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Sep 25, 2012

novorapidboi26 1,819 posts

Results would be good as Alan says as ultimately it the results that will tell YOU, and us what you need to do......

In order to change your QA ratios you need to have 2-3 days of high readings at the breakfast, lunch and dinner tests............and this information can only be reliable if your BI dose or doses are right...

Is it/Are they? [confirmed by carb free meals/missing a meal/overnight testing]

Often with large increases in BI comes reductions in QA..........

Sep 25, 2012

novorapidboi26 1,819 posts

Topic: General Discussion / Result.

Spread the joy........ Very Happy

Sep 25, 2012

Alan 49 284 posts

Topic: Questions for HCPs / bi

Hello Susie
I think it would help us to make a judgement if you included your diary entries in your post - the option is beneath the area where you put your post.

Alan

Sep 25, 2012

JayBee 587 posts

Topic: General Discussion / Result.

AshleyB said:
I miss read JWo, I know you didn't think i'm a woman, I've got my morning eye in.

No worries! Don't you just love the confusion of the internet? ;P

The over night results and today's results so far have been interesting! I'm starting to think that perhaps the illness/stress/whatever the hell it was is easing up now and my "normal" numbers are back... have a lookie above (the diary will also automatically update as I do my blood tests still)!

Based on these numbers (especially if they stay fairly consistent to the past few days) I will be putting my morning BI up tomorrow for sure now. Very Happy

My HbA1c has been around 8.9-9% consistently for the last year or so but it has started dropping (my last one back in June/July was 8.4% which for someone who's not seen a drop for a very long time, after a lot of DAFNE work too, this is a massive achievement - something is now working!). With all the extra personal troubles I've had in the past year or so though, to have numbers so much easier to work with, I could cry with happiness now!

Things can only get better! Smile

I'm so glad we can all relate. It's so important to realise that this condition will never been all black and white, and you're only working against yourself if you generalise with the knowledge. DAFNE is a guideline that encourages adjustment through pattern searching - an excellent help to those who need it (which imo should be everyone anyway, especially newly diagnosed!).

Sorry, I'll pipe down now... touched into my "DAFNE advocacy mode" a bit there, lol. XD

AshleyB said:
Any how once ive moved over to levimur i will upload some diary entries so you guys can have a look.
Hopefully i will have pages of Greens readings,

Looking forward to it! Smile

I was another that was on Lantus and then I moved to Levemir. I can't imagine going back. Levemir has been way too helpful. Lantus used to run out shortly after lunch for me and I was like that for years before I did DAFNE. Went split dose after the discovery and after still having problems, I moved to Levemir because "it's an insulin designed for split dosing" I was told. Smile

A lot less trouble - it's almost like it's not as "strong" as Lantus so less prone to hypos. Sweet relief!

Sep 25, 2012

susieq 19 posts

Topic: Questions for HCPs / bi

having increased my bi by 4u since my dafne course, i was wondering if I ought to decrease my Qa ratios, as I seem to go quite low often during the day. my ratio's at the moment are 1.5:1 should I decrease the ratio or just knock off a unit or two?

Sep 25, 2012

novorapidboi26 1,819 posts

Topic: General Discussion / Education

I am confident you will get some good information from there... Smile

Sep 25, 2012

jonmac 6 posts

Topic: General Discussion / Education

I'm now signed up for the Bournemouth online course and so far so good. Many thanks for the tip!

Sep 25, 2012

AshleyB 10 posts

Topic: General Discussion / Result.

Thanks Vic, On the course it was proven that my lanctus wasn't lasting the full day with me, maybe because of my fast metabolic rate of burning energy.

Any how once ive moved over to levimur i will upload some diary entries so you guys can have a look.

Hopefully i will have pages of Greens readings,

I do tend to eat a lot and not inject when snacking and add the CP's to the next meal. Maybe I should start actually using the priciples of injecting followed by eating.

Razz

Sep 25, 2012

AshleyB 10 posts

Topic: General Discussion / Result.

I miss read JWo, I know you didn't think i'm a woman, I've got my morning eye in. Shocked

Sep 25, 2012

AshleyB 10 posts

Topic: General Discussion / Result.

Just to let you know, I am a man. Don't want any confussion. I didn't take offence JWo. LOL x

Its really P ing me off at the min as i'm always high and making corrections. I can't wait to get on the levimur to get a steady BI.

Over the last 14 days ive averaged 13mmol/L

Vic what BI do you take, mines Lanctus at the minute.

AshleyB a Bloke lol..

Sep 25, 2012

jonmac 6 posts

Topic: General Discussion / Education

Thanks for the info on the Bournemouth online course. I'll check it out today. I'm hoping for a cure before I'm 70 so I can live out the rest of my life without hassle.

Sep 24, 2012

JayBee 587 posts

Topic: General Discussion / Result.

AshleyB said:
Hello, Ive just been looking into your readings. Please don't take it as gospel but this is what my wife and I think.

No probs!

Firstly you mentioned your not feeling 100% so straight away that makes me think you may need to change your base line insulin.

Maybe.

Also you are eating again after your second base line at dinner coz your going low in the evening\night.

I eat again after dinner usually because it's desert! ;P I know it's a bad practice to split my meal but at least I'm not snacking to get through the night. Also, that 3.9BG during the night may have been caused by the before bed correction so I'm not going to say BI just yet. That time was pretty strange.. 1QA would drop me by 8BG... I was taking 17 BI in the evening then though.

Maybe you should lower your evening BI by 2 or 4 units 20%.

I do already have some concerns with the evening BI so this is why I'm doing the 3am tonight. Smile

In all honesty, it's work in progress. I'm not 100% on the evening BI being right. I did have it at 15BI briefly before this, but when I hit some highs after dinner before bed (I will add the day on this post - period 14Sept to 18Sept - to help) on that occasion, it was decided that I'd change back to 16 and try adjusting the meal ratio instead first. Hasn't done too bad so far, so I'm back to checking the overnight testing... I've given it at least 4 days too to work out if 1:1 works (which it seems to rather well).

Your morning BI could be too low or your morning ratio for breakfast QA is wrong.

I often hypo without fail for 1:1 meal ratios based on past trials so I'm gonna take this as yes, try 13BI tomorrow and see how it goes... however, I may change my mind if I hypo at 3am... decisions, decisions! I feel so spoilt for choice on what to fix first! XD Hypos any time sure are a pain in the bum!

I appreciate some of the advice - most of it was not needed. Thanks though. Smile

I hope you don't have as much trouble as vic and I have had over the 3 years since doing DAFNE.

AshleyB said:
If you increase morning BI do it by 2 or 3 not 1

I am insulin sensitive so often 2 can be too much. Sad

This is something you may come across if you're an active person... DAFNE is not set in stone - it is just a guide; you will need to learn your needs by adjusting the guide.

Sep 24, 2012

AshleyB 10 posts

Topic: General Discussion / Result.

If you increase morning BI do it by 2 or 3 not 1

Thanks
AshleyB

Sep 24, 2012

AshleyB 10 posts

Topic: General Discussion / Result.

Hello, Ive just been looking into your readings. Please don't take it as gospel but this is what my wife and I think.
Firstly you mentioned your not feeling 100% so straight away that makes me think you may need to change your base line insulin.
Also you are eating again after your second base line at dinner coz your going low in the evening\night. Maybe you should lower your evening BI by 2 or 4 units 20%.
Your morning BI could be too low or your morning ratio for breakfast QA is wrong.
I was advised not to change to many things at once. Test you morning BI and evening BI First.
Try carb free dinner etc
Try a carb free breakfast and lunch to get your morning BI right.
Please don't correct After night hypo's, DAFNE's golden rule " hypo in the night ajust evening BI by 2-4 unit 20%".
Maybe you need to inject your QA in your stomach more so you get the insulin quicker.
This is what think, I hope some of this information is helpful, please take a look at the online handbook to look at sick day rules. Maybe useful.
Thanks
AshleyB

Sep 24, 2012

JayBee 587 posts

Topic: General Discussion / Result.

Let's throw this out there.

I'm considering 13BI in the morning with these numbers... should I, in your opinions? I'm torn, and starting to struggle with my patience a bit. ;P

Also planning to attempt a 3am check again tonight. Oh what fun.

Sep 24, 2012

NikkiAllen 3 posts

Topic: General Discussion / Bayer Contour USB meters

It due to the regulations regarding how accurate test strips need to be. The Next strips are more accurate and will meet the new regulations.

Sep 24, 2012

novorapidboi26 1,819 posts

Topic: General Discussion / Bayer Contour USB meters

could be for any number of reasons, but most likely money will be involved somewhere, either to make it, or save it........ Very Happy

its likely the price of these strips aren't much different from each other so the GP should be cool........

Sep 24, 2012

novorapidboi26 1,819 posts

Topic: General Discussion / Education

http://www.bdec-e-learning.com/

that's the Bournemouth online course that I have heard is really good. Obviously you should push for DAFNE, even if your closest clinic does not do it, you can try others......

aged 60 and becoming type 1, wow........its seems that cases like yours are becoming much more common.....

Sep 23, 2012

Deadly 8 posts

Topic: General Discussion / Bayer Contour USB meters

I have been using the Bayer Contour USB metre for some time now and I am very happy with it. They have now released the Contour Next Metre which includeds a number of new features. But to be able to use it you must have a different type of test strip called Contour Next.

Does anyone know why they have done this, and why they couldn't just enhance the meter and keep the same test strips. It's just a nuisance when you have to ask your GP to change the test strip you use.

Thanks
David

Sep 23, 2012

AshleyB 10 posts

Topic: General Discussion / Result.

Thanks Vic, let me know how you get on. I'm still getting high towards night. Waiting to get moved over to levimir. I think Dafne should be available to all type 1's without a stupid waiting list. I can't grumble as I only waited a year. There were people on my course who have been waiting 9 years.

Sep 22, 2012

AshleyB 10 posts

Topic: General Discussion / Result.

You could have a dawn phenominum where your liver kicks out glucose at 3am. Try a carb free dinner and do a 3am blood check.
You may benift from changing to levimir rather than the Lantus as that may be only lasting about 18-20hrs hence the increase before bed thats if your taking the correct QA with dinner.

Just had the dafne couse this week, its still fresh in the head.

AshleyB

Sep 22, 2012

maria51 22 posts

Topic: Questions for HCPs / Has anyone else had this happen?

marke said:
Hi,
Since this is most likely an allergic reaction it won't make any difference what part of your body you inject it in surely. You are not less allergic to it in your
stomach than your thigh. Its not a major reaction since it sounds like its confined to the injection site, none the less its probably major to you ! NovaCare do have a helpline listed in Oz but the reality is they will be trained in Insulin not allergies. You need to see your diabetes team/doctor really and see what your options are.
Suprisingly (or not) Levemir doesn't just contain Insulin but a number of other ingredients, they are listed here and chances are your body is reacting to one of these things. As others have said you can inject both QA and BI in most sites however the rate of absorbtion does vary so if you do try swapping you probably need to test a bit more to ensure what effect the change has had, remembering that changes may not be immediate but occur over a couple of days.
Sorry I know I haven't helped much, you can try the number on the site I quoted, they should have someone available most of the time if the rules are the same as the UK and they may at least be able to offer some useful advice.

Thank you too Marke, am less confused now and at least I have more info to think about before I see the DE and Endo on Tuesday. Cheers.

Sep 22, 2012

maria51 22 posts

Topic: Questions for HCPs / Has anyone else had this happen?

Phil Maskell said:
Hi,

In all honesty with newer insulins unless you have absorption problems NovoRapid should be fine in thighs, just don't run or cycle after as this will speed up absorption due to muscle use.

Everyones different though so you may have issues with it, but I never have.

Have you tried Levemir in your stomach though? Does it swell up there?

Phil

Thanks Phil for your reply, I haven't done Levemir in stomach but tried it in my butt for the first time last night then checked this morning and had no swelling. Will use it there until I see my DE on Tuesday.

Sep 21, 2012

marke 681 posts

Topic: Questions for HCPs / Has anyone else had this happen?

Hi,
Since this is most likely an allergic reaction it won't make any difference what part of your body you inject it in surely. You are not less allergic to it in your
stomach than your thigh. Its not a major reaction since it sounds like its confined to the injection site, none the less its probably major to you ! NovaCare do have a helpline listed in Oz but the reality is they will be trained in Insulin not allergies. You need to see your diabetes team/doctor really and see what your options are.
Suprisingly (or not) Levemir doesn't just contain Insulin but a number of other ingredients, they are listed here and chances are your body is reacting to one of these things. As others have said you can inject both QA and BI in most sites however the rate of absorbtion does vary so if you do try swapping you probably need to test a bit more to ensure what effect the change has had, remembering that changes may not be immediate but occur over a couple of days.
Sorry I know I haven't helped much, you can try the number on the site I quoted, they should have someone available most of the time if the rules are the same as the UK and they may at least be able to offer some useful advice.

Sep 25, 2012 novorapidboi26 1,819 posts	Topic: Questions for HCPs / bi Results would be good as Alan says as ultimately it the results that will tell YOU, and us what you need to do...... In order to change your QA ratios you need to have 2-3 days of high readings at the breakfast, lunch and dinner tests............and this information can only be reliable if your BI dose or doses are right... Is it/Are they? [confirmed by carb free meals/missing a meal/overnight testing] Often with large increases in BI comes reductions in QA..........

Sep 25, 2012 novorapidboi26 1,819 posts	Topic: General Discussion / Result. Spread the joy........

Sep 25, 2012 Alan 49 284 posts	Topic: Questions for HCPs / bi Hello Susie I think it would help us to make a judgement if you included your diary entries in your post - the option is beneath the area where you put your post. Alan

Sep 25, 2012 JayBee 587 posts	Topic: General Discussion / Result. AshleyB said: I miss read JWo, I know you didn't think i'm a woman, I've got my morning eye in. No worries! Don't you just love the confusion of the internet? ;P The over night results and today's results so far have been interesting! I'm starting to think that perhaps the illness/stress/whatever the hell it was is easing up now and my "normal" numbers are back... have a lookie above (the diary will also automatically update as I do my blood tests still)! Based on these numbers (especially if they stay fairly consistent to the past few days) I will be putting my morning BI up tomorrow for sure now. My HbA1c has been around 8.9-9% consistently for the last year or so but it has started dropping (my last one back in June/July was 8.4% which for someone who's not seen a drop for a very long time, after a lot of DAFNE work too, this is a massive achievement - something is now working!). With all the extra personal troubles I've had in the past year or so though, to have numbers so much easier to work with, I could cry with happiness now! Things can only get better! I'm so glad we can all relate. It's so important to realise that this condition will never been all black and white, and you're only working against yourself if you generalise with the knowledge. DAFNE is a guideline that encourages adjustment through pattern searching - an excellent help to those who need it (which imo should be everyone anyway, especially newly diagnosed!). Sorry, I'll pipe down now... touched into my "DAFNE advocacy mode" a bit there, lol. XD AshleyB said: Any how once ive moved over to levimur i will upload some diary entries so you guys can have a look. Hopefully i will have pages of Greens readings, Looking forward to it! I was another that was on Lantus and then I moved to Levemir. I can't imagine going back. Levemir has been way too helpful. Lantus used to run out shortly after lunch for me and I was like that for years before I did DAFNE. Went split dose after the discovery and after still having problems, I moved to Levemir because "it's an insulin designed for split dosing" I was told. A lot less trouble - it's almost like it's not as "strong" as Lantus so less prone to hypos. Sweet relief!

Sep 25, 2012 susieq 19 posts	Topic: Questions for HCPs / bi having increased my bi by 4u since my dafne course, i was wondering if I ought to decrease my Qa ratios, as I seem to go quite low often during the day. my ratio's at the moment are 1.5:1 should I decrease the ratio or just knock off a unit or two?

Sep 25, 2012 novorapidboi26 1,819 posts	Topic: General Discussion / Education I am confident you will get some good information from there...

Sep 25, 2012 jonmac 6 posts	Topic: General Discussion / Education I'm now signed up for the Bournemouth online course and so far so good. Many thanks for the tip!

Sep 25, 2012 AshleyB 10 posts	Topic: General Discussion / Result. Thanks Vic, On the course it was proven that my lanctus wasn't lasting the full day with me, maybe because of my fast metabolic rate of burning energy. Any how once ive moved over to levimur i will upload some diary entries so you guys can have a look. Hopefully i will have pages of Greens readings, I do tend to eat a lot and not inject when snacking and add the CP's to the next meal. Maybe I should start actually using the priciples of injecting followed by eating.

Sep 25, 2012 AshleyB 10 posts	Topic: General Discussion / Result. I miss read JWo, I know you didn't think i'm a woman, I've got my morning eye in.

Sep 25, 2012 AshleyB 10 posts	Topic: General Discussion / Result. Just to let you know, I am a man. Don't want any confussion. I didn't take offence JWo. LOL x Its really P ing me off at the min as i'm always high and making corrections. I can't wait to get on the levimur to get a steady BI. Over the last 14 days ive averaged 13mmol/L Vic what BI do you take, mines Lanctus at the minute. AshleyB a Bloke lol..

Sep 25, 2012 jonmac 6 posts	Topic: General Discussion / Education Thanks for the info on the Bournemouth online course. I'll check it out today. I'm hoping for a cure before I'm 70 so I can live out the rest of my life without hassle.

Sep 24, 2012 JayBee 587 posts	Topic: General Discussion / Result. AshleyB said: Hello, Ive just been looking into your readings. Please don't take it as gospel but this is what my wife and I think. No probs! Firstly you mentioned your not feeling 100% so straight away that makes me think you may need to change your base line insulin. Maybe. Also you are eating again after your second base line at dinner coz your going low in the evening\night. I eat again after dinner usually because it's desert! ;P I know it's a bad practice to split my meal but at least I'm not snacking to get through the night. Also, that 3.9BG during the night may have been caused by the before bed correction so I'm not going to say BI just yet. That time was pretty strange.. 1QA would drop me by 8BG... I was taking 17 BI in the evening then though. Maybe you should lower your evening BI by 2 or 4 units 20%. I do already have some concerns with the evening BI so this is why I'm doing the 3am tonight. In all honesty, it's work in progress. I'm not 100% on the evening BI being right. I did have it at 15BI briefly before this, but when I hit some highs after dinner before bed (I will add the day on this post - period 14Sept to 18Sept - to help) on that occasion, it was decided that I'd change back to 16 and try adjusting the meal ratio instead first. Hasn't done too bad so far, so I'm back to checking the overnight testing... I've given it at least 4 days too to work out if 1:1 works (which it seems to rather well). Your morning BI could be too low or your morning ratio for breakfast QA is wrong. I often hypo without fail for 1:1 meal ratios based on past trials so I'm gonna take this as yes, try 13BI tomorrow and see how it goes... however, I may change my mind if I hypo at 3am... decisions, decisions! I feel so spoilt for choice on what to fix first! XD Hypos any time sure are a pain in the bum! I appreciate some of the advice - most of it was not needed. Thanks though. I hope you don't have as much trouble as vic and I have had over the 3 years since doing DAFNE. AshleyB said: If you increase morning BI do it by 2 or 3 not 1 I am insulin sensitive so often 2 can be too much. This is something you may come across if you're an active person... DAFNE is not set in stone - it is just a guide; you will need to learn your needs by adjusting the guide.

Sep 24, 2012 AshleyB 10 posts	Topic: General Discussion / Result. If you increase morning BI do it by 2 or 3 not 1 Thanks AshleyB

Sep 24, 2012 AshleyB 10 posts	Topic: General Discussion / Result. Hello, Ive just been looking into your readings. Please don't take it as gospel but this is what my wife and I think. Firstly you mentioned your not feeling 100% so straight away that makes me think you may need to change your base line insulin. Also you are eating again after your second base line at dinner coz your going low in the evening\night. Maybe you should lower your evening BI by 2 or 4 units 20%. Your morning BI could be too low or your morning ratio for breakfast QA is wrong. I was advised not to change to many things at once. Test you morning BI and evening BI First. Try carb free dinner etc Try a carb free breakfast and lunch to get your morning BI right. Please don't correct After night hypo's, DAFNE's golden rule " hypo in the night ajust evening BI by 2-4 unit 20%". Maybe you need to inject your QA in your stomach more so you get the insulin quicker. This is what think, I hope some of this information is helpful, please take a look at the online handbook to look at sick day rules. Maybe useful. Thanks AshleyB

Sep 24, 2012 JayBee 587 posts	Topic: General Discussion / Result. Let's throw this out there. I'm considering 13BI in the morning with these numbers... should I, in your opinions? I'm torn, and starting to struggle with my patience a bit. ;P Also planning to attempt a 3am check again tonight. Oh what fun.

Sep 24, 2012 NikkiAllen 3 posts	Topic: General Discussion / Bayer Contour USB meters It due to the regulations regarding how accurate test strips need to be. The Next strips are more accurate and will meet the new regulations.

Sep 24, 2012 novorapidboi26 1,819 posts	Topic: General Discussion / Bayer Contour USB meters could be for any number of reasons, but most likely money will be involved somewhere, either to make it, or save it........ its likely the price of these strips aren't much different from each other so the GP should be cool........

Sep 24, 2012 novorapidboi26 1,819 posts	Topic: General Discussion / Education http://www.bdec-e-learning.com/ that's the Bournemouth online course that I have heard is really good. Obviously you should push for DAFNE, even if your closest clinic does not do it, you can try others...... aged 60 and becoming type 1, wow........its seems that cases like yours are becoming much more common.....

Sep 23, 2012 Deadly 8 posts	Topic: General Discussion / Bayer Contour USB meters I have been using the Bayer Contour USB metre for some time now and I am very happy with it. They have now released the Contour Next Metre which includeds a number of new features. But to be able to use it you must have a different type of test strip called Contour Next. Does anyone know why they have done this, and why they couldn't just enhance the meter and keep the same test strips. It's just a nuisance when you have to ask your GP to change the test strip you use. Thanks David

Sep 23, 2012 AshleyB 10 posts	Topic: General Discussion / Result. Thanks Vic, let me know how you get on. I'm still getting high towards night. Waiting to get moved over to levimir. I think Dafne should be available to all type 1's without a stupid waiting list. I can't grumble as I only waited a year. There were people on my course who have been waiting 9 years.

Sep 22, 2012 AshleyB 10 posts	Topic: General Discussion / Result. You could have a dawn phenominum where your liver kicks out glucose at 3am. Try a carb free dinner and do a 3am blood check. You may benift from changing to levimir rather than the Lantus as that may be only lasting about 18-20hrs hence the increase before bed thats if your taking the correct QA with dinner. Just had the dafne couse this week, its still fresh in the head. AshleyB

Sep 22, 2012 maria51 22 posts	Topic: Questions for HCPs / Has anyone else had this happen? marke said: Hi, Since this is most likely an allergic reaction it won't make any difference what part of your body you inject it in surely. You are not less allergic to it in your stomach than your thigh. Its not a major reaction since it sounds like its confined to the injection site, none the less its probably major to you ! NovaCare do have a helpline listed in Oz but the reality is they will be trained in Insulin not allergies. You need to see your diabetes team/doctor really and see what your options are. Suprisingly (or not) Levemir doesn't just contain Insulin but a number of other ingredients, they are listed here and chances are your body is reacting to one of these things. As others have said you can inject both QA and BI in most sites however the rate of absorbtion does vary so if you do try swapping you probably need to test a bit more to ensure what effect the change has had, remembering that changes may not be immediate but occur over a couple of days. Sorry I know I haven't helped much, you can try the number on the site I quoted, they should have someone available most of the time if the rules are the same as the UK and they may at least be able to offer some useful advice. Thank you too Marke, am less confused now and at least I have more info to think about before I see the DE and Endo on Tuesday. Cheers.

Sep 22, 2012 maria51 22 posts	Topic: Questions for HCPs / Has anyone else had this happen? Phil Maskell said: Hi, In all honesty with newer insulins unless you have absorption problems NovoRapid should be fine in thighs, just don't run or cycle after as this will speed up absorption due to muscle use. Everyones different though so you may have issues with it, but I never have. Have you tried Levemir in your stomach though? Does it swell up there? Phil Thanks Phil for your reply, I haven't done Levemir in stomach but tried it in my butt for the first time last night then checked this morning and had no swelling. Will use it there until I see my DE on Tuesday.

Sep 21, 2012 marke 681 posts	Topic: Questions for HCPs / Has anyone else had this happen? Hi, Since this is most likely an allergic reaction it won't make any difference what part of your body you inject it in surely. You are not less allergic to it in your stomach than your thigh. Its not a major reaction since it sounds like its confined to the injection site, none the less its probably major to you ! NovaCare do have a helpline listed in Oz but the reality is they will be trained in Insulin not allergies. You need to see your diabetes team/doctor really and see what your options are. Suprisingly (or not) Levemir doesn't just contain Insulin but a number of other ingredients, they are listed here and chances are your body is reacting to one of these things. As others have said you can inject both QA and BI in most sites however the rate of absorbtion does vary so if you do try swapping you probably need to test a bit more to ensure what effect the change has had, remembering that changes may not be immediate but occur over a couple of days. Sorry I know I haven't helped much, you can try the number on the site I quoted, they should have someone available most of the time if the rules are the same as the UK and they may at least be able to offer some useful advice.