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Jun 10, 2011
Welshmapleleaf 19 posts

Topic: General Discussion / How can you work out HBA1c by using your BG averages? Is it possible?

Hi guys,

Just graduated from DAFNE today!!!! This would be a really cool addition to the analysis on the site!!

I am looking forward to my next set of results (which can only get better!!!) but a bit of a guide to what I can expect would be amazing!

Anyway, I'm looking forward to making a meaningful contribution to the forums as I put into practice what I've just learned.....and continue to learn!
 
Jun 10, 2011
novorapidboi26 1,819 posts

Topic: General Discussion / Some advice please

derekh1965 said:


Well at 12:37 today my BS was 5.7. Never had any lunch, no food has passed my lips since breakfast.
Tested 5 mins ago and my BS is 4.1. So looks like my morning BI is working fine. Just ned to get my evening 1 sorted and I will be a happy man:-)
Although no big rush as my morning BS has been high for the past 17/18 yrs.

DAFNE was what I needed years ago.



thats sounds good, your closer than you think then......
 
Jun 10, 2011
novorapidboi26 1,819 posts

Topic: General Discussion / How can you work out HBA1c by using your BG averages? Is it possible?

Simon said:
Novorapidboi - where did you get this from? I could incorporate it into the Diary on here...




Heard it from a few people on other forums, but it is derived from the formula to work out average BG from an HbA1c result...........one of many sources can be found here........

are you saying you could fire those numbers in to the diary and have a an estimated HbA1c, cool...........you would need to stress its only a guess, or a broad estimate.......
 
Jun 10, 2011
Simon 578 posts

Topic: General Discussion / How can you work out HBA1c by using your BG averages? Is it possible?

Novorapidboi - where did you get this from? I could incorporate it into the Diary on here...
 
Jun 10, 2011
derekh1965 90 posts

Topic: General Discussion / Some advice please



Well at 12:37 today my BS was 5.7. Never had any lunch, no food has passed my lips since breakfast.
Tested 5 mins ago and my BS is 4.1. So looks like my morning BI is working fine. Just ned to get my evening 1 sorted and I will be a happy man:-)
Although no big rush as my morning BS has been high for the past 17/18 yrs.

DAFNE was what I needed years ago.
 
Jun 10, 2011
navman2000 5 posts

Topic: General Discussion / How can you work out HBA1c by using your BG averages? Is it possible?

Thanks... Yeah my overall control since DAFNE has been brilliant, never seen such great BG readings before, always was on the high side of things, and hopefullu this time round HBA1c will have improved from the 11 i had to something a bit more within range Smile
 
Jun 10, 2011
novorapidboi26 1,819 posts

Topic: General Discussion / Some advice please

No doubt your childhood has resulted in certain behaviors as an adult...............

Its OK to have something to eat before bed every night, and its also OK to have lots of carbs before bed if you want to as well, but when testing your doses ,as many variables if not all variables have to be removed ,that's what the step wise approach teaches..........

The likelihood is that your low carb snack before bed wont be effecting your overnight numbers that much if any, but you cant be sure, so in order to be confident the dose is right, you need to see it on paper, telling you, with no carbs or QA working away overnight, your BG held steady or went up or down........

Sorry if I am being repetitive.............. Sad

How did your lunchtime readings go....................I am having a few problems myself right now as well...........started going low mid morning (possible effects from previous evening exercise), and getting large spikes between lunch and dinner, its a never ending battle......... Wink
 
Jun 10, 2011
derekh1965 90 posts

Topic: General Discussion / Some advice please

I basically have the same every night. n the nights when I had CPs I had a bowl of low fat creme fraiche and 100g of blueberries (5g carbs).

A lot of times I can have both, sweet and savory. The bowls are small ikea bowls so not a massive amount but enough to satisfy my physocological craving.

I had a good stable upbringing and my mother and father are still together after 53 years but there was never any love shown.

When I went to secondary school and met new mates I can remember one of them going out and kissing his mum and telling her he loved him and I found that totally weird., said to him n"do you give your mum a kiss!!". I most probably used food to feel love and they say childhood affect's you for the rest of your life.

Maybe I need some hypnotism or EFT (emotional freedom technique). If you've never heard of it I would Google it. It does work. My girlfriend was petrified of spiders for years,. Would hyperventilate. 1 hour session and she was cured. For it to work you have to get to the root cause of your problem and I don't know what caused my problem.


The amount I have wrote there sounds like I need some counseling, lol.


 
Jun 10, 2011
novorapidboi26 1,819 posts

Topic: General Discussion / Some advice please

derekh1965 said:
Yes, had a snack. Eat every night, unfortunately. A habit I've had since about 5 yrs old.



And one which you dont need to give up, but for effective basal testing, its the only way...............what did you have to eat.........
 
Jun 10, 2011
derekh1965 90 posts

Topic: General Discussion / Some advice please

Yes, had a snack. Eat every night, unfortunately. A habit I've had since about 5 yrs old.
 
Jun 10, 2011
novorapidboi26 1,819 posts

Topic: General Discussion / Some advice please

You should try and get a 3am result, that way you will know its the dawn phenomenon and that even though you are taking your BI dose immediately before bed or later on in your case, nothing can stop its effects............

If by 3 am you have went up then you know you need more BI, although there are no carbs in that meal, it will eventually be used as energy/glucose, so if you can, have nothing, its hard, but necessary........

On the Tuesday you were 10.7 and had 6 units correction, then woke up 9.8, did you have a snack that night, like cheese and peppers......?
 
Jun 10, 2011
derekh1965 90 posts

Topic: General Discussion / Some advice please

Hi Novorapidboi

Shock this morning and very disappointing. Woke with a BS of 13.7!
Not what I was expecting.

For bedtime food I had a small bowl of cheese, Hellmans mayo light and a handful of chopped pepper. No carbs there and I jump up almost 8mmol overnight!!

I should maybe have 1 cp for supper and see how that goes as other nights when I have had cp I wasn't as high as I am this morning.
 
Jun 10, 2011
novorapidboi26 1,819 posts

Topic: General Discussion / Some advice please

Hey Derek............

There are definitely improvements coming, even if they are no that obvious, it seems as though your insulin/carb ratios will be coming down a bit once the BI is sorted......

Keeping the BI doses the same time every day is a good idea as your body will get used to that cycle of insulin, so keep that up.........to test your evening BI effectiveness its best to take no QA insulin before bed, so at 2330, have no insulin, even if you are just above target..then this way you can tell whether your BI dose has held you steady, at least until 3, 4, 5 am till the dawn phenomenon kicks off.......

I see you were having some lows between lunch and dinner, this being due to your ratio change, remember you can go up and down in 0.5s as well, instead of the jump from 4:1 to 3:1, the smaller increment may be what you need, however always remember your insulin/carb ratios will never be perfect until the BI is sorted, and in my opinion, you are not there just yet, but nearly though.....

I look forward to seeing todays results, especially the morning, as you had no carbs or insulin before bed, and you were on target, so anything between 4.5 - 7.5 and your there........and you can always repeat the dose again with no carbs to confirm..........

Well done so far................. Very Happy
 
Jun 10, 2011
novorapidboi26 1,819 posts

Topic: General Discussion / How can you work out HBA1c by using your BG averages? Is it possible?

The formula you speak of is:

HbA1c = Average BG (90 day) + 2.52 / 1.583

In all honesty it has always been roughly 0.5% out for me, but it all depends on how many tests you have done each day etc..........in theory if you tested every hour every day for 90 days, then you would have the best chance of getting the prediction/calculation as accurate as possible........however its only an estimate, I dont think anyone expects anything more than that...............

Pre DAFNE I was 11.8, 3 months later I was 8.2.............

Oh, and good luck with your test, I am sure there will be a great improvement................. Wink
 
Jun 9, 2011
derekh1965 90 posts

Topic: General Discussion / Some advice please

Hi Novorapidboi

Just an update. I ma up to 30 BI from tonight and taking the BI at regular times, 10:30 and 22:30 as the evening one was at all different times.

I have included my diary7 for the past few days
 
Jun 9, 2011
Jenny 27 posts

Topic: Questions for HCPs / Blood Glucose range whilst pregnant

Hello

I needed my before bed blood sugar to be around 10 when I was pregnant as it always seemed to drop overnight. Adjusting bi did not stop this. Always had good hba1c (around 6) in both pregnancies but 1st born at 36 weeks (8lb 13oz) and 2nd at 35 weeks (9lb 4oz). Both planned c section due to failing placenta. So infact my insulin requirements dropped in last trimester instead of going up and this was a sign that my placenta was failing.

 
Jun 9, 2011
navman2000 5 posts

Topic: General Discussion / How can you work out HBA1c by using your BG averages? Is it possible?

I have heard you can calculate what your HBA1c could be by using a certain formula to calculate it. Any ideas people? Since i have been on DAFNE my BG have been well managed, and always within range, before i had done DAFNE my HBA1c was 11 Sad i am hoping this time round it has improved Smile
 
Jun 9, 2011
derekh1965 90 posts

Topic: General Discussion / Westin Gourmet Meat



Hi

I don't know if this is any good to anyone. This site sells online meat from free to roam animals.
Tastes delicious especially the corn fed chicken supreme.
Next day delivery is usually $7.50 but £3.75 today with no minimum order.

Full details on website

http://www.westingourmet.co.uk/delivery-extended?utm_source=offeremail&utm_medium=email&utm_content=mainbanner&utm_campaign=halfpricedeliveryextended

Don't know how to create hyperlink.

Hope it is of use to someone.


Derek

 
Jun 6, 2011
saxman 28 posts

Topic: General Discussion / Levemir versus Lantus

ClaireH said:
IM trying an isophane for 2 months first

I have began to note in my diary what I eat before bed to try and see if a pattern emerges with high bg and certain food, also I try to take my eve bI at the same time. and after 6 days my morn tests are within range.. just a thought for you ClaireH
 
Jun 6, 2011
ClaireH 14 posts

Topic: General Discussion / Levemir versus Lantus

IM trying an isophane for 2 months first