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Nov 17, 2012

Alan 49 284 posts

Topic: General Discussion / Petition for government funding

Why not do both?

Nov 17, 2012

vic demain 87 posts

Topic: General Discussion / Petition for government funding

Alternatively all people passionate about this idea could make an appointement to go visit their MP in one of their local clinics and raise their awareness and ask them to raise the matter in the HOC and to lobby their constituency Health Authority for support.

Nov 16, 2012

Johnnyw 3 posts

Topic: General Discussion / Whiskysmum - Dafne Diary - all comments welcomed (4)

Hi agree with victorri about BG possibly being too high, but also looks like your evening meal ratio my be a bit high, as your fast acting may well be working for 5 hours and you seem to be eating 8ish and testing 3 to 3.5 hours later at 11ish then going low later on. Love to know how you manage to drop to 2.2 and get away without getting hyper later in the day (you must be doing something right).
If it were me I think I would try 1:1 (1:10 carbs) first, see the effect and then adjust the lantus.

Good luck in what ever you do

Nov 16, 2012

DianeW 115 posts

Topic: Questions for HCPs / corrections after a hypo

If i knew i had had a hypo in the night and i woke up at 22, i would correct, i would not want to run that high, let alone how rotten i would feel. But it begs the question: at what level do you feel comfortable to run at if you go by DAFNE post hypo no correct rule at breakfast, also bearing in mind your BG risrs on waking anyway due to adrenaline.

Nov 16, 2012

Peter 109 posts

Topic: Questions for HCPs / corrections after a hypo

Gemsa, The idea of rebound hyperglycemia (i.e. the 22.1 in the morning being caused by an untreated hypo overnight) has been discredited recently. There is some information here (http://www.dafneonline.co.uk/forums/1/topics/963) and there was a further presentation specifically on this at this topic at the DAFNE Collaborative in June this year. I would suggest that the 22 was in reaction to the food eaten late the night before. I know for me that measuring BG at 22:37 only 20 minutes after eating (and hopefully taking the correct insulin dose) would tell me little about the BG level that I would see 2 or 3 hours later. In my case I was diagnosed 40+ years ago, and now have insulin resistance, and so it takes time for any insulin dosage to start working on food. You probably don't have the same degree of resilience, but I would still suggest that you look more at the carb. counting the night before rather than a "phantom" hypo overnight.

Nov 16, 2012

JayBee 587 posts

Topic: General Discussion / Petition for government funding

I saw this on twitter and signed it straight away... even got some non-diabetic pals to sign it too. I hope it's successful! ^_^

Nov 16, 2012

Peter 109 posts

Topic: General Discussion / Petition for government funding

Thanks to those who have completed the petition already. This is an initiative of the DUAG (the DAFNE User Action Group) which we're working on to try and promote the value of structured educations courses for both type 1 and type 2 diabetics. For most of us using this site this means DAFNE specifically which DUAG would like to see being readily available to everyone who wants it across the whole of the UK rather than the current "postcode lottery" where we have great centres and teams in some areas and nothing at all elsewhere.

As Alan says above the target is to get 100,000 signatures at which time the subject "should" be raised for debate in the House of Commons. So only roughly 99,400 signatures to go Smile

However, there are over 10,00 users of this site alone, so we "only" need for everyone to sign, and get 9 others to do so and we'll be there. So as well as signing yourself, please encourage your partners, friends, family etc. to do so. As a reminder the link is http://epetitions.direct.gov.uk/petitions/41345

Many thanks, and, if you have any comments on the text or the idea in general then please raise them here and we can discuss.

Nov 16, 2012

victorri 12 posts

Topic: General Discussion / Is there any way to sync my diary between app and this site??

I've just completed my course today. I'm tring to enter my info but I keeps coming up the my date and time lengths are invalid but I'm doing it as it says to do. Can any one help please?

Nov 16, 2012

victorri 12 posts

Topic: General Discussion / Petition for government funding

Signed my name too. I'm going to post it on my Facebook too.

Nov 16, 2012

victorri 12 posts

Topic: General Discussion / Whiskysmum - Dafne Diary - all comments welcomed (4)

Hi I've only just done dafne finished today. I think your back ground might be to high. You could do with checking your bg at 3.00 in the morning to see what's happening. You might consider dropping you bi by 20% to 29 units. I've only just completed as I said so might be wrong. Hope you get it sorted.

Nov 16, 2012

mum2westiesGill 502 posts

Topic: General Discussion / Whiskysmum - Dafne Diary - all comments welcomed (4)

As the title says all comments are welcomed! Smile

I count carbs & take humalog before bkfast, lunch & dinner.
Bfast & lunch ratios are 1:10 Dinner ratio is 1.5:10

I'm currently having 36u lantus at bedtime.

Nov 16, 2012

Derek Brown 32 posts

Topic: DAFNE Online Mobile / Android DAFNE app freezing

Just yesterday the DAFNE app has started freezing on me when I choose to upload my readings to the website. It hangs for a couple of minutes then says there has been an error and needs to close.

I've sent an error report when requested with all it's details which I hope helps. Oddly enough it will download readings from the website without problem.

My handset is a Samsung Galaxy S2.

Anyone else having this problem?

Regards,

Derek

Nov 16, 2012

novorapidboi26 1,819 posts

Topic: General Discussion / Petition for government funding

I got an email and signed my name......

Nov 16, 2012

novorapidboi26 1,819 posts

Topic: General Discussion / Is there any way to sync my diary between app and this site??

It should upload at regular intervals.....

there is a setting 'diary upload' in the app settings, this should be set to ON

Nov 16, 2012

Garry 328 posts

Topic: Questions for HCPs / corrections after a hypo

Think it more likely that you have an infection coming on. Blood sugars are normally at least one day ahead of your cold, or whatever it is, showing obvious symptoms.
See what happens over today and tommorrow and it may be that you need compensate, if it is infection related insulin resistance, by applying the sick day rules from your handbook.
Life is always sending us curve balls....don't worry you'll sort it soon enough.
Regards
Garry

Nov 16, 2012

emdj 6 posts

Topic: General Discussion / Is there any way to sync my diary between app and this site??

The title says it all really, I did my DAFNE course last week and started entering my results in the DAFNE app on my mobile. But looking at this site, I am not at all sure that I can "sync" this data to this online site - do I really have to re-enter everything? If so, it seems a little pointless!
Hope someone can help!

Nov 15, 2012

richard.arkle 16 posts

Topic: General Discussion / Injection sites

I have had a real enlightening appointment with Prof Pearson at ARI. For some 2 years control has been getting more erratic, highs, and I struggled with all sorts of reasons as to what may be causing this.

My HCP's went through the ususal stuff but I still thought I was doing the right things. The Prof had me strip off and pointed out the parts of my body that had been overused. That was 2 weeks ago and I have really changed my sites from the "easy" to the difficult (the ones I could easily reach 30 years ago) and what a difference it has made!! Av BS has dropped from 8.9 to 6.8 and insulin per day from 76 to 54 units. I keep going hypo and dropping the Lantus dose.

I use the "commets" on my smartphone DAFNE diary to keep track numbered 1 - 8. L Thigh, R Thigh, L Buttock, R Buttock, L Back, L Stomach, R Stomach, R Back.

Nov 15, 2012

richard.arkle 16 posts

Topic: General Discussion / Surgery and insulin doses

My experience from 5 ops is that the anethiest (?) had me on a glucose drip with insulin and looked after the lot ! Very Happy

Nov 15, 2012

Alan 49 284 posts

Topic: General Discussion / Petition for government funding

The DAFNE User Action Group has raised a petition for governnent-funded eduucation programmes (which obviously includes DAFNE). Is everyone aware of this?
The link to the e-peittion is: http://epetitions.direct.gov.uk/petitions/41345

Evidently they need 100,000 signatures.

Nov 15, 2012

novorapidboi26 1,819 posts

Topic: Questions for HCPs / snacking and corrections

You really need to get your BI dose correct first before attempting any advanced dose adjustment.....

I just made sure my BI was correct and that my carb count and ratios were right then tested every Half hour, it won't be exact but you can get it pretty close....I done that a few times to make sure

Novorapid is on average 4-5 hours long

Nov 15, 2012

novorapidboi26 1,819 posts

Topic: Carbohydrate Counting / Carb free

I know what you mean, you can make really big omelettes though.....;)

Nov 15, 2012

Gemsa 20 posts

Topic: Questions for HCPs / corrections after a hypo

Well I don't know whether I had a hypo or not. I certainly didn't take any CPs but I don't know what my liver kicked out!

Night before; went to bed at 7.8mmol, woke at 2am to do test and was 3.2mmol, had to correct with +2 rapid CP (+1 didn't have an affect within the 10mins wait which currently seems to be quite common for me) and then had 1.5 normal CP. Woke up for breakfast at 12.7 and obviously didn't correct because of previous hypo. Rest of the day wasn't too bad so glad I followed 'post hypo no correct' rule.

Last night; went to bed at 14.4, woke at 2am to do test and was 12.6 so no CPs needed. Woke up for breakfast at 22.1. Therefore I suspect I had a hypo at about 3am instead - can't see why else it'd rise?!

But my question was therefore normally I would correct for 22.1.... but if it was potentially after a hypo do I ignore the 'potential' and correct regardless, or do I play safe and assume it was a hypo therefore use the 'no correction' rule?

Nov 15, 2012

Gemsa 20 posts

Topic: Questions for HCPs / snacking and corrections

All makes sense both Marke and Novorapidboi. Sorry to sound a dunce though... how do I find out how long my insulin lasts on average? (particularly if my BI isn't right yet and therefore my QA:CP ratio may be wrong too) 15 minutely blood tests?!

Nov 15, 2012

Gemsa 20 posts

Topic: Carbohydrate Counting / Carb free

My partner doesn't eat eggs so unless I am baking in bulk we don't have them in the house as we (I!) don't get through a box before they go off. If I know in advance I'm going to do a proper carb free time then I can go out and buy them, but if I decide last minute (a far too frequent habbit) its harder. So no, having eggs isn't an issue, just needs planning!

The bigger issue with eggs though... having had years of 'you must have carbs' drilled in, although yours does sound lovely, my stomach just looks at an omelette without a slice of bread and says "and, where's the rest?". A low carb meal just feels like an anorexic meal to me... (at the moment...) hence request for inspiration!!

Nov 17, 2012 Alan 49 284 posts	Topic: General Discussion / Petition for government funding Why not do both?

Nov 17, 2012 vic demain 87 posts	Topic: General Discussion / Petition for government funding Alternatively all people passionate about this idea could make an appointement to go visit their MP in one of their local clinics and raise their awareness and ask them to raise the matter in the HOC and to lobby their constituency Health Authority for support.

Nov 16, 2012 Johnnyw 3 posts	Topic: General Discussion / Whiskysmum - Dafne Diary - all comments welcomed (4) Hi agree with victorri about BG possibly being too high, but also looks like your evening meal ratio my be a bit high, as your fast acting may well be working for 5 hours and you seem to be eating 8ish and testing 3 to 3.5 hours later at 11ish then going low later on. Love to know how you manage to drop to 2.2 and get away without getting hyper later in the day (you must be doing something right). If it were me I think I would try 1:1 (1:10 carbs) first, see the effect and then adjust the lantus. Good luck in what ever you do

Nov 16, 2012 DianeW 115 posts	Topic: Questions for HCPs / corrections after a hypo If i knew i had had a hypo in the night and i woke up at 22, i would correct, i would not want to run that high, let alone how rotten i would feel. But it begs the question: at what level do you feel comfortable to run at if you go by DAFNE post hypo no correct rule at breakfast, also bearing in mind your BG risrs on waking anyway due to adrenaline.

Nov 16, 2012 Peter 109 posts	Topic: Questions for HCPs / corrections after a hypo Gemsa, The idea of rebound hyperglycemia (i.e. the 22.1 in the morning being caused by an untreated hypo overnight) has been discredited recently. There is some information here (http://www.dafneonline.co.uk/forums/1/topics/963) and there was a further presentation specifically on this at this topic at the DAFNE Collaborative in June this year. I would suggest that the 22 was in reaction to the food eaten late the night before. I know for me that measuring BG at 22:37 only 20 minutes after eating (and hopefully taking the correct insulin dose) would tell me little about the BG level that I would see 2 or 3 hours later. In my case I was diagnosed 40+ years ago, and now have insulin resistance, and so it takes time for any insulin dosage to start working on food. You probably don't have the same degree of resilience, but I would still suggest that you look more at the carb. counting the night before rather than a "phantom" hypo overnight.

Nov 16, 2012 JayBee 587 posts	Topic: General Discussion / Petition for government funding I saw this on twitter and signed it straight away... even got some non-diabetic pals to sign it too. I hope it's successful! ^_^

Nov 16, 2012 Peter 109 posts	Topic: General Discussion / Petition for government funding Thanks to those who have completed the petition already. This is an initiative of the DUAG (the DAFNE User Action Group) which we're working on to try and promote the value of structured educations courses for both type 1 and type 2 diabetics. For most of us using this site this means DAFNE specifically which DUAG would like to see being readily available to everyone who wants it across the whole of the UK rather than the current "postcode lottery" where we have great centres and teams in some areas and nothing at all elsewhere. As Alan says above the target is to get 100,000 signatures at which time the subject "should" be raised for debate in the House of Commons. So only roughly 99,400 signatures to go However, there are over 10,00 users of this site alone, so we "only" need for everyone to sign, and get 9 others to do so and we'll be there. So as well as signing yourself, please encourage your partners, friends, family etc. to do so. As a reminder the link is http://epetitions.direct.gov.uk/petitions/41345 Many thanks, and, if you have any comments on the text or the idea in general then please raise them here and we can discuss.

Nov 16, 2012 victorri 12 posts	Topic: General Discussion / Is there any way to sync my diary between app and this site?? I've just completed my course today. I'm tring to enter my info but I keeps coming up the my date and time lengths are invalid but I'm doing it as it says to do. Can any one help please?

Nov 16, 2012 victorri 12 posts	Topic: General Discussion / Petition for government funding Signed my name too. I'm going to post it on my Facebook too.

Nov 16, 2012 victorri 12 posts	Topic: General Discussion / Whiskysmum - Dafne Diary - all comments welcomed (4) Hi I've only just done dafne finished today. I think your back ground might be to high. You could do with checking your bg at 3.00 in the morning to see what's happening. You might consider dropping you bi by 20% to 29 units. I've only just completed as I said so might be wrong. Hope you get it sorted.

Nov 16, 2012 mum2westiesGill 502 posts	Topic: General Discussion / Whiskysmum - Dafne Diary - all comments welcomed (4) As the title says all comments are welcomed! I count carbs & take humalog before bkfast, lunch & dinner. Bfast & lunch ratios are 1:10 Dinner ratio is 1.5:10 I'm currently having 36u lantus at bedtime.

Nov 16, 2012 Derek Brown 32 posts	Topic: DAFNE Online Mobile / Android DAFNE app freezing Just yesterday the DAFNE app has started freezing on me when I choose to upload my readings to the website. It hangs for a couple of minutes then says there has been an error and needs to close. I've sent an error report when requested with all it's details which I hope helps. Oddly enough it will download readings from the website without problem. My handset is a Samsung Galaxy S2. Anyone else having this problem? Regards, Derek

Nov 16, 2012 novorapidboi26 1,819 posts	Topic: General Discussion / Petition for government funding I got an email and signed my name......

Nov 16, 2012 novorapidboi26 1,819 posts	Topic: General Discussion / Is there any way to sync my diary between app and this site?? It should upload at regular intervals..... there is a setting 'diary upload' in the app settings, this should be set to ON

Nov 16, 2012 Garry 328 posts	Topic: Questions for HCPs / corrections after a hypo Think it more likely that you have an infection coming on. Blood sugars are normally at least one day ahead of your cold, or whatever it is, showing obvious symptoms. See what happens over today and tommorrow and it may be that you need compensate, if it is infection related insulin resistance, by applying the sick day rules from your handbook. Life is always sending us curve balls....don't worry you'll sort it soon enough. Regards Garry

Nov 16, 2012 emdj 6 posts	Topic: General Discussion / Is there any way to sync my diary between app and this site?? The title says it all really, I did my DAFNE course last week and started entering my results in the DAFNE app on my mobile. But looking at this site, I am not at all sure that I can "sync" this data to this online site - do I really have to re-enter everything? If so, it seems a little pointless! Hope someone can help!

Nov 15, 2012 richard.arkle 16 posts	Topic: General Discussion / Injection sites I have had a real enlightening appointment with Prof Pearson at ARI. For some 2 years control has been getting more erratic, highs, and I struggled with all sorts of reasons as to what may be causing this. My HCP's went through the ususal stuff but I still thought I was doing the right things. The Prof had me strip off and pointed out the parts of my body that had been overused. That was 2 weeks ago and I have really changed my sites from the "easy" to the difficult (the ones I could easily reach 30 years ago) and what a difference it has made!! Av BS has dropped from 8.9 to 6.8 and insulin per day from 76 to 54 units. I keep going hypo and dropping the Lantus dose. I use the "commets" on my smartphone DAFNE diary to keep track numbered 1 - 8. L Thigh, R Thigh, L Buttock, R Buttock, L Back, L Stomach, R Stomach, R Back.

Nov 15, 2012 richard.arkle 16 posts	Topic: General Discussion / Surgery and insulin doses My experience from 5 ops is that the anethiest (?) had me on a glucose drip with insulin and looked after the lot !

Nov 15, 2012 Alan 49 284 posts	Topic: General Discussion / Petition for government funding The DAFNE User Action Group has raised a petition for governnent-funded eduucation programmes (which obviously includes DAFNE). Is everyone aware of this? The link to the e-peittion is: http://epetitions.direct.gov.uk/petitions/41345 Evidently they need 100,000 signatures.

Nov 15, 2012 novorapidboi26 1,819 posts	Topic: Questions for HCPs / snacking and corrections You really need to get your BI dose correct first before attempting any advanced dose adjustment..... I just made sure my BI was correct and that my carb count and ratios were right then tested every Half hour, it won't be exact but you can get it pretty close....I done that a few times to make sure Novorapid is on average 4-5 hours long

Nov 15, 2012 novorapidboi26 1,819 posts	Topic: Carbohydrate Counting / Carb free I know what you mean, you can make really big omelettes though.....;)

Nov 15, 2012 Gemsa 20 posts	Topic: Questions for HCPs / corrections after a hypo Well I don't know whether I had a hypo or not. I certainly didn't take any CPs but I don't know what my liver kicked out! Night before; went to bed at 7.8mmol, woke at 2am to do test and was 3.2mmol, had to correct with +2 rapid CP (+1 didn't have an affect within the 10mins wait which currently seems to be quite common for me) and then had 1.5 normal CP. Woke up for breakfast at 12.7 and obviously didn't correct because of previous hypo. Rest of the day wasn't too bad so glad I followed 'post hypo no correct' rule. Last night; went to bed at 14.4, woke at 2am to do test and was 12.6 so no CPs needed. Woke up for breakfast at 22.1. Therefore I suspect I had a hypo at about 3am instead - can't see why else it'd rise?! But my question was therefore normally I would correct for 22.1.... but if it was potentially after a hypo do I ignore the 'potential' and correct regardless, or do I play safe and assume it was a hypo therefore use the 'no correction' rule?

Nov 15, 2012 Gemsa 20 posts	Topic: Questions for HCPs / snacking and corrections All makes sense both Marke and Novorapidboi. Sorry to sound a dunce though... how do I find out how long my insulin lasts on average? (particularly if my BI isn't right yet and therefore my QA:CP ratio may be wrong too) 15 minutely blood tests?!

Nov 15, 2012 Gemsa 20 posts	Topic: Carbohydrate Counting / Carb free My partner doesn't eat eggs so unless I am baking in bulk we don't have them in the house as we (I!) don't get through a box before they go off. If I know in advance I'm going to do a proper carb free time then I can go out and buy them, but if I decide last minute (a far too frequent habbit) its harder. So no, having eggs isn't an issue, just needs planning! The bigger issue with eggs though... having had years of 'you must have carbs' drilled in, although yours does sound lovely, my stomach just looks at an omelette without a slice of bread and says "and, where's the rest?". A low carb meal just feels like an anorexic meal to me... (at the moment...) hence request for inspiration!!