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May 16, 2011

novorapidboi26 1,819 posts

Topic: General Discussion / Levemir versus Lantus

AK said:
Just to confuse you with more conflicting advice: I have an active lifestyle and I found that 1 dose of Lantus wasn't flexible enough for me (usually because too much BI knocking around when I was exercising, meaning I just went hypo about 3 times in an hour of sport). Switching to 2 doses of Levimir is as close to perfection as I've come.

its not conflicting advice.....its a good example of how these two insulins can all benefit us all in different ways.............try everything in my opinion, test, write it down, and make a decision...........

being active as you say would require that flexibility provided by levemir................

i suppose in some ways, you could split the dose into more than 2 a day, theoretically, no one try this though, im no doctor................ Rolling Eyes

May 16, 2011

AK 16 posts

Topic: Questions for HCPs / Information on menstrual cycle

I didn't go back to the pill, I stayed on the coil because I like contraception I only have to think about once every 5 years! Having said that, you do get heavier periods, I never used to have pain but I do now (but I still think it's worth it Razz

) etc etc From the diabetes angle though, no difference between them.

May 16, 2011

AK 16 posts

Topic: General Discussion / Levemir versus Lantus

Just to confuse you with more conflicting advice: I have an active lifestyle and I found that 1 dose of Lantus wasn't flexible enough for me (usually because too much BI knocking around when I was exercising, meaning I just went hypo about 3 times in an hour of sport). Switching to 2 doses of Levimir is as close to perfection as I've come.

May 16, 2011

AK 16 posts

Topic: General Discussion / So what do you do?

Really interesting! JWo, I used to just leave my post to the other girl and have hot chocolate breaks! This only works if there are 2 of you though.

HelenP: That's good to know. Even if you're not a barrister, at least I know it's possible to pull off a hypo in public!

Tweety: That's really terrible, novorapidboi is right.

May 16, 2011

saxman 28 posts

Topic: General Discussion / Levemir versus Lantus

I have switched to levemir and my bg is stable and near normal compared to high spikes with lantus,I havent changed anything else so for me it works, has anyone got any information on using a pump??

May 16, 2011

novorapidboi26 1,819 posts

Topic: General Discussion / Levemir versus Lantus

Although Lantus and Levemir are pretty much the same, there most obvious difference is the length it lasts and also its effectiveness.........

I have been on 3 types, firstly Lantus, then Levemir, then Humilin I, then back to Levemir............with each insulin you may find yourself taking more or less, just because your on 16 units of Lantus doesn't mean it will be the same for Levemir or others.......the main motivation behind changing to Levemir as you all know is action time........

Some may have more stable, predictable blood sugars on Lantus, but the single dose just isn't flexible enough for the widely changing liver secretion throughout the day that some people, like myself, experience, so reliability may have to be sacrificed in order to get enough FLEXIBLE cover at all times of the day........

Although Diabetes has a mind of its own most of the time, the DAFNE principals do, in my opinion, make it clear.....if you blood sugars have went up, then its time to give yourself more insulin.......I was reluctant at times to up my BI doses, but if you have faith and follow the principals, it works, most of the time.....

Its all about finding what best suits your own needs and as other have done, splitting Lantus is also an option, you can literally try anything......

Keep up the good work....... Very Happy

May 16, 2011

ang78 12 posts

Topic: General Discussion / Levemir versus Lantus

I switched from Levemir to Lantus around 6 months ago. I find the Lantus much better and can hold my BG for the full 24 hrs but I suppose everyone is different and more suited to different things

Ang

May 16, 2011

novorapidboi26 1,819 posts

Topic: General Discussion / So what do you do?

tweety said:
I work in a factory and my managers are usually ok with me takin my breaks when i need them, needless to say they're not too happy when i need to go of the floor to fix a hypo, still tryin to work out my bi during my monthlys, so findin im hypo up to 3 times a day those wks. all in all i try to eat a few carbs at my workstation if i feel an symptoms of bein low rather than take time of floor to take bg test. i've had all sorts of problems with my work an my diabetes more bcoz they dont want to know about it they think its just a case of takin my medication and i should be fine to not bother with my diabetes for the rest of the day. my workmates are just as bad, they seem to think i enjoy bein hypo and have made comments like 'i wish i had diabetes, u get to take extra breaks and eat on the workfloor' bcoz my job is quite phsycal i wait till my bg is 4 or above after a hypo b4 i go back to work. I apologise that was more like a rant about how unsypathetic my work is where diabetes is concerned.

That seems like a bad situation, I used to work night shift in a factory and basically it was killing me, granted I was only on 2 injections a day and didn't really take care of myself, so hypo were not an issue and therefore did not bother my bosses. I took the first opportunity out of there I could........

For you this may not be feasible, even with the type of work you do they should be giving you some lee way to care for condition, if they dont they are in violation..........I would read up on Disability Discrimination on both the general front and within any documentation your employer can or has provided you with..........as soon as they hear discrimination you might find they are a bit more sympathetic..........and its likely you dont want to upset anyone, but a change in their attitude towards you will make your life a lot easier and ultimately enable you to work out how to manage your blood sugar to the best of your ability in your current work environment...

May 16, 2011

BigManRestless 2 posts

Topic: General Discussion / Levemir versus Lantus

I was moved to Levemir a few weeks ago, and started off the dosage recommended by my specialist at the hospital. My readings rocketed to an average of around 17mmols, with results in the high 20s not uncommon. I quickly upped the background dose, twice and still I'm not geting very good results at all. I'm lucky now to get anything under 10.
After three weeks of this, today I feel sluggish, with no energy at all. I'm really, really angry that I was taken off a background insulin that was working for me because I was taking "too much" according to the doctor, and now I'm having to take even more than I was before, for worse results.

May 15, 2011

tweety 13 posts

Topic: General Discussion / Do you usually ignore warnings to diabetics to 'consult your GP before use'?

I must admit I dont really look at the warnings on products, I belive they are just there so as novorapidboi put it 'the company can cover themselves'.

May 15, 2011

tweety 13 posts

Topic: General Discussion / So what do you do?

I work in a factory and my managers are usually ok with me takin my breaks when i need them, needless to say they're not too happy when i need to go of the floor to fix a hypo, still tryin to work out my bi during my monthlys, so findin im hypo up to 3 times a day those wks. all in all i try to eat a few carbs at my workstation if i feel an symptoms of bein low rather than take time of floor to take bg test. i've had all sorts of problems with my work an my diabetes more bcoz they dont want to know about it they think its just a case of takin my medication and i should be fine to not bother with my diabetes for the rest of the day. my workmates are just as bad, they seem to think i enjoy bein hypo and have made comments like 'i wish i had diabetes, u get to take extra breaks and eat on the workfloor' bcoz my job is quite phsycal i wait till my bg is 4 or above after a hypo b4 i go back to work. I apologise that was more like a rant about how unsypathetic my work is where diabetes is concerned.

May 15, 2011

linda-d 3 posts

Topic: Carbohydrate Counting / android apps

Thanks for that. Will try that one out. Have got rid of a couple already :-)

May 15, 2011

novorapidboi26 1,819 posts

Topic: Carbohydrate Counting / android apps

'on track diabetes' is really good, and free............ Smile

May 15, 2011

JayBee 587 posts

Topic: Questions for HCPs / Information on menstrual cycle

Thanks for posting AK. Smile

I would like to try the non-hormonal coil so I appreciate your feedback about your experience! I'm guessing you went back to the pill afterwards?

Okay, to touch in again on my progress. I have started having consistent higher body temps for the past couple of days and after a spell of good days, my BGs have been higher than expected.... what do we think? Time for me to consider putting my BI up perhaps? Smile

Based on what we see, I think that if I do, it'll only be up by 1BI in the evening. Smile

Will be seeing what happens in the next couple of days - for my body's confirmation as well (especially considering I really should be doing some after evening meal checks as well - whoops).

May 14, 2011

WullieIrvine 27 posts

Topic: General Discussion / So what do you do?

Fraid I don't do anything exciting. I am a registered nurse currently seeking work as I made the mistake of leaving the NHS 10 years ago and now can't get back in. I do wish that I had done DAFNE 10 years ago as t breaks very much depended on the business of the ward and what staff were on shift.
In saying that I learned very quickly to say "If I don't get something to eat now you'll be picking me up off the floor!"
They learned quickly to make sure I got my breaks lol

Wullie

May 14, 2011

linda-d 3 posts

Topic: Carbohydrate Counting / android apps

Hi folks, I have recently got my first smartphone and have downloaded a couple of diabetic tracking apps to test.

I was wondering if any of you have a personal preference if you have used these before. I am trying out the free ones rather than paying for things while I get used to how the phone works.

Thanks for any input.

Linda

May 14, 2011

JayBee 587 posts

Topic: General Discussion / Do you usually ignore warnings to diabetics to 'consult your GP before use'?

I am wary when I see it usually.... especially for certain feet treatment. It's only been at routine checkups that I've asked about this sort of thing and, well, when it came to my feet, the nurse recommended that I just let the problem solve itself than relying on any products. The problem (a Verruca) did just go on it's own on that note - took it's sweet time though lol.

I do think that once there is a lot more clarification about differences between the types, stuff like this will become clearer to understand. As novorapidboi26 suggested too, a lot of the time they mostly put it to cover themselves.

May 14, 2011

JayBee 587 posts

Topic: General Discussion / So what do you do?

I work as a Receptionist / Cashier at my local authority. My work load can be very demanding and unpredictable considering the customer demand is often very high. Sad

I have been investigating the effects of mental stimulation on my BGs for a good few years now and I do find that my BGs can drop when I'm say, on the cashier post which can be non-stop for most of the day, but I do just sit and just take payments or answer payment queries which does suggest that it's not physical exercise alone that makes BGs drop.

I'm so glad you've not had any diabetic issues with your previous reception work - it gets rather annoying some days for me! Used to never have the trouble I do now when one of the receptions I worked on was a lot quieter and I only worked for two departments... hardly had to worry at all!

May 14, 2011

JayBee 587 posts

Topic: Questions for HCPs / rice and pasta

I personally stick to the before cooking weight because Ive found it to be a lot more reliable. Once its cooked, if you need to split it, make sure you split the after cooking weight evenly because then you know how much to divide the before cooked CPs (I regularly have to split it by 2 so only have to half the before cooking CP total). So glad its only the weight that shifts due to water being absorbed or this would be madness lol.

May 16, 2011 novorapidboi26 1,819 posts	Topic: General Discussion / Levemir versus Lantus AK said: Just to confuse you with more conflicting advice: I have an active lifestyle and I found that 1 dose of Lantus wasn't flexible enough for me (usually because too much BI knocking around when I was exercising, meaning I just went hypo about 3 times in an hour of sport). Switching to 2 doses of Levimir is as close to perfection as I've come. its not conflicting advice.....its a good example of how these two insulins can all benefit us all in different ways.............try everything in my opinion, test, write it down, and make a decision........... being active as you say would require that flexibility provided by levemir................ i suppose in some ways, you could split the dose into more than 2 a day, theoretically, no one try this though, im no doctor................

May 16, 2011 AK 16 posts	Topic: Questions for HCPs / Information on menstrual cycle I didn't go back to the pill, I stayed on the coil because I like contraception I only have to think about once every 5 years! Having said that, you do get heavier periods, I never used to have pain but I do now (but I still think it's worth it ) etc etc From the diabetes angle though, no difference between them.

May 16, 2011 AK 16 posts	Topic: General Discussion / Levemir versus Lantus Just to confuse you with more conflicting advice: I have an active lifestyle and I found that 1 dose of Lantus wasn't flexible enough for me (usually because too much BI knocking around when I was exercising, meaning I just went hypo about 3 times in an hour of sport). Switching to 2 doses of Levimir is as close to perfection as I've come.

May 16, 2011 AK 16 posts	Topic: General Discussion / So what do you do? Really interesting! JWo, I used to just leave my post to the other girl and have hot chocolate breaks! This only works if there are 2 of you though. HelenP: That's good to know. Even if you're not a barrister, at least I know it's possible to pull off a hypo in public! Tweety: That's really terrible, novorapidboi is right.

May 16, 2011 saxman 28 posts	Topic: General Discussion / Levemir versus Lantus I have switched to levemir and my bg is stable and near normal compared to high spikes with lantus,I havent changed anything else so for me it works, has anyone got any information on using a pump??

May 16, 2011 novorapidboi26 1,819 posts	Topic: General Discussion / Levemir versus Lantus Although Lantus and Levemir are pretty much the same, there most obvious difference is the length it lasts and also its effectiveness......... I have been on 3 types, firstly Lantus, then Levemir, then Humilin I, then back to Levemir............with each insulin you may find yourself taking more or less, just because your on 16 units of Lantus doesn't mean it will be the same for Levemir or others.......the main motivation behind changing to Levemir as you all know is action time........ Some may have more stable, predictable blood sugars on Lantus, but the single dose just isn't flexible enough for the widely changing liver secretion throughout the day that some people, like myself, experience, so reliability may have to be sacrificed in order to get enough FLEXIBLE cover at all times of the day........ Although Diabetes has a mind of its own most of the time, the DAFNE principals do, in my opinion, make it clear.....if you blood sugars have went up, then its time to give yourself more insulin.......I was reluctant at times to up my BI doses, but if you have faith and follow the principals, it works, most of the time..... Its all about finding what best suits your own needs and as other have done, splitting Lantus is also an option, you can literally try anything...... Keep up the good work.......

May 16, 2011 ang78 12 posts	Topic: General Discussion / Levemir versus Lantus I switched from Levemir to Lantus around 6 months ago. I find the Lantus much better and can hold my BG for the full 24 hrs but I suppose everyone is different and more suited to different things Ang

May 16, 2011 novorapidboi26 1,819 posts	Topic: General Discussion / So what do you do? tweety said: I work in a factory and my managers are usually ok with me takin my breaks when i need them, needless to say they're not too happy when i need to go of the floor to fix a hypo, still tryin to work out my bi during my monthlys, so findin im hypo up to 3 times a day those wks. all in all i try to eat a few carbs at my workstation if i feel an symptoms of bein low rather than take time of floor to take bg test. i've had all sorts of problems with my work an my diabetes more bcoz they dont want to know about it they think its just a case of takin my medication and i should be fine to not bother with my diabetes for the rest of the day. my workmates are just as bad, they seem to think i enjoy bein hypo and have made comments like 'i wish i had diabetes, u get to take extra breaks and eat on the workfloor' bcoz my job is quite phsycal i wait till my bg is 4 or above after a hypo b4 i go back to work. I apologise that was more like a rant about how unsypathetic my work is where diabetes is concerned. That seems like a bad situation, I used to work night shift in a factory and basically it was killing me, granted I was only on 2 injections a day and didn't really take care of myself, so hypo were not an issue and therefore did not bother my bosses. I took the first opportunity out of there I could........ For you this may not be feasible, even with the type of work you do they should be giving you some lee way to care for condition, if they dont they are in violation..........I would read up on Disability Discrimination on both the general front and within any documentation your employer can or has provided you with..........as soon as they hear discrimination you might find they are a bit more sympathetic..........and its likely you dont want to upset anyone, but a change in their attitude towards you will make your life a lot easier and ultimately enable you to work out how to manage your blood sugar to the best of your ability in your current work environment...

May 16, 2011 BigManRestless 2 posts	Topic: General Discussion / Levemir versus Lantus I was moved to Levemir a few weeks ago, and started off the dosage recommended by my specialist at the hospital. My readings rocketed to an average of around 17mmols, with results in the high 20s not uncommon. I quickly upped the background dose, twice and still I'm not geting very good results at all. I'm lucky now to get anything under 10. After three weeks of this, today I feel sluggish, with no energy at all. I'm really, really angry that I was taken off a background insulin that was working for me because I was taking "too much" according to the doctor, and now I'm having to take even more than I was before, for worse results.

May 15, 2011 tweety 13 posts	Topic: General Discussion / Do you usually ignore warnings to diabetics to 'consult your GP before use'? I must admit I dont really look at the warnings on products, I belive they are just there so as novorapidboi put it 'the company can cover themselves'.

May 15, 2011 tweety 13 posts	Topic: General Discussion / So what do you do? I work in a factory and my managers are usually ok with me takin my breaks when i need them, needless to say they're not too happy when i need to go of the floor to fix a hypo, still tryin to work out my bi during my monthlys, so findin im hypo up to 3 times a day those wks. all in all i try to eat a few carbs at my workstation if i feel an symptoms of bein low rather than take time of floor to take bg test. i've had all sorts of problems with my work an my diabetes more bcoz they dont want to know about it they think its just a case of takin my medication and i should be fine to not bother with my diabetes for the rest of the day. my workmates are just as bad, they seem to think i enjoy bein hypo and have made comments like 'i wish i had diabetes, u get to take extra breaks and eat on the workfloor' bcoz my job is quite phsycal i wait till my bg is 4 or above after a hypo b4 i go back to work. I apologise that was more like a rant about how unsypathetic my work is where diabetes is concerned.

May 15, 2011 linda-d 3 posts	Topic: Carbohydrate Counting / android apps Thanks for that. Will try that one out. Have got rid of a couple already :-)

May 15, 2011 novorapidboi26 1,819 posts	Topic: Carbohydrate Counting / android apps 'on track diabetes' is really good, and free............

May 15, 2011 JayBee 587 posts	Topic: Questions for HCPs / Information on menstrual cycle Thanks for posting AK. I would like to try the non-hormonal coil so I appreciate your feedback about your experience! I'm guessing you went back to the pill afterwards? Okay, to touch in again on my progress. I have started having consistent higher body temps for the past couple of days and after a spell of good days, my BGs have been higher than expected.... what do we think? Time for me to consider putting my BI up perhaps? Based on what we see, I think that if I do, it'll only be up by 1BI in the evening. Will be seeing what happens in the next couple of days - for my body's confirmation as well (especially considering I really should be doing some after evening meal checks as well - whoops).

May 14, 2011 WullieIrvine 27 posts	Topic: General Discussion / So what do you do? Fraid I don't do anything exciting. I am a registered nurse currently seeking work as I made the mistake of leaving the NHS 10 years ago and now can't get back in. I do wish that I had done DAFNE 10 years ago as t breaks very much depended on the business of the ward and what staff were on shift. In saying that I learned very quickly to say "If I don't get something to eat now you'll be picking me up off the floor!" They learned quickly to make sure I got my breaks lol Wullie

May 14, 2011 linda-d 3 posts	Topic: Carbohydrate Counting / android apps Hi folks, I have recently got my first smartphone and have downloaded a couple of diabetic tracking apps to test. I was wondering if any of you have a personal preference if you have used these before. I am trying out the free ones rather than paying for things while I get used to how the phone works. Thanks for any input. Linda

May 14, 2011 JayBee 587 posts	Topic: General Discussion / Do you usually ignore warnings to diabetics to 'consult your GP before use'? I am wary when I see it usually.... especially for certain feet treatment. It's only been at routine checkups that I've asked about this sort of thing and, well, when it came to my feet, the nurse recommended that I just let the problem solve itself than relying on any products. The problem (a Verruca) did just go on it's own on that note - took it's sweet time though lol. I do think that once there is a lot more clarification about differences between the types, stuff like this will become clearer to understand. As novorapidboi26 suggested too, a lot of the time they mostly put it to cover themselves.

May 14, 2011 JayBee 587 posts	Topic: General Discussion / So what do you do? I work as a Receptionist / Cashier at my local authority. My work load can be very demanding and unpredictable considering the customer demand is often very high. I have been investigating the effects of mental stimulation on my BGs for a good few years now and I do find that my BGs can drop when I'm say, on the cashier post which can be non-stop for most of the day, but I do just sit and just take payments or answer payment queries which does suggest that it's not physical exercise alone that makes BGs drop. I'm so glad you've not had any diabetic issues with your previous reception work - it gets rather annoying some days for me! Used to never have the trouble I do now when one of the receptions I worked on was a lot quieter and I only worked for two departments... hardly had to worry at all!

May 14, 2011 JayBee 587 posts	Topic: Questions for HCPs / rice and pasta I personally stick to the before cooking weight because Ive found it to be a lot more reliable. Once its cooked, if you need to split it, make sure you split the after cooking weight evenly because then you know how much to divide the before cooked CPs (I regularly have to split it by 2 so only have to half the before cooking CP total). So glad its only the weight that shifts due to water being absorbed or this would be madness lol.