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Jun 30, 2010

Emma OToole 4 posts

Topic: General Discussion / chocoholic!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

but isn't that the tagline for DAFNE "Eat what you like, like what you eat"?....In moderation of course Smile

Jun 30, 2010

novorapidboi26 1,819 posts

Topic: Carbohydrate Counting / Picnics (grr)

Thats an interesting twist on corrections norman, one that I might try tonight if I am high...........

I usually work out my correction, according to the 1 unit - 3mmol/l rule then add 1 unit on to that if I am 13 or above.

Jo, I think your CARB math is good, just the correction when ure running that bit higher........give it a try

Jun 30, 2010

Tony.P 16 posts

Topic: General Discussion / I want an insulin pump

Having had a pump and had to give it back I can relate to this subject, they are very convinent and my levels have gone up since comming off it, but I think the DAFNE course is the key NOT the pump. I have to say there are some down sides to the pump, sleeping with it certanly is not great, they are expensive to the
NHS not that that should be an issue if you really need one.
there is a lot of stuff you need to carry around with you too, canulars, resovoirs,insulin (obviously), Batteries.
So do some research, would I go back on? not sure at the moment.

Jun 30, 2010

Tony.P 16 posts

Topic: General Discussion / chocoholic!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

glad it's not just me! love Chocolate and cakes for that matter much to my wife's dissmay...."you should not be eating that!"

Jun 30, 2010

Tony.P 16 posts

Topic: General Discussion / How good is dafne

I did DAFNE/pump pilot course in January, have since had to give the pump back as it was part of the trial. I was 8.7 down to 8.5 so not a big drop. I am still going with the DAFNE as my levels have jumped up since coming off the pump so am trying to get them back down, I recomend the course it really does help.

Jun 30, 2010

Rachie Wilson 9 posts

Topic: General Discussion / DAFNE and Employers

I did my course back in January and I had the full week off with pay. I did come in after we had finished each days to bits and bobs but work have been great about it all and all the follow meetings as well.

Jun 30, 2010

Tony.P 16 posts

Topic: General Discussion / DAFNE and Employers

My boss said I could take a week off as paid sick leave, mind you I take less sick leave than everybody else anyway! I do take the odd days leave for eye clincs ect though, don't like to take advantage.

Jun 29, 2010

Simon 578 posts

Topic: Carbohydrate Counting / Picnics (grr)

Hi Jo, from reading other threads on the forums (and my own experiences) it seems that if your BG is above 10mmol/l then the normal DAFNE Rules of 1 unit of QA to drop it down by 2-3 mmol/l doesn't apply - you need a bit more insulin. I'd say try giving 1 extra unit, and add as necessary and see how you go.

Jun 29, 2010

Nat 30 posts

Topic: Carbohydrate Counting / Picnics (grr)

What a great boyfriend doing that for you. I think you were right with your CP counting but I would have given +3 units as +2 would only drop you by about 6 and you really needed to be down to about 5.5 ideally. Perhaps try correcting slightly more.

Jun 29, 2010

Jo Penn 24 posts

Topic: Carbohydrate Counting / Vegetables

My understanding is that DAFNE does not count Veggies because they are absorbed differently than startchy foods...
Q for the HCPs I thinks

Jun 29, 2010

EMS 15 posts

Topic: Carbohydrate Counting / Vegetables

Hi there,
just wondering why there are no vegetables in the carb counter list, as far as i know, peas and carrots for example have plenty of carbs.
Thanks
Elli

Jun 29, 2010

Jo Penn 24 posts

Topic: Carbohydrate Counting / Picnics (grr)

Blimey, my lovely boyfriend made me a lovely picnic and had 2 1/2 sandwiches and crisps and calculated to 9.5CP then 15CP (+2 Correction as was at 14.9mmol) but after that and a late meal was 16.1 before dinner...

I am sure I calculated correctly... 5 slices bread (med) 7 1/2 CP and the crisps on a 1:1/2 ratio

Any tips for next time?

Thanks

Jun 29, 2010

novorapidboi26 1,819 posts

Topic: General Discussion / I want an insulin pump

Now thats the kinda control where a pump would benefit in order to regulate delivery over longer periods.................

Its strange that though.....

I have one or two a week, and thats me got good control now........

I would love to learn about why people like yourself cupcake have so many hypos..................

Do you know why it is????

What units of insulin are you on??

Jun 29, 2010

cupcake 3 posts

Topic: General Discussion / I want an insulin pump

I have been Diabetic for 7 years and finished DAFNE course 2 months ago. I am getting a pump next week and am very apprehensive about it. I have had no hypo awarness now for 18 months despite efforts to get these symptoms back. I have about 3 hypos a day at various times and many result in hospital treatment and fits. I would love to manage with my pen alone and the thought of excercise would be a dream but just not possible at the moment. However on my dafne course the consultant said that anybody who met the NICE criteria could request a pump and would be given one. I know two graduates who were on my course for that reason alone, even with relativly stable BG's. Good luck , hope you get what you want.

Jun 29, 2010

cupcake 3 posts

Topic: General Discussion / Corrections

If you are unsure you could do a 3am BG test for a couple of nights then you will know if it is the CP or correction or not if it rises after about 4.30am
It might help you to identify cause

Jun 28, 2010

Nat 30 posts

Topic: General Discussion / Target range?

Hi Jo - I was feeling exactly the same until Saturday morning woke up in range spent the whole day in range even went to the pub and out for dinner. Sunday came and when I went to bed I was 19.1 (where did that come from). I corrected and woke up this morning back in range but just cannot explain it. Are you taking your background at the right times i.e. early enough before the previous dose runs out? Perhaps you could try eating a certain set diet for a day or two and then introduce other foods to see if it changes at all!

Jun 28, 2010

novorapidboi26 1,819 posts

Topic: General Discussion / Target range?

If your sugars stay steady overnight, without any carbs, then your background is right, assuming its lantus and sometimes levemir...

The next step is purely look for a pattern in your sugars. I have been doing it for a year and I am out of target everyday. But my haemaglobin is down.

Try not to get to addicted to getting it perfect....

Post a few days up here by putting it in the diary that you can access on the right hand side, and we can all comment...........

Jun 28, 2010

Jo Penn 24 posts

Topic: General Discussion / Target range?

Well - DAFNE going well, and seem to be maintaining the status quo with my background. However I am still not in DAFNE target... any tips/ideas?

Jo

Jun 26, 2010

novorapidboi26 1,819 posts

Topic: General Discussion / Corrections

My question is, when you have 1 CP at bed, what is your reading in the morning, it cant be that high unless you suffer from the dawn phenomonon, as I do. If you are in double figures in the morning it wont be the 10 gram of carbohydrate for sure. And if it is dawn phenomonon, you cant really do anything.

And if following the DAFNE principles you dont take for 10 grams.....................

If you are hypoing during the night, you must be correcting to much, unless its a background dose issue, but you would be experiencing lows all the time if that was the case.

If it was me before bed, I wouldnt take cp for a blood reading of 5 as my background is correct. Even though the target is around the 7 mark.

I recommend publishing you results for one of the nights in question, could get a better idea and maybe get some feedback from a HCP....

Jun 26, 2010

novorapidboi26 1,819 posts

Topic: Carbohydrate Counting / Risotto "what CP Rating is it?

I think rice, fried or boiled is pretty much the same per 100g cooked, and therefore rissoto is the same..................

If anyone get the exact carbs add it in the carb section here................

Jun 26, 2010

novorapidboi26 1,819 posts

Topic: Carbohydrate Counting / taka way

I agree, its basically a tub of rice, with prawns mixed in.....................

The rice portion is in the dafne carb book...................

good choice of take away, scrumptious...............

Jun 26, 2010

Nat 30 posts

Topic: Carbohydrate Counting / Risotto "what CP Rating is it?

Personally I wouldn't count it as steamed as it is cooked in stock like boiled rice and steamed is as it says cooked in the steam only. Let me know how you get on as I too like risotto and have only completed the course a few days ago.

Jun 30, 2010 Emma OToole 4 posts	Topic: General Discussion / chocoholic!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! but isn't that the tagline for DAFNE "Eat what you like, like what you eat"?....In moderation of course

Jun 30, 2010 novorapidboi26 1,819 posts	Topic: Carbohydrate Counting / Picnics (grr) Thats an interesting twist on corrections norman, one that I might try tonight if I am high........... I usually work out my correction, according to the 1 unit - 3mmol/l rule then add 1 unit on to that if I am 13 or above. Jo, I think your CARB math is good, just the correction when ure running that bit higher........give it a try

Jun 30, 2010 Tony.P 16 posts	Topic: General Discussion / I want an insulin pump Having had a pump and had to give it back I can relate to this subject, they are very convinent and my levels have gone up since comming off it, but I think the DAFNE course is the key NOT the pump. I have to say there are some down sides to the pump, sleeping with it certanly is not great, they are expensive to the NHS not that that should be an issue if you really need one. there is a lot of stuff you need to carry around with you too, canulars, resovoirs,insulin (obviously), Batteries. So do some research, would I go back on? not sure at the moment.

Jun 30, 2010 Tony.P 16 posts	Topic: General Discussion / chocoholic!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! glad it's not just me! love Chocolate and cakes for that matter much to my wife's dissmay...."you should not be eating that!"

Jun 30, 2010 Tony.P 16 posts	Topic: General Discussion / How good is dafne I did DAFNE/pump pilot course in January, have since had to give the pump back as it was part of the trial. I was 8.7 down to 8.5 so not a big drop. I am still going with the DAFNE as my levels have jumped up since coming off the pump so am trying to get them back down, I recomend the course it really does help.

Jun 30, 2010 Rachie Wilson 9 posts	Topic: General Discussion / DAFNE and Employers I did my course back in January and I had the full week off with pay. I did come in after we had finished each days to bits and bobs but work have been great about it all and all the follow meetings as well.

Jun 30, 2010 Tony.P 16 posts	Topic: General Discussion / DAFNE and Employers My boss said I could take a week off as paid sick leave, mind you I take less sick leave than everybody else anyway! I do take the odd days leave for eye clincs ect though, don't like to take advantage.

Jun 29, 2010 Simon 578 posts	Topic: Carbohydrate Counting / Picnics (grr) Hi Jo, from reading other threads on the forums (and my own experiences) it seems that if your BG is above 10mmol/l then the normal DAFNE Rules of 1 unit of QA to drop it down by 2-3 mmol/l doesn't apply - you need a bit more insulin. I'd say try giving 1 extra unit, and add as necessary and see how you go.

Jun 29, 2010 Nat 30 posts	Topic: Carbohydrate Counting / Picnics (grr) What a great boyfriend doing that for you. I think you were right with your CP counting but I would have given +3 units as +2 would only drop you by about 6 and you really needed to be down to about 5.5 ideally. Perhaps try correcting slightly more.

Jun 29, 2010 Jo Penn 24 posts	Topic: Carbohydrate Counting / Vegetables My understanding is that DAFNE does not count Veggies because they are absorbed differently than startchy foods... Q for the HCPs I thinks

Jun 29, 2010 EMS 15 posts	Topic: Carbohydrate Counting / Vegetables Hi there, just wondering why there are no vegetables in the carb counter list, as far as i know, peas and carrots for example have plenty of carbs. Thanks Elli

Jun 29, 2010 Jo Penn 24 posts	Topic: Carbohydrate Counting / Picnics (grr) Blimey, my lovely boyfriend made me a lovely picnic and had 2 1/2 sandwiches and crisps and calculated to 9.5CP then 15CP (+2 Correction as was at 14.9mmol) but after that and a late meal was 16.1 before dinner... I am sure I calculated correctly... 5 slices bread (med) 7 1/2 CP and the crisps on a 1:1/2 ratio Any tips for next time? Thanks

Jun 29, 2010 novorapidboi26 1,819 posts	Topic: General Discussion / I want an insulin pump Now thats the kinda control where a pump would benefit in order to regulate delivery over longer periods................. Its strange that though..... I have one or two a week, and thats me got good control now........ I would love to learn about why people like yourself cupcake have so many hypos.................. Do you know why it is???? What units of insulin are you on??

Jun 29, 2010 cupcake 3 posts	Topic: General Discussion / I want an insulin pump I have been Diabetic for 7 years and finished DAFNE course 2 months ago. I am getting a pump next week and am very apprehensive about it. I have had no hypo awarness now for 18 months despite efforts to get these symptoms back. I have about 3 hypos a day at various times and many result in hospital treatment and fits. I would love to manage with my pen alone and the thought of excercise would be a dream but just not possible at the moment. However on my dafne course the consultant said that anybody who met the NICE criteria could request a pump and would be given one. I know two graduates who were on my course for that reason alone, even with relativly stable BG's. Good luck , hope you get what you want.

Jun 29, 2010 cupcake 3 posts	Topic: General Discussion / Corrections If you are unsure you could do a 3am BG test for a couple of nights then you will know if it is the CP or correction or not if it rises after about 4.30am It might help you to identify cause

Jun 28, 2010 Nat 30 posts	Topic: General Discussion / Target range? Hi Jo - I was feeling exactly the same until Saturday morning woke up in range spent the whole day in range even went to the pub and out for dinner. Sunday came and when I went to bed I was 19.1 (where did that come from). I corrected and woke up this morning back in range but just cannot explain it. Are you taking your background at the right times i.e. early enough before the previous dose runs out? Perhaps you could try eating a certain set diet for a day or two and then introduce other foods to see if it changes at all!

Jun 28, 2010 novorapidboi26 1,819 posts	Topic: General Discussion / Target range? If your sugars stay steady overnight, without any carbs, then your background is right, assuming its lantus and sometimes levemir... The next step is purely look for a pattern in your sugars. I have been doing it for a year and I am out of target everyday. But my haemaglobin is down. Try not to get to addicted to getting it perfect.... Post a few days up here by putting it in the diary that you can access on the right hand side, and we can all comment...........

Jun 28, 2010 Jo Penn 24 posts	Topic: General Discussion / Target range? Well - DAFNE going well, and seem to be maintaining the status quo with my background. However I am still not in DAFNE target... any tips/ideas? Jo

Jun 26, 2010 novorapidboi26 1,819 posts	Topic: General Discussion / Corrections My question is, when you have 1 CP at bed, what is your reading in the morning, it cant be that high unless you suffer from the dawn phenomonon, as I do. If you are in double figures in the morning it wont be the 10 gram of carbohydrate for sure. And if it is dawn phenomonon, you cant really do anything. And if following the DAFNE principles you dont take for 10 grams..................... If you are hypoing during the night, you must be correcting to much, unless its a background dose issue, but you would be experiencing lows all the time if that was the case. If it was me before bed, I wouldnt take cp for a blood reading of 5 as my background is correct. Even though the target is around the 7 mark. I recommend publishing you results for one of the nights in question, could get a better idea and maybe get some feedback from a HCP....

Jun 26, 2010 novorapidboi26 1,819 posts	Topic: Carbohydrate Counting / Risotto "what CP Rating is it? I think rice, fried or boiled is pretty much the same per 100g cooked, and therefore rissoto is the same.................. If anyone get the exact carbs add it in the carb section here................

Jun 26, 2010 novorapidboi26 1,819 posts	Topic: Carbohydrate Counting / taka way I agree, its basically a tub of rice, with prawns mixed in..................... The rice portion is in the dafne carb book................... good choice of take away, scrumptious...............

Jun 26, 2010 Nat 30 posts	Topic: Carbohydrate Counting / Risotto "what CP Rating is it? Personally I wouldn't count it as steamed as it is cooked in stock like boiled rice and steamed is as it says cooked in the steam only. Let me know how you get on as I too like risotto and have only completed the course a few days ago.