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Dec 3, 2009

Andy Chance 3 posts

Topic: DAFNE Online Mobile / Rationale - Please read

I have a Blackberry Bold 9000. It seems to work well, quite easy to use and read the display. It is easy to add diary entries. I will try the other functions.

Dec 2, 2009

Simon 578 posts

Topic: Site Development / Date Helper problem

Hi Alan,

Sorry about that - all fixed now.

Thanks,

Simon

Dec 2, 2009

marke 686 posts

Topic: DAFNE Graduate Group (DGG) / Join Now !!

sorry !! my screw-up. The link works now. Thanks for pointing it out !

Dec 2, 2009

Europhile 2 posts

Topic: DAFNE Graduate Group (DGG) / Join Now !!

Hi, the link to the word form doesn't work. Could it be fixed or a new file uploaded. I'm keen to join the forum. Found out only yesterday about this website, 3 years after my course. I think its a brilliant initiative by the way.

Dec 1, 2009

Alan 49 284 posts

Topic: Site Development / Date Helper problem

When doing the 'multiple entries' option in the BG diary, the 'date helper' option for today gives 11209, which is then flagged as 'field length' problem.

Dec 1, 2009

hilda 8 posts

Topic: General Discussion / Lantus Penfill cartridges?

Hi Gillian

yes Lantus comes in 3 ml penfill , you need to get Autopen 24 not autopen on its own, to use with Lantus

Nov 30, 2009

john day 54 posts

Topic: Questions for HCPs / BG Diary at Clinic

Simon..

With regard to Min/Max â€“ memo to me .. look at the options available more closely!

Re ratios, I suspect my request was a bit jumbled. I was not asking for Avg ratios at all, but merely the given end-of week ratio result(s) .

If a ratio is not available for the last day reported, then use the last value that is given. ..in fact that sounds the better rule anyway, automatically covering for omissions and reflecting possible user behaviour .. â€˜unless entered, itâ€™s the sameâ€™.

â€˜Most commonly used ratioâ€™ could be confusing, not reporting the latest state of play... so suggest steer clear of that.

Cheers, John

Nov 29, 2009

Simon 578 posts

Topic: Questions for HCPs / BG Diary at Clinic

Thanks for your comments Karen and John. I'll feed your requirements into the next version of the summary.

John - one thing, you can specify your own 'low' and 'high' threshold values via the text boxes at the top of the summary - is this what you mean?

Also - with regard to the ratios, would it be OK to report on the most commonly used ratio for each time of day, rather than a calculated average? This would be easier to add I think.

Cheers,

Simon

Nov 29, 2009

Karen Westwood 38 posts

Topic: General Discussion / Sick day rules

Hi Clare,

As far as I am aware you just take your usual QA:CP ratiio if you are still eating plus your usual BI.
Good luck and hope you are feeling better soon.

Karen x

Nov 29, 2009

cmturnbull 6 posts

Topic: General Discussion / Sick day rules

I know this sounds like a silly question. Am using sick day rules for the first time Sad

Have just (1830) injected 10% TDD cos BG at 14 and ketone+, will probably repeat at 2030.
However I will be eating in the meantime. Do corrective doses still apply or do I just use my normal ratio (1:1). Can't find anything about it in the manual.
Thanks all
Clare xx

Nov 29, 2009

john day 54 posts

Topic: General Discussion / recording, meters, software & DAFNE

Hello Alan...

Thanks for that info. Had a quick peek at sidiary, and to say comprehensive would be an understatement. Immediately had a vision of my hcp's face if I suggested use of this software... although sidiary's emoticons might just help!

Seriously however, a closer look would surely give quite a few clues which could be used in moving DO BG Diary forward. So could be good if a few other of us dl the sidiary 30day free offer and reviewed. Just need to find the time!

Cheers, John

Nov 29, 2009

john day 54 posts

Topic: Questions for HCPs / BG Diary at Clinic

Hi Simonâ€¦

Excellent for the first pass from a sketchy specification! Drill down good and a natural requirement when looking at â€˜oddâ€™ results .. some of us have lots of those!

Maybe would be good to have a user definable Hi setting in due course from user point of view, but hcps may prefer to use the dafne bkf 7.5, lun 7.5, bed 8.0 for their report, if eventually slightly different.

Main comment is that the same data would be more usefully displayed with a compact single line per week The abbreviated column headings would need to be explained first.

Week QA BI Bkf Lun Din Bed Lo Hi EC
19/10/09 22 33 9.6 10.6 5.5 12.8 3 17 34
26/10 09 31 33 8.3 9.6 8.5 10.1 1 10 31
etc,
and at the bottom
average 28 33 10.5 10.2 8.3 7.9 2.2 13 33

This format makes much easier to see trends by reading down a column and then focus on one aspect, eg Bkf BGs for improvement.

The + - QA correction info would be very useful, to indicate when BI perhaps needs to be changed, especially bearing in mind the info is intended not just for us on a day to day basis, but for periodic hcp review.

As the Correction value is usually small, perhaps include the Total QA â€˜+â€™ Corrections as a guide to the â€˜+â€™ correction activity relative to the avg QA taken. Drill down could then used to investigate if too high. Or maybe QC as a % of QA taken would be better,

Week QA QC BI Bkf ............
19/10/09 22 8 33 9.6 â€¦.........

I would tend to handle the â€˜-â€˜ separately, as a wide lifestyle range of reasons. Not sure if much can be done from analysis.

As posted before, Avg Bkf ratio, Avg Lun ratio, Avg Din ratio indicators are needed but change relatively slowly and infrequently. So perhaps a separate listing, better showing the Actual ratios (not Avg) in force at the end of first week displayed and at the end of any week in which there has been a change to any ratio. This would be sufficient indication/reminder of the dosage strategy being followed. Eg

Week Bkf Lun Din
19/10/09 1.0 1.0 1.2
02/11/09 1.0 0.6 1.2
09/11/09 1.0 0.8 1.2

I only usually enter 3 or 4 short Comments per week, usually explanatory for specific odd result or strategic decision to change BI. If other users have a similar qty then, if space problem on the main listing, comments could be relegated to a separate weekly listing to refer to if oddity in the main or Ratio listing prompts this. Or possibly combine with the Ratios listing above; although that would probably mean all weeks would be listed.

Week Bkf Lun Din Date-Comment1 Date-Comment3 Date-Comment3
19/10/09 1.0 1.0 1.2 21- battery flat 22-instn pm 23-running

I f space generally is a problem, Entry Count is less important, I would say.

Once again , a great start.. and hope these comment help . Cheers, John

Nov 29, 2009

Alann 12 posts

Topic: General Discussion / recording, meters, software & DAFNE

Hi guys,

I use sinovo's sidiary (http://www.sidiary.org/) it covers all the needs of DAFNE and more, will run on a number of platforms including Iphone and best of all they do a freeware version (ok with advertising). I would recommend it without a second thought.

Alan

Nov 28, 2009

copperline 2 posts

Topic: General Discussion / Least painful lancet??

Thank you very much for all the replys which I am looking into and hope to find something better for me. I never knew you could use your upper arm for BG testing either. I hope the DAFNE website keeps going. Thanks

Nov 28, 2009

Karen Westwood 38 posts

Topic: Questions for HCPs / BG Diary at Clinic

Hi Simon,

Just finished inputting my BG onto my diary and think that the summary view is absolutely brilliant!!!

It is great to be able to see the average BG for different times of the day in number format. Personally I don't think the fact that the average insulin doses don't take into account corrections is a problem. Its just great to see everything summarised so easily. I though the graphs were good but I think this is even easier to read.

Great work again guys.

Big thanks.

Karen x

Nov 28, 2009

Simon 578 posts

Topic: Questions for HCPs / BG Diary at Clinic

Hi Everyone,

We've just updated the site with a summary view for the diary - see the link at the top of your Blood Glucose diary view (near links to help and add multiple).

It's a first pass, so the current information displays:

BG Averages at different times of day
Average insulin dosage per day
How many times your BG has been above/below target thresholds.
How many entries make up the current summary

Currently still to do:

Summarizing comments, and ratios - these are a little trickier, as the ratios will require some calculation, and the comments may take up a lot of space, we need to work on the best way to display them.

Also, the insulin dosage averages do not take into account any corrections - only numbers before any '+' or '-' characters. I wasn't sure whether people wanted to take corrections in to account or not, your feedback would be appreciated on this.

Finally I thought it would be nice if you could view the detailed diary view for a summary by clicking on the summary's date - so you can!

As always, let us know what you think.

Thanks,

Simon


Dec 3, 2009 Andy Chance 3 posts	Topic: DAFNE Online Mobile / Rationale - Please read I have a Blackberry Bold 9000. It seems to work well, quite easy to use and read the display. It is easy to add diary entries. I will try the other functions.

Dec 2, 2009 Simon 578 posts	Topic: Site Development / Date Helper problem Hi Alan, Sorry about that - all fixed now. Thanks, Simon

Dec 2, 2009 marke 686 posts	Topic: DAFNE Graduate Group (DGG) / Join Now !! sorry !! my screw-up. The link works now. Thanks for pointing it out !

Dec 2, 2009 Europhile 2 posts	Topic: DAFNE Graduate Group (DGG) / Join Now !! Hi, the link to the word form doesn't work. Could it be fixed or a new file uploaded. I'm keen to join the forum. Found out only yesterday about this website, 3 years after my course. I think its a brilliant initiative by the way.

Dec 1, 2009 Alan 49 284 posts	Topic: Site Development / Date Helper problem When doing the 'multiple entries' option in the BG diary, the 'date helper' option for today gives 11209, which is then flagged as 'field length' problem.

Dec 1, 2009 hilda 8 posts	Topic: General Discussion / Lantus Penfill cartridges? Hi Gillian yes Lantus comes in 3 ml penfill , you need to get Autopen 24 not autopen on its own, to use with Lantus

Nov 30, 2009 john day 54 posts	Topic: Questions for HCPs / BG Diary at Clinic Simon.. With regard to Min/Max â€“ memo to me .. look at the options available more closely! Re ratios, I suspect my request was a bit jumbled. I was not asking for Avg ratios at all, but merely the given end-of week ratio result(s) . If a ratio is not available for the last day reported, then use the last value that is given. ..in fact that sounds the better rule anyway, automatically covering for omissions and reflecting possible user behaviour .. â€˜unless entered, itâ€™s the sameâ€™. â€˜Most commonly used ratioâ€™ could be confusing, not reporting the latest state of play... so suggest steer clear of that. Cheers, John

Nov 29, 2009 Simon 578 posts	Topic: Questions for HCPs / BG Diary at Clinic Thanks for your comments Karen and John. I'll feed your requirements into the next version of the summary. John - one thing, you can specify your own 'low' and 'high' threshold values via the text boxes at the top of the summary - is this what you mean? Also - with regard to the ratios, would it be OK to report on the most commonly used ratio for each time of day, rather than a calculated average? This would be easier to add I think. Cheers, Simon

Nov 29, 2009 Karen Westwood 38 posts	Topic: General Discussion / Sick day rules Hi Clare, As far as I am aware you just take your usual QA:CP ratiio if you are still eating plus your usual BI. Good luck and hope you are feeling better soon. Karen x

Nov 29, 2009 cmturnbull 6 posts	Topic: General Discussion / Sick day rules I know this sounds like a silly question. Am using sick day rules for the first time Have just (1830) injected 10% TDD cos BG at 14 and ketone+, will probably repeat at 2030. However I will be eating in the meantime. Do corrective doses still apply or do I just use my normal ratio (1:1). Can't find anything about it in the manual. Thanks all Clare xx

Nov 29, 2009 john day 54 posts	Topic: General Discussion / recording, meters, software & DAFNE Hello Alan... Thanks for that info. Had a quick peek at sidiary, and to say comprehensive would be an understatement. Immediately had a vision of my hcp's face if I suggested use of this software... although sidiary's emoticons might just help! Seriously however, a closer look would surely give quite a few clues which could be used in moving DO BG Diary forward. So could be good if a few other of us dl the sidiary 30day free offer and reviewed. Just need to find the time! Cheers, John

Nov 29, 2009 john day 54 posts	Topic: Questions for HCPs / BG Diary at Clinic Hi Simonâ€¦ Excellent for the first pass from a sketchy specification! Drill down good and a natural requirement when looking at â€˜oddâ€™ results .. some of us have lots of those! Maybe would be good to have a user definable Hi setting in due course from user point of view, but hcps may prefer to use the dafne bkf 7.5, lun 7.5, bed 8.0 for their report, if eventually slightly different. Main comment is that the same data would be more usefully displayed with a compact single line per week The abbreviated column headings would need to be explained first. Week QA BI Bkf Lun Din Bed Lo Hi EC 19/10/09 22 33 9.6 10.6 5.5 12.8 3 17 34 26/10 09 31 33 8.3 9.6 8.5 10.1 1 10 31 etc, and at the bottom average 28 33 10.5 10.2 8.3 7.9 2.2 13 33 This format makes much easier to see trends by reading down a column and then focus on one aspect, eg Bkf BGs for improvement. The + - QA correction info would be very useful, to indicate when BI perhaps needs to be changed, especially bearing in mind the info is intended not just for us on a day to day basis, but for periodic hcp review. As the Correction value is usually small, perhaps include the Total QA â€˜+â€™ Corrections as a guide to the â€˜+â€™ correction activity relative to the avg QA taken. Drill down could then used to investigate if too high. Or maybe QC as a % of QA taken would be better, Week QA QC BI Bkf ............ 19/10/09 22 8 33 9.6 â€¦......... I would tend to handle the â€˜-â€˜ separately, as a wide lifestyle range of reasons. Not sure if much can be done from analysis. As posted before, Avg Bkf ratio, Avg Lun ratio, Avg Din ratio indicators are needed but change relatively slowly and infrequently. So perhaps a separate listing, better showing the Actual ratios (not Avg) in force at the end of first week displayed and at the end of any week in which there has been a change to any ratio. This would be sufficient indication/reminder of the dosage strategy being followed. Eg Week Bkf Lun Din 19/10/09 1.0 1.0 1.2 02/11/09 1.0 0.6 1.2 09/11/09 1.0 0.8 1.2 I only usually enter 3 or 4 short Comments per week, usually explanatory for specific odd result or strategic decision to change BI. If other users have a similar qty then, if space problem on the main listing, comments could be relegated to a separate weekly listing to refer to if oddity in the main or Ratio listing prompts this. Or possibly combine with the Ratios listing above; although that would probably mean all weeks would be listed. Week Bkf Lun Din Date-Comment1 Date-Comment3 Date-Comment3 19/10/09 1.0 1.0 1.2 21- battery flat 22-instn pm 23-running I f space generally is a problem, Entry Count is less important, I would say. Once again , a great start.. and hope these comment help . Cheers, John

Nov 29, 2009 Alann 12 posts	Topic: General Discussion / recording, meters, software & DAFNE Hi guys, I use sinovo's sidiary (http://www.sidiary.org/) it covers all the needs of DAFNE and more, will run on a number of platforms including Iphone and best of all they do a freeware version (ok with advertising). I would recommend it without a second thought. Alan

Nov 28, 2009 copperline 2 posts	Topic: General Discussion / Least painful lancet?? Thank you very much for all the replys which I am looking into and hope to find something better for me. I never knew you could use your upper arm for BG testing either. I hope the DAFNE website keeps going. Thanks

Nov 28, 2009 Karen Westwood 38 posts	Topic: Questions for HCPs / BG Diary at Clinic Hi Simon, Just finished inputting my BG onto my diary and think that the summary view is absolutely brilliant!!! It is great to be able to see the average BG for different times of the day in number format. Personally I don't think the fact that the average insulin doses don't take into account corrections is a problem. Its just great to see everything summarised so easily. I though the graphs were good but I think this is even easier to read. Great work again guys. Big thanks. Karen x

Nov 28, 2009 Simon 578 posts	Topic: Questions for HCPs / BG Diary at Clinic Hi Everyone, We've just updated the site with a summary view for the diary - see the link at the top of your Blood Glucose diary view (near links to help and add multiple). It's a first pass, so the current information displays: BG Averages at different times of day Average insulin dosage per day How many times your BG has been above/below target thresholds. How many entries make up the current summary Currently still to do: Summarizing comments, and ratios - these are a little trickier, as the ratios will require some calculation, and the comments may take up a lot of space, we need to work on the best way to display them. Also, the insulin dosage averages do not take into account any corrections - only numbers before any '+' or '-' characters. I wasn't sure whether people wanted to take corrections in to account or not, your feedback would be appreciated on this. Finally I thought it would be nice if you could view the detailed diary view for a summary by clicking on the summary's date - so you can! As always, let us know what you think. Thanks, Simon