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Mar 14, 2011

marke 686 posts

wow all this debate over one question :-) I think the real answer is that we all need to appreciate that Diabetes affects us in different ways and everyones experience is as valid as everyone elses. I don't feel limited and tend fortunately to not have too many hypo's but not everyone is that fortunate.
Perhaps the key thing to remember when posting is that your post may not be interpreted in the way you mean or intend it to be. Some of the debate 'appears' a bit heated at times, this may just be the way it comes across to me. Remeber we are all on the same side, trying to handle the same condition the best way we can. So lets all be nice to each other eh ?
A, B or C one thing you can be sure, Diabetes services will most likely get cut given the current economic situation. A cenus most likely won't change that in the slightest...

Mar 14, 2011

moyesy 10 posts

Mar 14, 2011 marke 686 posts	Topic: General Discussion / Census Form wow all this debate over one question :-) I think the real answer is that we all need to appreciate that Diabetes affects us in different ways and everyones experience is as valid as everyone elses. I don't feel limited and tend fortunately to not have too many hypo's but not everyone is that fortunate. Perhaps the key thing to remember when posting is that your post may not be interpreted in the way you mean or intend it to be. Some of the debate 'appears' a bit heated at times, this may just be the way it comes across to me. Remeber we are all on the same side, trying to handle the same condition the best way we can. So lets all be nice to each other eh ? A, B or C one thing you can be sure, Diabetes services will most likely get cut given the current economic situation. A cenus most likely won't change that in the slightest...

Mar 14, 2011 moyesy 10 posts	Topic: General Discussion / Census Form To sum up it would appear that we differ in opinion as to the answer to the Census Question. Perhaps the real answer is that everyone should have diabetes and live with it. It would break the NHS but we would all live excit ing lives . Mind you I pity other road users when I am having a hypo as there could be some blood shed. Still it's only something we have to live with. I am sure when Cameron gets the responses he'll live with it and might even find a way to apply cuts to the Diabetes Budget

Mar 14, 2011 novorapidboi26 1,819 posts	Topic: General Discussion / Census Form How so with the license, are you getting to the stage were you cant feel the symptoms...................people who through all the efforts to get there symptoms back but cant should definitely be in the limited category, and not just because they cant drive, just general life must be bad.......

Mar 14, 2011 vic demain 87 posts	Topic: General Discussion / Census Form One wonders if some people ever experience hypos? I do and they affect my day to day life dramatically, even to the extent where my driving licence is under threat. If I didn't have diabetes, and hadn't for the past 30 years, I wouldn't have this concern. Do I blame anything on diabetes? No, I get on with my life.

Mar 14, 2011 novorapidboi26 1,819 posts	Topic: General Discussion / App Hey Caroline, I hope this is the start of a new era in her diabetes management, hopefully she can now get on with living a bit..................keep us updated.................

Mar 14, 2011 novorapidboi26 1,819 posts	Topic: General Discussion / Insulin Pumps Hey Helen, Sorry if I missed any post regarding your pump, but how did it work out over in Australia regarding the funding, insurance etc...........

Mar 14, 2011 novorapidboi26 1,819 posts	Topic: General Discussion / Census Form If we can go back to the original post of this thread referring to the question are you A. Limited a lot B. Limited a little C. Not limited......... In reality the wide spectrum of diabetes severity does mean than some people will actually be limited in what they do, a good example would be lack of hypo awareness with no real solution in sight. They people could not drive a car. So the main point is that some people are limited, however some people, and I would say the majority are not limited but may still feel as if they are, so in the context of the census, surely just the simple feeling of the individual is what they are after in order to paint a picture of the country... Some people in this thread are referring to diabetes effecting them, that is not what the thread is talking about.........it is obvious we are all effected.......but limited is a whole different matter....... For me personally as I have posted earlier, I am not limited in any way in my day to day activities, note day to day......but just to mix things up a bit I would still put B as it is a possibility my day to day activities could be effected and thus limit me, this being the obvious event of severe hypo...

Mar 14, 2011 moyesy 10 posts	Topic: General Discussion / Census Form Hello sjohno you do seem to becoming dogmatic. i think you have made it clear that your Diabetes does not limit your daily activities. Others differ in opinion (and wahat's wrong with that). I have now made my choice on my Census Form and you can make your choice of answer. Again semantics but I don't let Diabetes rule my life but having Diabetes does limit my daily life in a way it would not be limited if I did not have Diabetes.

Mar 14, 2011 moyesy 10 posts	Topic: General Discussion / Census Form Hello sjohno you do seem to becoming dogmatic. i think you have made it clear that your Diabetes does not limit your daily activities. Others differ in opinion (and wahat's wrong with that). I have now made my choice on my Census Form and you can make your choice of answer. Again semantics but I don't let Diabetes rule my life but having Diabetes does limit my daily life in a way it would not be limited if I did not have Diabetes.

Mar 13, 2011 HelenP 218 posts	Topic: General Discussion / Census Form It is semantics...mostly the "limits" are to do with the time/planning and attention to details. There are some things that a diabetic is simply not allowed to do...fly commercial planes! I am planning a trip o'seas in ten days and the stuff I have to take to be "safe" is significant! Helen

Mar 13, 2011 Alan 49 284 posts	Topic: Site Development / Last Of course! What a dummy! Sorry about that.

Mar 13, 2011 marke 686 posts	Topic: Site Development / Last it lets you moved to the last post for a topic immediately rather than having to page through each page of a lengthy topic. Its not much use if a topic only has 2 or 3 posts, but if it has 20 or 30 that are split over 3,4,5 pages its useful to let you go to the last page quickly....

Mar 13, 2011 Alan 49 284 posts	Topic: Site Development / Last Can someone tell me why the word 'Last' sometimes appears next to the title of a topic? When I first saw it, I thought that the topic had been closed by the administrators or by the system, but I found that I was able to add a comment to a topic that had been 'Lasted'. It seems a bit pointless to me.

Mar 13, 2011 PNThompson 57 posts	Topic: General Discussion / Census Form I agree with MOYESY. If anybody has to control their diet or take medication it does change your life. Prior to attending DAFNE I never used to count Carbs, and just had a set injection. Now I spend more time calculating the injection and checking what i'm eating than what I did before. Prior to being Diabetic I took Sugar in my tea, drank normal soft drinks, not diet ones but now have changed what I eat and drink. These are just a small change to my life, but it does impact on it. I wanted to try some scuba diving a few years ago while on holiday, but was rejected because of my diabetes.

Mar 13, 2011 moyesy 10 posts	Topic: General Discussion / Census Form Seems to be getting well debated. Each has his opinion and must decide what (s)he thinks. Personally I believe that my life would be easier without five injections a day, having to count carbs at inconvenient times, attend hospital, surgeries etc. So I remain convinced that whilst Diabetes is not the end of the world I contend that for the vast majority of people it is fair to say that it does limit their lifestyle to some extent. Just to give a small example I forgot my insulin when away for a few days and had to seek alternative provision to ensure that the break continued.

Mar 13, 2011 marke 686 posts	Topic: General Discussion / Census Form ha, and I thought I wasn't tactful :-) I agree with what you say, not sure I would have been quite so blunt about it but each to their own ! I refuse to let Diabetes limit me in what I do, I might have to be a bit more organised and prepared than some but thats probably a good thing. The world is minus plenty of people that went climbing mountains/skydiving/etc without being prepared properly.....

Mar 11, 2011 HelenP 218 posts	Topic: General Discussion / Insulin Pumps Well my pump and I have been friends since Wednesday...initially very concerned but am now beginning to trust it more! Doing BG tests very frequently (hourly). The Credentialled Diabetic Educator (not a pumper) failed to "enable" a function on the pump that allowed for boluses! before she went home. So there was some s..t hitting the fan for a while but I now think my endo is impressed with my manual reading skills! (and confidence to fiddle!). Helen

Mar 11, 2011 PNThompson 57 posts	Topic: General Discussion / Census Form I feel that it has changed my life and does limit my activities. Simple things like driving a car is not a case of just jumping in the car and driving off. Technically we should check our blood prior to driving, so there is an impact. Since completing DAFNE we need to calculate the CP and have an injection so diabetes does effect my life though it isn't that significant.

Mar 11, 2011 HelenP 218 posts	Topic: General Discussion / Census Form Think how your life would change if you were suddenly not diabetic...then you would realize how effected your life is. Maybe we have all been diabetic for too long and have lost our sense of "normal". I'd tick b). Helen

Mar 11, 2011 caroline15 45 posts	Topic: General Discussion / App Just an update. Amy got her pump today, (Paradigm Veo) we go live on 21st March. She had yet another dose of DKA this week, four weeks after the last one - definitely hormone related.

Mar 11, 2011 moyesy 10 posts	Topic: General Discussion / Census Form Seems to have caused quite a lot of different opinion and that's to be expected. I think that I'll stick with my answer b as i do feel that diabetes certainly limits what I do if only being aware that if I were to decide to climb a mountain (God forbid) then I would certainly think would it be sensible to do in the light of my diabetes

Mar 11, 2011 vic demain 87 posts	Topic: General Discussion / Census Form Be it climbing a mountain, jumping out of an aeroplane, scuba diving or more mundane activities like dancing the night away, rowing down the Thames or getting lashed, all are affected by diabetes.

Mar 11, 2011 novorapidboi26 1,819 posts	Topic: General Discussion / Census Form Well put marke................. Some people may feel limited, others not.........so answering honestly is the moral of the story as the census is all about getting a feel for the people taking part...........

Mar 11, 2011 marke 686 posts	Topic: General Discussion / Census Form Vic, for me there is a difference between 'affected' and 'limited'. I agree we are all affected but I don't consider myself 'limited' in anyway. For any activity regardless of your condition you should do some sort of preperation be it climbing a mountain our just going to work. I ticked 'c', but that just a personnal opinion and others may feel 'b' or even 'a' is more applicable.