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Oct 29, 2009
Sam
64 posts
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Topic: Site Development / Recipes Hi JohnA heinz tin of lentil soup has a few very small squares of potato I don't even know if there is 10g worth to count but I count 1cp plus the tomato puree a bit like following the rules of beans. I'm looking at a tin just now per 100g is 7.7g a full tin 400g so it works out as 3cp. I've found it doesn't put my BG up much and in the past I've taken my full amount of insulin ratio 2:1 so 6units. I've hypod 1hr later. So I just half it. Taking 1.5 units to cover the tin of soup. When I said never hypod I mean I've counted the right amount of carbs/ taken the right amount of insulin. I've never hypod when cooking homemade food because I've counted my carbs correctly and taken the right amount of insulin to match the carbs, so I'm counting right! I've not over estimated in my cps basically therefore no risk of hypo. Since following DAFNE rules my hypos have reduced dramatically and that has a lot to do with weighing my food and counting carbs properly, the system really does work. It's all second nature now! Thanks Sam x |
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Oct 29, 2009
john day
54 posts
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Topic: Site Development / Recipes Hello Sam ..From what you have said, you already work in the way that will suit the form fine ..it will just provide a standard layout for your calculations to keep. Like you mention, In my own use of the form I also tend to favour portion size at he unit rather than gr as its easier to relates to eg half of a Morrisons Steak Pie is 6.5 CP, half can rice pudding is 3.3 CP as well as dividing up Pat’s home cooked recipes into half or third portions. Just a detail query from your potato comment .. why half the CP for the potatoes in the soup .. just from experience? And if by ‘never hypoed’ you mean you have never had BG less than 3.5 then you could teach us all a lot, that’s for sure. Suspect you mean never been down in the 1.somethings? Anyway, to send you the Form I need to email it as an attachment which I am happy to do, just let me know your em address via the message system. Cheers, John |
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Oct 29, 2009
Sam
64 posts
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Topic: Site Development / Recipes Hi JohnI'm curious ..your form is there anyway I could get a copy? I in the past had difficulty in over estimating my CPs as every food tends to have carb nutrition info on the packaging. When attending the DAFNE course we were told to watch what we count for example a tin of lentil soup although a heinz tin from memory works out at about 3 cps I normally 1/2 it for all the potato that's in it plus lentils are in low GI. You end up taking too much insulin to cover and could hypo later on. I guess it's a case of what ingredients are in the foods etc and would you count it. My portions of home cooked meals can depend on how big or small my portion is. I make a chicken pie which has puff pastry which is high in carbs but I love it sooo much I get 4 portions out the whole pie. You could get so much more I guess what I'm trying to say is say one of my recipes is a total of 400g carbs i would say to folk divide by the number of portions you want out of it, everyones appetite is different. I would also list all ingredients and mark the carb amount per that item and it would be up to that person whether to count it or not. I kile to work out the carb amount for each food item, total it and then divide by the number of portions I get out of it. I take my insulin accordingly. I've never hypod after which is a good sign. I guess it's just trial and error. Let me know about your form. Sam x |
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Oct 29, 2009
LizB
22 posts
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Topic: General Discussion / I would appreciate anybody's help! Hi - just one note of caution.Please don't be too heavy handed with your friend. We all need to be in control of our own destiny and things like diabetes can leave you feeling like you no longer have control over that. Other people doing things behind her back is not necessarily going to help her feel in control again. All your friend needs to know is what resources are available to assist her and that people are routing for her and then she will, in her own time, make the choices that work for her and allow her to regain control of her situation in life. If you are frustrated with the time it takes her to come to terms with her condition, imagine how much more frustrating it is to realise that you're in a situation that will never end and that you are going to have to find the best way you can to manage it for the rest of your life. Take a look around this site and you will see that people who have long ago (decades) come to terms with their condition are still working out what is the best way to manage it now. It can be a constantly changing situation, so please be patient with your friend and allow her to reach her long term conclusions and choices in her own time frame. Best of luck to both of you. Liz |
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Oct 29, 2009
LizB
22 posts
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Topic: General Discussion / Forever chasing my tail - Any suggestions please KarenI've just e-mailed my DSN after doing 2 days of no carb breakfasts and being very good about not changing anything except my a.m. BI. I will definitely let you know how I get on - only hope it's weeks rather than months. :-) Cheers. Liz |
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Oct 29, 2009
Lynne
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Andy - thanks, that's really inspiring!! I do think it's all about habit and that once I get started I'll find it becomes more like second nature..! |
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Oct 29, 2009
sanderaburns
5 posts
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Topic: General Discussion / Coeliac as well as Diabetic? I have Coeliac disease as well as being Type 1 Diabetic, am looking to talk to others who are the same, please get in touch.Sandra |
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Oct 29, 2009
Lynne
8 posts
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Topic: General Discussion / Help me - I'm rubbish!! Well I have my next appointment on 20th November (eek) and know I'll get a row too - but really hoping that filling it all in online will really inspire me to pay more attention to my diabetes!I got invited to my cousin's wedding in December and there was a bit on the reply card to state if you have any special dietary requirements - I didn't fill it in. I then had my auntie on the phone asking if I'd forgotten to fill it in etc..! I wish people would realise that in fact we can eat what we like!! I know what you mean about drawing attention to your diabetes - I hate testing or injecting in front of people I don't know. So sometimes it doesn't get done to be honest! |
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Oct 29, 2009
Andy M
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Topic: General Discussion / Help me - I'm rubbish!! Hi Lynne,I did the course approx 6-8 months ago after struggling with poor control and poor health for a number of years. My weight spirallled out of control and I crept up to 18st 9lbs. My health was starting to affect my life style. DAFNE taught me a lot; especially about food generally. It really is worth the effort. As for me??? Welll My weight has dropped to 14 stone, my GP has taken me off ALL my blood pressure tablets (Lisinopril and Slozem), I have had zero Hypos, I am generally quite fit & healthy , I take much less insulin now (sometimes even skipping my long acting dose depending upon my carb intake) and I eat like a horse. As for keeping records etc I suppose everyone finds their own way. I kept good records and counted accurately for a while; now it is just second nature, I sort of keep it in my head now....I find I do not need to keep accurate records..I just sort of got "into th groove" if that makes sense. It is well worth perservering ...a couple of good books/reading some on line forums helps. Keep in touch .. good luck Andy |
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Oct 29, 2009
sanderaburns
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Topic: General Discussion / Help me - I'm rubbish!! Hi Lynne, i did DAFNE training at St John's in March, like you i think it's brilliant, but filling in my diary is just a pain in the ***!I got into trouble at my clinic appt in sept for not filling it in, my hb1 count had went up as well, so as my 'punishment' i had to fill my diary in for a few weeks and send it to Liz, i haven't filled it in for a couple of weeks, and find it so hard to start again. I find that it's easy for people to tell you to do it, but they are not the ones doing it, i don't want everyone knowing i am diabetic as it is, and this just draws attention to the fact. I get a half hour break, so i have to test my BG, work out my CP's eat and fill in my diary, i am also coeliac so have to make sure i don't eat anything with gluten in it. I feel food is becoming a BIG issue with me! Do you find that non diabetics 'tell' you what you can't eat? i get it all the time so that's why i hate telling people i am diabetic. I know it's helping me but it's really hard, so you are not alone! Sandra |
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Oct 29, 2009
Lynne
8 posts
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Topic: DAFNE Online Mobile / Mobile site released OMG, I really think this could make all the difference to me!! I never carry my diary and have generally been rubbish for months now - I'm really inspired now to 'start again'!! |
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Oct 29, 2009
Lynne
8 posts
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Meant to say that I'm really hoping that the online blood glucose diary will help me!! |
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Oct 29, 2009
Lynne
8 posts
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Topic: General Discussion / Help me - I'm rubbish!! Hi all - just joined today so please be kind!I did the DAFNE training in May and I thought it was brilliant - really easy and more importantly it actually works! But I have a severe case of the 'can't be bothereds'!! I know what to do, I'm just not doing it. I need a major kick! Is there hope for me?? |
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Oct 29, 2009
Tracey Bond
14 posts
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Topic: Questions for HCPs / Rising morning BG knowing the 'Dawn' Phenomenon is not present Hi EveryoneI have recently been doing throught the night and early morning BG tests and have discovered that a rising morning blood sugar after morning Lantus at 7.30 am and before breakfast at 10.00am ish not due to our friend 'Dawn'. Can anyone explain what else it might be, if all other areas seem ok, ie. ratios, morning Lantus checked with CHO free lunch etc. Thanks in advance. Tracey x |
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Oct 28, 2009
john day
54 posts
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Topic: Site Development / Recipes Sounds a great idea to encourage the trying out of new meals, with the added attraction that Meal CP is already calculated for a sized portion.As far as the CP calculation itself for a ‘home cooked’ meal, the Meal CP Estimator form (which some of you already have had from me) seems to work well when my partner Pat makes a ‘from basics’ meal with lots of ingredients. The form helps ensure all ingredients are correctly taken account of and prevents CP calculations from being pencilled on Pat’s recipe books… not a good idea I am informed! If the recipes were perhaps structured in a similar manner, showing ingredient CPs, cooks using could adjust the mixture to their own preference and easily see the impact on the overall CP. Could well, however, be best to start simple, as Sam suggests, and see how much enthusiasm there is out there and enhance if required. Bearing in mind the old 80/20% rule, to make it fly perhaps the submission of a new recipe should be a condition of membership of Dafne Online. But Beans on Toast should probably not count even for us mere males. Food for thought! Cheers, John |
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Oct 28, 2009
Nick Sproston
5 posts
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Topic: General Discussion / I would appreciate anybody's help! HiYea i agree with mark You should let her diabetic support team now she could attend at short notice if this is the case. I did just that and got a call the following week as somebody had to drop out. good luck |
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Oct 28, 2009
Nick Sproston
5 posts
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Topic: Site Development / Recipes HiThis sounds like an excellent idea. I will have to keep my eye on this thread to see how it progreses |
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Oct 28, 2009
Sam
64 posts
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Topic: Site Development / Recipes Cool! I don't think it needs to be anything too fancy. Have a Sticky saying Recipes and a dialogue box similar to this where we can for exampleChicken Pie Ingredients: write your ingredients here Nutrition Information: write your CP values here Directions: write how to make .....here as basic as mentioned above. If anyone else has suggestions as to layout etc feel free. Looking forward to trying out some different food, mind and add the puddings!!! Sam x |
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Oct 28, 2009
marke
643 posts
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Topic: General Discussion / I would appreciate anybody's help! hi, you don't say what area you are in but I guess the circumstances are largely the same in most areas. I would suggest you or her speak to her Diabetes support team and make sure they let the DAFNE Educators in your area know that she is available to attend at short notice, if she can. People often 'drop out' of a course before it starts and places have to be filled by whoever is available. This is how I got on the DAFNE Course.I would also suggest you check out Diabetes UK, they run single day courses for Diabetics that provide Diabetes education and this may help in the same way as DAFNE, in that you get to spend a day with people who understand exactly what you are going through because they are going through the same thing as well. Its not as good as DAFNE however they are easier to attend than the DAFNE Course. I know it doesn't help but she is not the only one to behave like this, I have met many many people with a similiar story. The key is being prepared to change and take the condition seriously. Its never too late to do this and there are plenty of other diabetics who are willing to support and help your friend, both on this site and at Diabetes UK. |
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Oct 28, 2009
marke
643 posts
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Topic: General Discussion / Dawn Phenomenon Hi Sam, Well to be honest All I have done so far is reduce my BI by 1 unit. I will leave this a while and then think about what to do next. The secret to it all is take your time and don't expect instant results. A few high readings for a while is not going to do any long term damage. Its better to take it slowly and get it right.I would also wait and see what your consultant says, hopefully they are DAFNE aware and understand how you are managing your Diabetes. The thing about the 'dawn phenomenon' is like all other aspects of Diabetes it will vary from person to person. I also note you are taking metformin which suggests you have a degree on insulin resistance. Unfortunately this I would guess could be causing issues. I am NOT a HCP, however having been on steriods this year and seeing the bizzare effects that they had on my BG's I know that insulin resistance is not a straight forward 'even' factor in BG's. Thats why its probably better to get the advice of experts, although it does no harm to ask for advice here. You will get support if nothing else on here. |
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Oct 28, 2009
marke
643 posts
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Topic: Site Development / Recipes hi, yes its possible, we just need to think about how to implement it. Perhaps people could discuss it a bit more in this forum thread and firm up a bit more on what is required. If we have a good idea on what is required we will be more than happy to implement it. The site is here to meet users needs, so if people want recipies we will give it a go. On one condition, no one asksus to cook them ourselves ;^) |