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Oct 13, 2014

HelenH 9 posts

I use an Accu-chec Aviva Expert BG Meter. I want to buy a kit bag to hold this, strips, multiclix fingerpricker, Novopen, needles etc. Any recommendations? None of those I've found online mention my meter.

Oct 13, 2014

Alan 49 284 posts

Topic: General Discussion / sugar in urine

Why would sugar in your urine affect you getting a C1 licence?

Oct 13, 2014

Mike_C 1 post

Topic: General Discussion / sugar in urine

doesn't your urin contain sugar when your blood glucose is above ~10mmols? How is your control?

Oct 12, 2014

marke 681 posts

Topic: General Discussion / Cyborg Times (new BG meter)

Day 5 ( sorry must have hibernated through day 4):
Well not a huge amount to report, however something that has been raised on other threads that is relevant here. That is that the meter seems to give readings different to my one touch i.e yesterday lunch time the one touch read 8.6 but the sensor said 11.0 , however this lunchtime the meter said 2.6 but the sensor said 3.8 both are low but the meter reading if correct means I really hypo treatment where as the sensor reading is suggesting I need to 'think' about eating something at least in the way I tend to react to lows. Either meter could be out of range but I have no way of telling which it is. At the moment I tend to 'trust' my one touch meter, since I have had it a few years and my HBa1C is within suggested range ( it was 7.0 last time). However the one touch is just giving me 4 readings a day so there is a huge difference in the amount of data collected. I know this is a big issue for a lot of people so If Abbott start talking to me I will ask the questions. On a normal meter you can get test solutions to verify to some degree the restults you get. How can this be done for a sensor that is inserted into your arm, all the meter ( reader) is doing is collecting data from the sensor. Its the sensor that needs the testing and how can you do that with it in your arm ? I will try to find out.
Until next time, Na-Nu, Na-Nu Very Happy

Oct 12, 2014

marke 681 posts

Topic: General Discussion / New Glucose testing system

Hi Alan, Firstly Abbott need to make a profit on these devices or they won't make any more, they are a business and like all the others are in it to make a profit. But getting back to the point Smile

, I'm not sure how often the device measures but the best granularity I can export is readings 15min apart. Its impossible to tell if the device records more than this and the meter and software only give access to 15min intervals. Reducing the rate that readings are taken won't make a difference I think because the limitation is the reliabilty of the sensor. This is attatched to the flesh and has a pin that sits under the skin, Abbott say the sensor is limited to 14 days because after that the readings become less reliable i.e not within the legal range that all BG measuring devices have to confirm to ( which are pretty lose anyway). I don't know if this is because the technology is new or its just not capable of working for long periods. I do know that there are other devices at the trial stage that are designed to last longer, however these have not got past the trial stage as yet so may never become available. I think the issue with all these devices is accuracy of reading long term, not the rate that they take readings at,

Oct 12, 2014

mum2westiesGill 502 posts

Topic: General Discussion / BG diary help please (mum2westiesGill diary)

Hi glen4,
Thank you for my reply/comment. Re altering my lunchtime & evening meal ratios could they both be done at the same time or am I best maybe altering the lunchtime one first then leave for a few days before altering the evening meal one?

Oct 12, 2014

Alan 49 284 posts

Topic: General Discussion / New Glucose testing system

I read somewhere that the sensor takes a reading every minute. If it did the reading every two minutes, would it last twice as long? This would make it more affordable - even for the NHS. Of course it would lower Abbott's profit margin.

Oct 12, 2014

Faulty Headl... 18 posts

Topic: General Discussion / Cyborg Times (new BG meter)

I doubt this device will be made accessible for blind and partially sighted diabetics so I can't get excited about this one. I can see how a proper CGM could help me, the ones which alarm to warn you of a low but fingers still crossed that perhaps the next generation one they will think about accessibility and I don't mean beeps and vibrations like the mobile system and pumps. I mean talking. Really nervous now about starting on my pump at end of year. Living on my own now and totally blind but NHS say they will only fund CGM's for special cases.

Oct 10, 2014

marke 681 posts

Topic: General Discussion / IBG STAR - reliable readings??

If you google 'blood glucose test strip accuracy' you will find loads on information about this. Although you may be used to a one touch (I use one as well Smile

) you have to understand that ANY blood testing system only has to be accurate to + or - 20% of the true value to be considered compliant with regulations. This means that what appear to be large variations in BG readings can still be considered 'accurate'. You also have to understand what you are seeing is effectively a best guess based on basic chemical reactions in an uncontrolled environment i.e you finger and where ever you happen to be when you do the tests.
I tried out a BG Star and agree its not as good as I thought, of course they have big problems now that apple have changed conenctors and their meters no longer convieniently fit to an iPhone. As for the accuracy it was different to my one touch but who can tell which one is really accurate and which one is not. Its what you are used to that you will tend to believe I guess, you just can't assume necessarily that it is correct, since the results are never truly correct.

Oct 10, 2014

marke 681 posts

Topic: General Discussion / Cyborg Times (new BG meter)

day 3 and the beat goes on:
Sensor still attached and causing no problems. The data it is collecting is causing me the problems though. After the first night when my BG soared over night, last night it bumped along around 3 and until about 5:30 when it started climbing to about 8 at 7am. So although there was some dawn phenomenon it was not like the night before. So more info tonight may help. The really interesting stuff is what happens between normal BG tests, all the stuff you don't normally see.
I have to say the only criticism I have at the moment is the PC software which is very rudimentary and not really that useful. It does provide reports that you can view and print and even save as pdf. However the number of reports is 7 ( plus one settings report), of which 3 are variations of the same report over a day, a week , a month. Of course you can't format any of them like a DAFNE log book that might be quite useful. I would like to see a lot more flexibilty in the reporting, I don't know if software for their other meters provides a better range of reports. Given the wealth of data being collected the ability to examine this data would be a lot more useful.
I will feed this back to Abbott if they reply to my email.

Oct 9, 2014

gessie 2 posts

Topic: General Discussion / IBG STAR - reliable readings??

Hi Mdadds,
Thanks for your post. It pretty much follows my own experience and reactions - although I never got in touch with BG directly - as I knew they would say that - what else could they say?!!
The numbers offered by the iBG system just didn't "feel right" to me as a user - and - as you say would lead to unreliable inputs of QA insulin to treat the given numbers etc.
I'd be interested to hear from anyone who does use the iBG Star mini-meter with their iPhone - there must be plenty of them out there - but who has grown to trust the readings that the machine is giving - and who isn't finding problems of say being late to recognise a hypo and overreacting by shooting too much QA to reverse an overly high reading.
Best regards - gessie

Oct 9, 2014

marke 681 posts

Topic: General Discussion / Cyborg Times (new BG meter)

day 2 in the cyborg house:
Well I have been wearing the sensor for over 24 hours now and to be honest often completely forget I have it attached. The only time is when I almost hit it on a door frame ! So thats why they recommend you wear it slightly on the back of your arm. Taking the readings is very simple, just press a button and hold it near the reader and it just works. Sadly my readings have been outside my target range today, but thats fine as it has shown me that my BG rose from about 3am last night until it hit 15 when I woke up. I dose adjusted as I have been doing and have watched my BG fall durign the morning and stay in range pretty much for the rest of the day. The most interesting thing is the apparent lack of spike post my lunch and dinner. Of course my BG went up but according to the meter it stayed below 8 the whole time ! I intend to change things tonight and see what happens to my BG's. Its really useful to be able to see what was happening overnight.
Being in IT, I only read the meter manual today after I had been using it. Turns out it has a built-in bolus calculator but this can only be enabled by a HCP with a special code, so I can't test that at the moment. I have of course installed the PC software and connected the meter. I'm a bit concerned to find that it only works with the meter connected and it doesn't seem to copy the meter readings to the PC. What happens if I loose the meter ? No readings to view Crying or Very sad

I have emailed Abbott to try to get contacts so I can ask about stuff like this and pass the information on. The funniest thing in the manual is the meter has a 'LO' warning, if you go below 2.2 it will just display 'Lo' and the advice is to contact your diabetes team immediately. Quite how they think you will do that whilst having a hypo is highly amusing, they obviously have not got someone to have a hypo and try this advice Very Happy

Well that will do for now, more tomorrow.
Oh one last thing it really is shower proof !

Oct 9, 2014

glen4 46 posts

Topic: General Discussion / BG diary help please (mum2westiesGill diary)

Your ratios at mid afternoon and your evening meal don't seem high enough! Try taking more insulin!? What about splitting your bi? Its evenly spread throughout the day. It seems to be short lived(running out in the daytime)!

Oct 8, 2014

marke 681 posts

Topic: General Discussion / New Glucose testing system

Hi, not as yet but I will be trying to get information and as and when I get it I will add it to the cyborg thread. As I said I have been told that the sensors currently cost Â£48. Generally I would expect this price to drop particularly if another company launches a similiar product to increase competition. I have no idea if this is likely as they will all keep things under wraps until they are launched.

Oct 8, 2014

wigworld 19 posts

Topic: General Discussion / New Glucose testing system

Decided to post here rather than on the new thread:
I was unable to squeeze any cost information out of Abbott when I phoned them, but they did say that the sensors could be bought individually, or that it would be possible to buy a subscription, so that they came automatically every month or every 3 months. Do you have any info on that?
Thanks,
David

Oct 8, 2014

marke 681 posts

Topic: General Discussion / New Glucose testing system

All I have started a new thread to record all the details of my Abbott Libre experiment. You can find it here

Oct 8, 2014

marke 681 posts

Topic: General Discussion / Cyborg Times (new BG meter)

greetings humans Wink

I am now a Diabetic Cyborg having been fitted with my Abbott FreeStyle Libre sensor today. I intend to use this thread to keep you up to date with my experiences with the device. Hoepfully it will help you to decide if the device is for you ! Currently the NHS is adamant they won't pay for the sensors which cost Â£48 and last 14 days. We won't get into the logic and justifications for this at the moment. Lets concentrate on the device itself.

Ok the 'reader' as they are calling it is a BG meter with a touch screen. It can take Freestyle Optium test strips and ketone strips so you can do 'normal' blood tests on it. Part of the reason for this is they make it clear that the sensor measures interstitial fluid and NOT blood, this is the stuff under your skin in the 'flesh'/'fat'. It can lag the BG readings of blood by upto 15 mins, so if you think you are having a hypo they recomend you do a BG test to compare. This is not unreasonable since it is doing 'continuous' testing and looking at trends.

The 'sensor' is a disk about 3cm in diameter with what looks like a pin in the middle. You have to fit it to your upper arm as that is the only location they have fully tested readings from. They recommend that it is slightly at the back of the arm so it doesn't get caught on things. So far I have had no problems with this. If you do accidentally remove the sensor you have to fit a new one you can't re-attach it.
Its supposed to be water proof ( to be verified) and is worn constantly for 14 days. The applicator is a bit like a big lancet device, you open the senser pack put it in the applicator and pushdown on the location you want to fit it. Despite nervousness you don't feel it attach at all !
Once attached you scan it with the reader which logs it and then waits 60 mins before it will start taking readings. This is apparently so
the sensor acclimatises to your body. After 60 mins you just hold the reader over the sensor and it automatically gets all the readings. You can do this through clothes, I did it through a t-shirt AND sweatshirt and it read no problem. It emits a tone to indicate it has made the reading. You can then look at all the readings on the meter.

I will go into the use of the meter reports and the PC upload tomorrow once I have built-up an amount of readings.

Oct 8, 2014

Rafa 99 posts

Topic: Carbohydrate Counting / Sweetcorn

Just found this thread. Have to say from experience i found for myself not to count sweetcorn. I had some yesterday for the first time in a long time and i was 13.2 three hours after but was back in range two hours later.

Oct 8, 2014

mum2westiesGill 502 posts

Topic: General Discussion / BG diary help please (mum2westiesGill diary)

A few more days of my diary.

Can anyone see any trends?

Any help in identifying trends and/or advice on how to improve my control would be greatly appreciated

Thank you

Oct 8, 2014

MBC 2 posts

Topic: General Discussion / sugar in urine

wigworld said:
Have you done a DAFNE course? How come you are testing urine rather than blood testing? Do you have type 1 or type 2 Diabetes?

HI IM TYPE 1, HAVE DONE THE DAFNE COURSE AND TEST MY BLOOD EVERY TIME DAFNE RECOMMENDS, THE URINE TEST IS DONE BY MY DOCTOR AND ITS A TEST THATS DONE BY THE C1 LICENCE CENTRE, THANKS FOR ANY HELP YOU CAN PROVIDE Confused

Oct 7, 2014

wigworld 19 posts

Topic: General Discussion / sugar in urine

Have you done a DAFNE course? How come you are testing urine rather than blood testing? Do you have type 1 or type 2 Diabetes?

Oct 7, 2014

MBC 2 posts

Topic: General Discussion / sugar in urine

hi, everyone im planning to go for my c1 licence but i still have sugar 3+++ in my urine, can anyone tell me how to reduce this as it may hinder my application, im sticking to my dafne routine and have lost weight and im kinda still insulin resisted, i dont eat junk food or drink none diet drinks, what am i doing wrong!!!! THANKYOU TO EVERYONE THAT CAN HELP ME Confused

Oct 13, 2014 HelenH 9 posts	Topic: General Discussion / Kit bags I use an Accu-chec Aviva Expert BG Meter. I want to buy a kit bag to hold this, strips, multiclix fingerpricker, Novopen, needles etc. Any recommendations? None of those I've found online mention my meter.

Oct 13, 2014 Alan 49 284 posts	Topic: General Discussion / sugar in urine Why would sugar in your urine affect you getting a C1 licence?

Oct 13, 2014 Mike_C 1 post	Topic: General Discussion / sugar in urine doesn't your urin contain sugar when your blood glucose is above ~10mmols? How is your control?

Oct 12, 2014 marke 681 posts	Topic: General Discussion / Cyborg Times (new BG meter) Day 5 ( sorry must have hibernated through day 4): Well not a huge amount to report, however something that has been raised on other threads that is relevant here. That is that the meter seems to give readings different to my one touch i.e yesterday lunch time the one touch read 8.6 but the sensor said 11.0 , however this lunchtime the meter said 2.6 but the sensor said 3.8 both are low but the meter reading if correct means I really hypo treatment where as the sensor reading is suggesting I need to 'think' about eating something at least in the way I tend to react to lows. Either meter could be out of range but I have no way of telling which it is. At the moment I tend to 'trust' my one touch meter, since I have had it a few years and my HBa1C is within suggested range ( it was 7.0 last time). However the one touch is just giving me 4 readings a day so there is a huge difference in the amount of data collected. I know this is a big issue for a lot of people so If Abbott start talking to me I will ask the questions. On a normal meter you can get test solutions to verify to some degree the restults you get. How can this be done for a sensor that is inserted into your arm, all the meter ( reader) is doing is collecting data from the sensor. Its the sensor that needs the testing and how can you do that with it in your arm ? I will try to find out. Until next time, Na-Nu, Na-Nu

Oct 12, 2014 marke 681 posts	Topic: General Discussion / New Glucose testing system Hi Alan, Firstly Abbott need to make a profit on these devices or they won't make any more, they are a business and like all the others are in it to make a profit. But getting back to the point , I'm not sure how often the device measures but the best granularity I can export is readings 15min apart. Its impossible to tell if the device records more than this and the meter and software only give access to 15min intervals. Reducing the rate that readings are taken won't make a difference I think because the limitation is the reliabilty of the sensor. This is attatched to the flesh and has a pin that sits under the skin, Abbott say the sensor is limited to 14 days because after that the readings become less reliable i.e not within the legal range that all BG measuring devices have to confirm to ( which are pretty lose anyway). I don't know if this is because the technology is new or its just not capable of working for long periods. I do know that there are other devices at the trial stage that are designed to last longer, however these have not got past the trial stage as yet so may never become available. I think the issue with all these devices is accuracy of reading long term, not the rate that they take readings at,

Oct 12, 2014 mum2westiesGill 502 posts	Topic: General Discussion / BG diary help please (mum2westiesGill diary) Hi glen4, Thank you for my reply/comment. Re altering my lunchtime & evening meal ratios could they both be done at the same time or am I best maybe altering the lunchtime one first then leave for a few days before altering the evening meal one?

Oct 12, 2014 Alan 49 284 posts	Topic: General Discussion / New Glucose testing system I read somewhere that the sensor takes a reading every minute. If it did the reading every two minutes, would it last twice as long? This would make it more affordable - even for the NHS. Of course it would lower Abbott's profit margin.

Oct 12, 2014 Faulty Headl... 18 posts	Topic: General Discussion / Cyborg Times (new BG meter) I doubt this device will be made accessible for blind and partially sighted diabetics so I can't get excited about this one. I can see how a proper CGM could help me, the ones which alarm to warn you of a low but fingers still crossed that perhaps the next generation one they will think about accessibility and I don't mean beeps and vibrations like the mobile system and pumps. I mean talking. Really nervous now about starting on my pump at end of year. Living on my own now and totally blind but NHS say they will only fund CGM's for special cases.

Oct 10, 2014 marke 681 posts	Topic: General Discussion / IBG STAR - reliable readings?? If you google 'blood glucose test strip accuracy' you will find loads on information about this. Although you may be used to a one touch (I use one as well ) you have to understand that ANY blood testing system only has to be accurate to + or - 20% of the true value to be considered compliant with regulations. This means that what appear to be large variations in BG readings can still be considered 'accurate'. You also have to understand what you are seeing is effectively a best guess based on basic chemical reactions in an uncontrolled environment i.e you finger and where ever you happen to be when you do the tests. I tried out a BG Star and agree its not as good as I thought, of course they have big problems now that apple have changed conenctors and their meters no longer convieniently fit to an iPhone. As for the accuracy it was different to my one touch but who can tell which one is really accurate and which one is not. Its what you are used to that you will tend to believe I guess, you just can't assume necessarily that it is correct, since the results are never truly correct.

Oct 10, 2014 marke 681 posts	Topic: General Discussion / Cyborg Times (new BG meter) day 3 and the beat goes on: Sensor still attached and causing no problems. The data it is collecting is causing me the problems though. After the first night when my BG soared over night, last night it bumped along around 3 and until about 5:30 when it started climbing to about 8 at 7am. So although there was some dawn phenomenon it was not like the night before. So more info tonight may help. The really interesting stuff is what happens between normal BG tests, all the stuff you don't normally see. I have to say the only criticism I have at the moment is the PC software which is very rudimentary and not really that useful. It does provide reports that you can view and print and even save as pdf. However the number of reports is 7 ( plus one settings report), of which 3 are variations of the same report over a day, a week , a month. Of course you can't format any of them like a DAFNE log book that might be quite useful. I would like to see a lot more flexibilty in the reporting, I don't know if software for their other meters provides a better range of reports. Given the wealth of data being collected the ability to examine this data would be a lot more useful. I will feed this back to Abbott if they reply to my email.

Oct 9, 2014 gessie 2 posts	Topic: General Discussion / IBG STAR - reliable readings?? Hi Mdadds, Thanks for your post. It pretty much follows my own experience and reactions - although I never got in touch with BG directly - as I knew they would say that - what else could they say?!! The numbers offered by the iBG system just didn't "feel right" to me as a user - and - as you say would lead to unreliable inputs of QA insulin to treat the given numbers etc. I'd be interested to hear from anyone who does use the iBG Star mini-meter with their iPhone - there must be plenty of them out there - but who has grown to trust the readings that the machine is giving - and who isn't finding problems of say being late to recognise a hypo and overreacting by shooting too much QA to reverse an overly high reading. Best regards - gessie

Oct 9, 2014 marke 681 posts	Topic: General Discussion / Cyborg Times (new BG meter) day 2 in the cyborg house: Well I have been wearing the sensor for over 24 hours now and to be honest often completely forget I have it attached. The only time is when I almost hit it on a door frame ! So thats why they recommend you wear it slightly on the back of your arm. Taking the readings is very simple, just press a button and hold it near the reader and it just works. Sadly my readings have been outside my target range today, but thats fine as it has shown me that my BG rose from about 3am last night until it hit 15 when I woke up. I dose adjusted as I have been doing and have watched my BG fall durign the morning and stay in range pretty much for the rest of the day. The most interesting thing is the apparent lack of spike post my lunch and dinner. Of course my BG went up but according to the meter it stayed below 8 the whole time ! I intend to change things tonight and see what happens to my BG's. Its really useful to be able to see what was happening overnight. Being in IT, I only read the meter manual today after I had been using it. Turns out it has a built-in bolus calculator but this can only be enabled by a HCP with a special code, so I can't test that at the moment. I have of course installed the PC software and connected the meter. I'm a bit concerned to find that it only works with the meter connected and it doesn't seem to copy the meter readings to the PC. What happens if I loose the meter ? No readings to view I have emailed Abbott to try to get contacts so I can ask about stuff like this and pass the information on. The funniest thing in the manual is the meter has a 'LO' warning, if you go below 2.2 it will just display 'Lo' and the advice is to contact your diabetes team immediately. Quite how they think you will do that whilst having a hypo is highly amusing, they obviously have not got someone to have a hypo and try this advice Well that will do for now, more tomorrow. Oh one last thing it really is shower proof !

Oct 9, 2014 glen4 46 posts	Topic: General Discussion / BG diary help please (mum2westiesGill diary) Your ratios at mid afternoon and your evening meal don't seem high enough! Try taking more insulin!? What about splitting your bi? Its evenly spread throughout the day. It seems to be short lived(running out in the daytime)!

Oct 8, 2014 marke 681 posts	Topic: General Discussion / New Glucose testing system Hi, not as yet but I will be trying to get information and as and when I get it I will add it to the cyborg thread. As I said I have been told that the sensors currently cost Â£48. Generally I would expect this price to drop particularly if another company launches a similiar product to increase competition. I have no idea if this is likely as they will all keep things under wraps until they are launched.

Oct 8, 2014 wigworld 19 posts	Topic: General Discussion / New Glucose testing system Decided to post here rather than on the new thread: I was unable to squeeze any cost information out of Abbott when I phoned them, but they did say that the sensors could be bought individually, or that it would be possible to buy a subscription, so that they came automatically every month or every 3 months. Do you have any info on that? Thanks, David

Oct 8, 2014 marke 681 posts	Topic: General Discussion / New Glucose testing system All I have started a new thread to record all the details of my Abbott Libre experiment. You can find it here

Oct 8, 2014 marke 681 posts	Topic: General Discussion / Cyborg Times (new BG meter) greetings humans I am now a Diabetic Cyborg having been fitted with my Abbott FreeStyle Libre sensor today. I intend to use this thread to keep you up to date with my experiences with the device. Hoepfully it will help you to decide if the device is for you ! Currently the NHS is adamant they won't pay for the sensors which cost Â£48 and last 14 days. We won't get into the logic and justifications for this at the moment. Lets concentrate on the device itself. Ok the 'reader' as they are calling it is a BG meter with a touch screen. It can take Freestyle Optium test strips and ketone strips so you can do 'normal' blood tests on it. Part of the reason for this is they make it clear that the sensor measures interstitial fluid and NOT blood, this is the stuff under your skin in the 'flesh'/'fat'. It can lag the BG readings of blood by upto 15 mins, so if you think you are having a hypo they recomend you do a BG test to compare. This is not unreasonable since it is doing 'continuous' testing and looking at trends. The 'sensor' is a disk about 3cm in diameter with what looks like a pin in the middle. You have to fit it to your upper arm as that is the only location they have fully tested readings from. They recommend that it is slightly at the back of the arm so it doesn't get caught on things. So far I have had no problems with this. If you do accidentally remove the sensor you have to fit a new one you can't re-attach it. Its supposed to be water proof ( to be verified) and is worn constantly for 14 days. The applicator is a bit like a big lancet device, you open the senser pack put it in the applicator and pushdown on the location you want to fit it. Despite nervousness you don't feel it attach at all ! Once attached you scan it with the reader which logs it and then waits 60 mins before it will start taking readings. This is apparently so the sensor acclimatises to your body. After 60 mins you just hold the reader over the sensor and it automatically gets all the readings. You can do this through clothes, I did it through a t-shirt AND sweatshirt and it read no problem. It emits a tone to indicate it has made the reading. You can then look at all the readings on the meter. I will go into the use of the meter reports and the PC upload tomorrow once I have built-up an amount of readings.

Oct 8, 2014 Rafa 99 posts	Topic: Carbohydrate Counting / Sweetcorn Just found this thread. Have to say from experience i found for myself not to count sweetcorn. I had some yesterday for the first time in a long time and i was 13.2 three hours after but was back in range two hours later.

Oct 8, 2014 mum2westiesGill 502 posts	Topic: General Discussion / BG diary help please (mum2westiesGill diary) A few more days of my diary. Can anyone see any trends? Any help in identifying trends and/or advice on how to improve my control would be greatly appreciated Thank you

Oct 8, 2014 MBC 2 posts	Topic: General Discussion / sugar in urine wigworld said: Have you done a DAFNE course? How come you are testing urine rather than blood testing? Do you have type 1 or type 2 Diabetes? HI IM TYPE 1, HAVE DONE THE DAFNE COURSE AND TEST MY BLOOD EVERY TIME DAFNE RECOMMENDS, THE URINE TEST IS DONE BY MY DOCTOR AND ITS A TEST THATS DONE BY THE C1 LICENCE CENTRE, THANKS FOR ANY HELP YOU CAN PROVIDE

Oct 7, 2014 wigworld 19 posts	Topic: General Discussion / sugar in urine Have you done a DAFNE course? How come you are testing urine rather than blood testing? Do you have type 1 or type 2 Diabetes?

Oct 7, 2014 MBC 2 posts	Topic: General Discussion / sugar in urine hi, everyone im planning to go for my c1 licence but i still have sugar 3+++ in my urine, can anyone tell me how to reduce this as it may hinder my application, im sticking to my dafne routine and have lost weight and im kinda still insulin resisted, i dont eat junk food or drink none diet drinks, what am i doing wrong!!!! THANKYOU TO EVERYONE THAT CAN HELP ME