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Jun 21, 2010

Karl 83 posts

Topic: General Discussion / Chinese Takeaway.

Hi

A couple of things

Can you update with the correct times - your snacks could be too soon to give a correction - both food and insulin may have not finished working.

Your correction doses look wrong - what are you working on 2-3 / QA - today you gave - 4 and Thurs with a BG of 6.5 you gave a +4 !

and this is for 8 CP at a ratio of 2:1 which should be 16 QA you gave 6+4

Jun 21, 2010

Anil 39 posts

Topic: DAFNE Online Mobile / Rationale - Please read

I dont have an Iphone, but I do have a Android Powered Mobile, You can write applications in Java for these (If you know how to), Im no good with programming apart from web based programming. But I'd love to see an android application (Once written, they will work across ALL android platforms and phones).. But I hopefully will be buying an iPhone eventually so love to see an iphone app to!

Jun 21, 2010

novorapidboi26 1,819 posts

Topic: General Discussion / Chinese Takeaway.

Hi there........

Only a graduate but it seems to me that your ratios at lunch/snack time should be considered for change, maybe down to 1.5:1.

I think your not as resistant to insulin in the afternoon as you think you are..

But you mught also want to consider your activity in the afternoons......you could be quite busy and active after lunch moving around alot.

A few thing I noticed:

In the mornings you have not been correcting for 7 - 8 readings. Why is that?

Thursday at 15:16pm you had 8 CPs but only took 6units of QA (when your ratio is 2:1) plus 4 corrective units (which were not neccesary as you were on target).

I also think some of the times are wrong too....

This makes it difficult to see how long insulin is working for and when your eating, which is crucial information needed for dafne.

I say redo the diary entries and repost

Jun 21, 2010

oldtulip 2 posts

Topic: General Discussion / Chinese Takeaway.

Even though rice and sauces you get with Chinese food is high in cp's and you have qa's to match how come I always seem to to have hypo's afterwards?

Jun 21, 2010

novorapidboi26 1,819 posts

Topic: General Discussion / How good is dafne

I am noticing alot of graduates are losing weight.....I have not actually wieghed myself but my gut and man boobs look the same to me.......

Also alot of people who have done dafne, both on here and the others in my classroom have normal good control (in terms of haemaglobin), which confused me to why they were on the course.

I realiased that people need help to control the condition in both directions.....

My pre dafne HbA1c test was 11.8, 0.2 below the maximum allowed, everyone else was below 8, how was everyone elses pre dafne tests, was I the only truly badly controlled one out there.....

My last test was 8.0, Happy Days..........

Jun 20, 2010

novorapidboi26 1,819 posts

Topic: General Discussion / Anyone on more than 3:1 ratio?

My protocol with the higher blood readings (over 12 mmol/l), is to correct normally but add 1 unit of insulin on to that.

This is purely because the normal porportions of insulin to sugar decrease does not apply, this may be because I am overweigght!!

I t works good for me.......

Jun 20, 2010

Anil 39 posts

Topic: General Discussion / Calling all budding artists!

Hey
I just put the little man and the heart to kind of promote "Healthiness" if you will, The space above the DAFNE and to the Right of the Teardrop was a bit to empty I thought,
I could remove it, but it looked a little to empty, So just put it there to promote "Healthiness" and "Well Being". And to put another colour into it, as oppose to being ALL orange.
I'll work on it a bit more tomorrow if i get a chance, I'll see what else I can come up with.

Thanks!

Jun 20, 2010

novorapidboi26 1,819 posts

Topic: General Discussion / Calling all budding artists!

The last one is really good, dont know about the heart and the wee man,

Is there any medical backgound to that element.......

Jun 20, 2010

novorapidboi26 1,819 posts

Topic: General Discussion / Dawn Phenomonon

I agree totallym the earlier the better..........

I am alaways between 10 - 15 at 6.30 am, I correct and then take my breakfast insulin (3:1).

Before dafne I never had anything to eat that early but I have now got myself into the routine as the large amounts of insulin bring me down to 4.9 - 5.7 by 12.00 for lunch..

Jun 20, 2010

Anil 39 posts

Topic: General Discussion / Calling all budding artists!

Here's an Update of the above logo's.
Few Minor changes between them, I'm running out of idea's of what to add or remove!! Any idea's will be appreciated!!

Redesign 1

Redesign 2

Redesign 3

Again, let us know what you think, Im all out of ideas!... I wanted to go for a "Web 2.0" Look. The water drop kind of resembles a blood glucose droplet (Kind of) and everything else is as is.

Thanks!
Anil

Jun 19, 2010

Anil 39 posts

Topic: General Discussion / Calling all budding artists!

Personally... I like logos 2, 6, & 8.

I wanted to include the message of "Freedom" to eat what you want, but didn't know exactly where to put it or how to fit it in. How about for Logo 4... "Freedom to Eat what you like"..?

Any idea's, comments or suggestion's will be appreciated!!

--EDIT--
Here's some ideas for a iPhone App Icon I whipped up, just a rough idea:

iPhone Logo's

(P.S: I'll work on the resolution quality, to make sure its optimized for the iPhone)

-- Another Edit --
Added a "Web 2.0 look" (Glossy)

Getting Tired! I'll call it a night for today.. Let us know your thoughts!

Things to do for tomorrow... (For my reference only)
- Include a Pattern within the logo to make it more friendly on the eye
- Perhaps include a pattern for iPhone? (Test)
- Include a pattern in the DAFNE text for the Logo.
- Change the Orange colour to a slightly darker colour to keep in line with DAFNE Online. (#ee8043) / Web Colour (#ff9933)
- Add "Online" to the logo to change to "DAFNE Online"
- Make a new favicon for the site.
- await for responses and suggestions!!

Thanks!
Anil! Very Happy

Jun 19, 2010

Anil 39 posts

Topic: General Discussion / Calling all budding artists!

Well... I'm not an artist, but I do enjoy creating images for the Web. So here you go!...

Here are 8 Logo's I created, They have small variations between them, Let us know what you like (and Don't like) and I can edit them accordingly!

OR... post a rough idea of what you would like, and I'll do my best to create it!...

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Logo 1

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Logo 2

-----------------------------------------------------------------------------

Logo 3

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Logo 4

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Logo 5

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Logo 6

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Logo 7

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Logo 8

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Thanks!
Anil

Jun 19, 2010

laur2702 1 post

Topic: General Discussion / Dawn Phenomonon

Hi,

I am the same, can have normal blood sugar eg 5 at 7am and 10 or more by 8am. I test as soon as I get up and if blood sugar within normal range I take 2 units (I am on humalog), if slightly high do the required correction. Then do normal ratio come breakfast time and this seems to have been working for the last while. For me the key seems to be getting some insulin into my system early.

I have only suffered the effects of dawn phenomenon since DAFNE as previously I had a lantus dose that was too big and always had a bedtime snack with no insulin.

Have been told a pump would help but I'm not keen!

Jun 19, 2010

Simon 578 posts

Topic: General Discussion / Calling all budding artists!

Hi again, here's an idea we've had from Mossitizer - let us know your thoughts!

Jun 18, 2010

Simon 578 posts

Topic: General Discussion / Calling all budding artists!

As Mark and I are IT people, we are pretty artistically challenged, so need your help to design a new logo for DAFNE Online. The logo should be in keeping with DAFNE themes, and will appear in the upcoming DAFNE Online iPhone app as well as the site.

If you do have an idea in mind then share it with us here, or email [email protected] - you help is much appreciated!

Simon

Jun 18, 2010

Emma OToole 4 posts

Topic: General Discussion / chocoholic!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

hi Jayne!

Nope I'm with you as a chocoholic!! I assure you. Before I started DAFNE I would eat a lot of chocolate if I was Hypo. This happen quite a lot and I gained a lot of weight. But that didn't stop me. Now that I have completed DAFNE I know I can still have my chocolate without the hypo and still be happy and not gain weight as I now exercise quite a lot now that I did years ago.

Jun 18, 2010

Emma OToole 4 posts

Topic: Carbohydrate Counting / Parsnips

I had this discussion with my dietician in Dublin. I find it very hard to gauge how much parsnips are on CP scale. Looking at some packaging from Tesco, on some ready made meals (I don't normally eat these only just for research purposes), parsnips would be as heavily laden in CP's as potatoes. Everyone is different and it does depend on the fat content with the rest of your meal with regards to carb absorption.

At the beginning I did notice a massive increase in my levels. I then lowered the portion size and slightly increased my insulin. Just for parsnips alone on a roughly 2 dessert spoons I'd calculate 2CP. They is just by eye balling the food and my how my levels don't soar afterwards

Jun 17, 2010

Anil 39 posts

Topic: General Discussion / Hi!..... Im New

Hi!,

Tips for AFTER DAFNE

1. Practice It DAILY until it becomes a habit, It may seem daunting, but Its very easy, and will help for the REST OF YOUR LIFE, it is a SKILL FOR LIFE, and like all skills, Practice = Perfection.

2. Review your progress weekly when your free, (Sitting in front of the TV or something, bring your DAFNE BG book out and see what happened and when, Did you go out?, Did you do exercise? etc)

3. If you have any questions or problems.... Post them on this Forum! The best people to ask are US, We all have gained experience through practice. If your ever worried about something... JUST ASK!!

4. EXERCISE!!!... I know this isn't a "Tip", But its really important for us to exercise regularly, This will help with blood circulation (which improves nerve growth & repair, and reduce nerve damage) and generally help to prevent any long term complications.

5. Treat yourself every now and again for excellent BG control, This helps reinforce what you've learned and practiced and will also motivate you (Sub-conciously even) to make it into a habit.

6. Practice by eating different types of meals, Eating out and such. Remember you should be able to recall this from the top of your head (When out in restaurants and stuff).

7. And last one... Practice, Practice, PRACTICE!!... <--- This is very important, (I know I said it already!, But its THAT important) don't under-estimate it, take the time to know what your doing and review it every so often (Make changes were necessary)

Anyone else, feel free to share your own!

Jun 17, 2010

kerryn bown 2 posts

Topic: General Discussion / Hi!..... Im New

Hi all, I just signed up today, I just finished my DAFNE course in June, at Sellyoak hospital with Lesley and Sam, the course was really helpful and I am already seeing improvements in my morning and lunchtime glucose readiings, it is taking time but it certainly is a huge help after being diagnosed about 15 years ago!! Like many others I have been livining in the dark ages with this and having set doses of insulin that you have to eat up to, so even when you weren't hungary - you had to eat!!! I am so pleased I can now eat what I like even a salad and not have to worry about whether or not it is going to make me hypo!!
Thanks ever so much to Lesley and Sam they do a fab job!!

Kerryn

Jun 17, 2010

Anil 39 posts

Topic: Carbohydrate Counting / Am i counting carbs right

Pasta is almost all carbs, so that could be right, When I have a standard plate of pasta I'm taking over 10 easy on 1:1.
I would have never done this before DAFNE, but its working great now!!... I also never used to take any units for milk in the past, but after DAFNE always 1 unit per 200ml of milk, (Which I have with almost every meal)

After a large meal (Whatever it is generally)... I take between 10-20 units depending what I eat. All my ratios are currently 1:1, so 1.5:1 could take you over 20 with a large meal.
Garlic bread is very carb intensive (Bread) so that could be right.

Best thing is to take the insulin, see how you feel after 2 hours or so, if you feel "low" or like your having a Hypo, then you probably took to much, Write it down in your diary and keep it in mind next time you eat, Its all about trial and error! Were all different!

Jun 17, 2010

Anil 39 posts

Topic: General Discussion / Hi!..... Im New

Wow I've never need the Glucogen shot!.. I hope I never will, DAFNE should help immeasurably with this, I also have a few night time hypo's. But now I just keep a can of Normal Coke next to my bed along with some sweets and Hypostop, I tend to wake up in the night if I have a hypo, (Sweats, shakey, hungry)... So I can treat ASAP.
Anyways.. Welcome!..

Jun 17, 2010

Emma OToole 4 posts

Topic: General Discussion / Hi!..... Im New

Hi Everyone,

I signed up to DAFNE online today. I completed the DAFNE course in Dublin about 2 years ago. I've had Type 1 since I was 14 years of age. OMG 20 years ago!! Wow! I all of a sudden feel old Smile

Sorry I digressed for a minute. I love the freedom the DAFNE course taught me with my dosage, foods, handling of illness, stress, exercise, everything!

Before I started DAFNE I was having very bad hypo's during the night. So much so I need the glucose injection and to be hospitalised. They have since stopped since I completed DAFNE. My quality of life has improved for me and my family Smile

Jun 21, 2010 Karl 83 posts	Topic: General Discussion / Chinese Takeaway. Hi A couple of things Can you update with the correct times - your snacks could be too soon to give a correction - both food and insulin may have not finished working. Your correction doses look wrong - what are you working on 2-3 / QA - today you gave - 4 and Thurs with a BG of 6.5 you gave a +4 ! and this is for 8 CP at a ratio of 2:1 which should be 16 QA you gave 6+4

Jun 21, 2010 Anil 39 posts	Topic: DAFNE Online Mobile / Rationale - Please read I dont have an Iphone, but I do have a Android Powered Mobile, You can write applications in Java for these (If you know how to), Im no good with programming apart from web based programming. But I'd love to see an android application (Once written, they will work across ALL android platforms and phones).. But I hopefully will be buying an iPhone eventually so love to see an iphone app to!

Jun 21, 2010 novorapidboi26 1,819 posts	Topic: General Discussion / Chinese Takeaway. Hi there........ Only a graduate but it seems to me that your ratios at lunch/snack time should be considered for change, maybe down to 1.5:1. I think your not as resistant to insulin in the afternoon as you think you are.. But you mught also want to consider your activity in the afternoons......you could be quite busy and active after lunch moving around alot. A few thing I noticed: In the mornings you have not been correcting for 7 - 8 readings. Why is that? Thursday at 15:16pm you had 8 CPs but only took 6units of QA (when your ratio is 2:1) plus 4 corrective units (which were not neccesary as you were on target). I also think some of the times are wrong too.... This makes it difficult to see how long insulin is working for and when your eating, which is crucial information needed for dafne. I say redo the diary entries and repost

Jun 21, 2010 oldtulip 2 posts	Topic: General Discussion / Chinese Takeaway. Even though rice and sauces you get with Chinese food is high in cp's and you have qa's to match how come I always seem to to have hypo's afterwards?

Jun 21, 2010 novorapidboi26 1,819 posts	Topic: General Discussion / How good is dafne I am noticing alot of graduates are losing weight.....I have not actually wieghed myself but my gut and man boobs look the same to me....... Also alot of people who have done dafne, both on here and the others in my classroom have normal good control (in terms of haemaglobin), which confused me to why they were on the course. I realiased that people need help to control the condition in both directions..... My pre dafne HbA1c test was 11.8, 0.2 below the maximum allowed, everyone else was below 8, how was everyone elses pre dafne tests, was I the only truly badly controlled one out there..... My last test was 8.0, Happy Days..........

Jun 20, 2010 novorapidboi26 1,819 posts	Topic: General Discussion / Anyone on more than 3:1 ratio? My protocol with the higher blood readings (over 12 mmol/l), is to correct normally but add 1 unit of insulin on to that. This is purely because the normal porportions of insulin to sugar decrease does not apply, this may be because I am overweigght!! I t works good for me.......

Jun 20, 2010 Anil 39 posts	Topic: General Discussion / Calling all budding artists! Hey I just put the little man and the heart to kind of promote "Healthiness" if you will, The space above the DAFNE and to the Right of the Teardrop was a bit to empty I thought, I could remove it, but it looked a little to empty, So just put it there to promote "Healthiness" and "Well Being". And to put another colour into it, as oppose to being ALL orange. I'll work on it a bit more tomorrow if i get a chance, I'll see what else I can come up with. Thanks!

Jun 20, 2010 novorapidboi26 1,819 posts	Topic: General Discussion / Calling all budding artists! The last one is really good, dont know about the heart and the wee man, Is there any medical backgound to that element.......

Jun 20, 2010 novorapidboi26 1,819 posts	Topic: General Discussion / Dawn Phenomonon I agree totallym the earlier the better.......... I am alaways between 10 - 15 at 6.30 am, I correct and then take my breakfast insulin (3:1). Before dafne I never had anything to eat that early but I have now got myself into the routine as the large amounts of insulin bring me down to 4.9 - 5.7 by 12.00 for lunch..

Jun 20, 2010 Anil 39 posts	Topic: General Discussion / Calling all budding artists! Here's an Update of the above logo's. Few Minor changes between them, I'm running out of idea's of what to add or remove!! Any idea's will be appreciated!! Redesign 1 Redesign 2 Redesign 3 Again, let us know what you think, Im all out of ideas!... I wanted to go for a "Web 2.0" Look. The water drop kind of resembles a blood glucose droplet (Kind of) and everything else is as is. Thanks! Anil

Jun 19, 2010 Anil 39 posts	Topic: General Discussion / Calling all budding artists! Personally... I like logos 2, 6, & 8. I wanted to include the message of "Freedom" to eat what you want, but didn't know exactly where to put it or how to fit it in. How about for Logo 4... "Freedom to Eat what you like"..? Any idea's, comments or suggestion's will be appreciated!! --EDIT-- Here's some ideas for a iPhone App Icon I whipped up, just a rough idea: iPhone Logo's (P.S: I'll work on the resolution quality, to make sure its optimized for the iPhone) -- Another Edit -- Added a "Web 2.0 look" (Glossy) Getting Tired! I'll call it a night for today.. Let us know your thoughts! Things to do for tomorrow... (For my reference only) - Include a Pattern within the logo to make it more friendly on the eye - Perhaps include a pattern for iPhone? (Test) - Include a pattern in the DAFNE text for the Logo. - Change the Orange colour to a slightly darker colour to keep in line with DAFNE Online. (#ee8043) / Web Colour (#ff9933) - Add "Online" to the logo to change to "DAFNE Online" - Make a new favicon for the site. - await for responses and suggestions!! Thanks! Anil!

Jun 19, 2010 Anil 39 posts	Topic: General Discussion / Calling all budding artists! Well... I'm not an artist, but I do enjoy creating images for the Web. So here you go!... Here are 8 Logo's I created, They have small variations between them, Let us know what you like (and Don't like) and I can edit them accordingly! OR... post a rough idea of what you would like, and I'll do my best to create it!... ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- Logo 1 ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- Logo 2 ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- Logo 3 ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- Logo 4 ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- Logo 5 ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- Logo 6 ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- Logo 7 ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- Logo 8 ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- Thanks! Anil

Jun 19, 2010 laur2702 1 post	Topic: General Discussion / Dawn Phenomonon Hi, I am the same, can have normal blood sugar eg 5 at 7am and 10 or more by 8am. I test as soon as I get up and if blood sugar within normal range I take 2 units (I am on humalog), if slightly high do the required correction. Then do normal ratio come breakfast time and this seems to have been working for the last while. For me the key seems to be getting some insulin into my system early. I have only suffered the effects of dawn phenomenon since DAFNE as previously I had a lantus dose that was too big and always had a bedtime snack with no insulin. Have been told a pump would help but I'm not keen!

Jun 19, 2010 Simon 578 posts	Topic: General Discussion / Calling all budding artists! Hi again, here's an idea we've had from Mossitizer - let us know your thoughts!

Jun 18, 2010 Simon 578 posts	Topic: General Discussion / Calling all budding artists! As Mark and I are IT people, we are pretty artistically challenged, so need your help to design a new logo for DAFNE Online. The logo should be in keeping with DAFNE themes, and will appear in the upcoming DAFNE Online iPhone app as well as the site. If you do have an idea in mind then share it with us here, or email [email protected] - you help is much appreciated! Simon

Jun 18, 2010 Emma OToole 4 posts	Topic: General Discussion / chocoholic!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! hi Jayne! Nope I'm with you as a chocoholic!! I assure you. Before I started DAFNE I would eat a lot of chocolate if I was Hypo. This happen quite a lot and I gained a lot of weight. But that didn't stop me. Now that I have completed DAFNE I know I can still have my chocolate without the hypo and still be happy and not gain weight as I now exercise quite a lot now that I did years ago.

Jun 18, 2010 Emma OToole 4 posts	Topic: Carbohydrate Counting / Parsnips I had this discussion with my dietician in Dublin. I find it very hard to gauge how much parsnips are on CP scale. Looking at some packaging from Tesco, on some ready made meals (I don't normally eat these only just for research purposes), parsnips would be as heavily laden in CP's as potatoes. Everyone is different and it does depend on the fat content with the rest of your meal with regards to carb absorption. At the beginning I did notice a massive increase in my levels. I then lowered the portion size and slightly increased my insulin. Just for parsnips alone on a roughly 2 dessert spoons I'd calculate 2CP. They is just by eye balling the food and my how my levels don't soar afterwards

Jun 17, 2010 Anil 39 posts	Topic: General Discussion / Hi!..... Im New Hi!, Tips for AFTER DAFNE 1. Practice It DAILY until it becomes a habit, It may seem daunting, but Its very easy, and will help for the REST OF YOUR LIFE, it is a SKILL FOR LIFE, and like all skills, Practice = Perfection. 2. Review your progress weekly when your free, (Sitting in front of the TV or something, bring your DAFNE BG book out and see what happened and when, Did you go out?, Did you do exercise? etc) 3. If you have any questions or problems.... Post them on this Forum! The best people to ask are US, We all have gained experience through practice. If your ever worried about something... JUST ASK!! 4. EXERCISE!!!... I know this isn't a "Tip", But its really important for us to exercise regularly, This will help with blood circulation (which improves nerve growth & repair, and reduce nerve damage) and generally help to prevent any long term complications. 5. Treat yourself every now and again for excellent BG control, This helps reinforce what you've learned and practiced and will also motivate you (Sub-conciously even) to make it into a habit. 6. Practice by eating different types of meals, Eating out and such. Remember you should be able to recall this from the top of your head (When out in restaurants and stuff). 7. And last one... Practice, Practice, PRACTICE!!... <--- This is very important, (I know I said it already!, But its THAT important) don't under-estimate it, take the time to know what your doing and review it every so often (Make changes were necessary) Anyone else, feel free to share your own!

Jun 17, 2010 kerryn bown 2 posts	Topic: General Discussion / Hi!..... Im New Hi all, I just signed up today, I just finished my DAFNE course in June, at Sellyoak hospital with Lesley and Sam, the course was really helpful and I am already seeing improvements in my morning and lunchtime glucose readiings, it is taking time but it certainly is a huge help after being diagnosed about 15 years ago!! Like many others I have been livining in the dark ages with this and having set doses of insulin that you have to eat up to, so even when you weren't hungary - you had to eat!!! I am so pleased I can now eat what I like even a salad and not have to worry about whether or not it is going to make me hypo!! Thanks ever so much to Lesley and Sam they do a fab job!! Kerryn

Jun 17, 2010 Anil 39 posts	Topic: Carbohydrate Counting / Am i counting carbs right Pasta is almost all carbs, so that could be right, When I have a standard plate of pasta I'm taking over 10 easy on 1:1. I would have never done this before DAFNE, but its working great now!!... I also never used to take any units for milk in the past, but after DAFNE always 1 unit per 200ml of milk, (Which I have with almost every meal) After a large meal (Whatever it is generally)... I take between 10-20 units depending what I eat. All my ratios are currently 1:1, so 1.5:1 could take you over 20 with a large meal. Garlic bread is very carb intensive (Bread) so that could be right. Best thing is to take the insulin, see how you feel after 2 hours or so, if you feel "low" or like your having a Hypo, then you probably took to much, Write it down in your diary and keep it in mind next time you eat, Its all about trial and error! Were all different!

Jun 17, 2010 Anil 39 posts	Topic: General Discussion / Hi!..... Im New Wow I've never need the Glucogen shot!.. I hope I never will, DAFNE should help immeasurably with this, I also have a few night time hypo's. But now I just keep a can of Normal Coke next to my bed along with some sweets and Hypostop, I tend to wake up in the night if I have a hypo, (Sweats, shakey, hungry)... So I can treat ASAP. Anyways.. Welcome!..

Jun 17, 2010 Emma OToole 4 posts	Topic: General Discussion / Hi!..... Im New Hi Everyone, I signed up to DAFNE online today. I completed the DAFNE course in Dublin about 2 years ago. I've had Type 1 since I was 14 years of age. OMG 20 years ago!! Wow! I all of a sudden feel old Sorry I digressed for a minute. I love the freedom the DAFNE course taught me with my dosage, foods, handling of illness, stress, exercise, everything! Before I started DAFNE I was having very bad hypo's during the night. So much so I need the glucose injection and to be hospitalised. They have since stopped since I completed DAFNE. My quality of life has improved for me and my family