x - 22.54pm - 2.2 - hypo - no idea what caused this, had jelly babies 4 x

Mar 4, 2013 Garry 328 posts	Topic: General Discussion / Diary Try and enter everything..especially if you are taking QA with it. Did you mean you were thinking of upping your BI? Regards Garry

Mar 4, 2013 Lisaraby 15 posts	Topic: General Discussion / Diary Hi guys Yes I've just realised I've missed some of the cps will put that right, I do only tend to eat around tea time, sometimes I will have stuff during the day. If I have a snack say apple should I put that in with the cp and qa I have been taking qa with snacks Also at the moment I'm not overly concerned about the reds as this is only my third week so I'm still tweaking here and there I was thinking of upping my nighttime bg

Mar 4, 2013 Garry 328 posts	Topic: General Discussion / Diary Please fill out all details Lisaraby. We are unable to help without the information needed. Remember you can go back into each entry and edit it by hovering the cursor over the time and clicking it when underlined. Some reds in there but nothing drastic. Keep it going. Regards Garry

Mar 4, 2013 Warwick 425 posts	Topic: General Discussion / BACKGROUND INSULIN Cool. That is interesting to know. :-)

Mar 4, 2013 Warwick 425 posts	Topic: General Discussion / Diary Are you doing carb-free days? I'm not seeing much in the CP row. Going low or no-carb can be quite dangerous. You may or may not have been told on your DAFNE course that you ideally need at least 130 g of carb each day (13 CPs). It may just be that you have forgotten to record it, but if not, then I'd suggest having a chat with a dietician, because a certain amount of carbs are essential. Without them, you run a very real risk of ketoacidocis as the body will use protein for fuel rather than its preferred source of fuel - carbs. Other than that, it looks quite good. You have a lot of stability there - they are running a bit high, but a couple of units of extra BI would probably solve that. Cheers, Warwick.

Mar 4, 2013 mum2westiesGill 502 posts	Topic: General Discussion / My Blood Glucose Diary - all comments welcomed! Any comments/thoughts please on the last 5 days results Thu 28/02 - Mon (so far) 04/03

Mar 4, 2013 mum2westiesGill 502 posts	Topic: General Discussion / 7-day waking average 4.1 - bedtime 11.1 - this morning - 18.39pm - tea & QA - 22.16pm - BI taken - 22.28pm - bedtime test was done & before having supper instead of after - supper was sandwich 2 slices

Mar 4, 2013 Lisaraby 15 posts	Topic: General Discussion / Diary Hi Just an update on my diary I think im going in the right direction

Mar 4, 2013 novorapidboi26 1,819 posts	Topic: General Discussion / BACKGROUND INSULIN I was always good at rotating sites when injecting, so my breakfast would be my right thigh, lunch my left, dinner my stomach, supper my bum....not always as strict as that I suppose..... The science wasn't explained thoroughly but I understood it was down to the delivery, so instead of putting your dose straight in to one spot, the pump delivers it much slower, allowing for each unit to be absorbed before delivering the next one.....this is more so the case for the basal, as the total daily dose is split in to x amount of units an hour, which is then slit again by 6, so delivering a burst every 10 minutes......this kind of delivery can also be done with the bolus by using the dual and square wave functions.....but even when using a normal bolus, so all up front if you like it's still pumped in over 3-4 minutes..... It's this delivery method which increases the efficiency from 50 odd percent to 90 odd....

Mar 3, 2013 Warwick 425 posts	Topic: General Discussion / BACKGROUND INSULIN novorapidboi26 said: Injecting is only 50% effective.....shocking... Perhaps the rotation of sites wasn't as good as it is now that you are using the pump? Using a pump helps to rotate the site more effectively. It is very easy to inject into the same places without really noticing, and that does lead to reduced insulin absorption. I do find myself injecting into the same convenient places, especially when I need to inject in public and want to keep it fairly private. I listened to a pump specialist over the weekend, and he demonstrated how when the infusion set is changed, the new one should be placed close to the old one while the old one is in place so that you don't reattach to the same point, and then the old one can be removed. You would then work up the abdomen/back until you run out of abdomen/back to attach to, and then start again at the beginning. No doubt you have been told all of this before though :-)