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Oct 10, 2011

Mags B 1 post

Topic: DAFNE Online Mobile / Iphone - contract or pay as you go

I have decided I want an iphone so I can use the DAFNE app. The dilemma is that I would need to pay a minimum of Â£26 a month plus Â£300 for the phone. There is an option to buy a older model for Â£400. As I hardly make any call and don't have enough friends to bother with Texts (aw poor me) I quite like the 2nd option.

The question is how much do I need to connect to the internet with the DAFNE app? The pay as you go option charges Â£1 per day to connect to the internet, but offers WiFi so I could presumably download at home for free? This falls apart if it connects by itself to the internet and charges me Â£1 per day for the privilege.

Please help - Contract or Pay as you go?
Mags Confused

Oct 10, 2011

novorapidboi26 1,816 posts

Topic: General Discussion / zumba :)

Its a tricky one this exercise business..........

If you have carbs and the corresponding insulin in your system at the time of the exercise, you would expect the glucose in your blood stream to be utilized then your muscles would start using their supplies to fuel themselves........

Does this fuel store from the muscle have to enter the blood stream?

Is it used directly, therefore eliminating the need for insulin?

If you have eaten your meal, would you still not need the unadjusted dose of QA to allow the glucose from the meal pass through into the cells?So why a reduction before the activity.......?

I really dont have a clue to be honest.............!! Laughing

Oct 10, 2011

novorapidboi26 1,816 posts

Topic: General Discussion / Carbs & Cals Books?

Alan Constable said:
My wife always makes the portion sizes the same, so once I have got it right, it's there in the book.

Nice.............. Wink

.............were would we be without the wives....................

Oct 10, 2011

Alan 49 280 posts

Topic: General Discussion / Carbs & Cals Books?

My wife always makes the portion sizes the same, so once I have got it right, it's there in the book.

Oct 10, 2011

novorapidboi26 1,816 posts

Topic: General Discussion / Carbs & Cals Books?

Have you recorded the weights of these items..........?

For the carb count to be effective each item would need to be the same size of portion.....no?

Oct 10, 2011

Alan 49 280 posts

Topic: General Discussion / Carbs & Cals Books?

As well as referring to the DAFNE Carb book, I have a separate book (I use an old Filofax book) to record meals. I have a section for breakfasts in which I record the different breakfasts I have, with the details of the various items in that meal and their carbs. I also record (in pencil) the insulin dosage I gave myself. So when I test my BG afterwards, I can see how good my calculation was and if necessary, change the insulin dosage for that meal.

I also have sections in the book for Lunches and Dinners. As an example, I haved Dinner07 down as:

Rice 4.5 CPs
Beef Goulash 2.5 CPs
Plain Yogurt 1 CP
Grapes 1 CP

TOTAL 9 CPs and therefore (for me) an insulin dosage of 18 QA

I find this book very useful (providing I keep it up-to-date).

Oct 10, 2011

novorapidboi26 1,816 posts

Topic: General Discussion / diary entries

Or you can also click on the blue underlined link which allows you to edit that specific reading, if only on element of the entry was wrong as opposed to all of it......... Wink

Oct 10, 2011

SA2010 69 posts

Topic: Site Development / Displayed View of BG Diary and End of Day special setting

Hi Simon

That is actually what I did setting my end of day as 2am. So I was expecting any entry up to that time to be treated as belonging to the previous day when filtering displays from day x to day y. At the moment diary displays start with one entry for midnight to 2am and then full day entries after that.

Thinking about it now - may be it is better to leave it as it is as one does want to know what the previous day's bedtime BG / BI etc when looking at the start of day numbers

regards

simon

Oct 10, 2011

Simon 574 posts

Topic: Site Development / Displayed View of BG Diary and End of Day special setting

Hi Simon,

You can change this in your Diary Settings page; when viewing your diary on the site, scroll down to the Add Entry section, and at the top of that theres a link to your settings.

Thanks,

Simon

Oct 10, 2011

SA2010 69 posts

Topic: General Discussion / Carbs & Cals Books?

The book is useful for me for working out the carbs for foods that have no nutrition info on the packaging and are mentioned in this book and not covered by the DAFNE Carbohydrate Portion List booklet. I appear to be very sensitive to insulin and fearing hypos I try to get as close to the actual CP estimate as possible. Also my guestimates do not work very well as I am often way out after eating out. Hopefully in time this will improve but my insulin sensitivity may take a while to change. The Carbs & Cals book is also easy to use by members of the family with all its visual content. Just got the iPhone version of the book as that gives all updates for free.

Oct 10, 2011

richard.arkle 16 posts

Topic: General Discussion / Cheaper Test Strips

This concerns me as well

I use the iPhone app so don't need all all fancy features on many machines, basically they all do the same job so why such a price difference?

Oct 9, 2011

PNThompson 57 posts

Topic: General Discussion / zumba :)

The reading could also be a false high and you are experiencing a Hypo.
I used to do a gym class and the Diabetic clinic used to suggest eating something prior to the class (a could of Rich Tea biscuits)
Do you test before the class?

Despite the manual I have found that my body doesn't react the same way and I often experienced high BG reading after the gym or football though the rwadings crashed later.

Oct 8, 2011

oggster 2 posts

Topic: General Discussion / diary entries

thanks karl i got it now Very Happy

Oct 7, 2011

Karl 83 posts

Topic: General Discussion / diary entries

oggster said:
hi all,just finnished my dafne week in aberdeen (thanks leah and razia for a great week)and started to fill in my diary online here and have made a mess of my entries and wondered,can you start again from scratch? tia oggster.

just select each one (tick box near time) and press the deleted selected at the bottom

Oct 7, 2011

oggster 2 posts

Topic: General Discussion / diary entries

hi all,just finnished my dafne week in aberdeen (thanks leah and razia for a great week)and started to fill in my diary online here and have made a mess of my entries and wondered,can you start again from scratch? tia oggster. Rolling Eyes

Oct 7, 2011

Alan 49 280 posts

Topic: General Discussion / Cheaper Test Strips

I'm sure that most of us who use this site are aware (and like me - concerned) about the cost of the various products we get on prescription - especially in these times of cuts and shortages. Most test strips, for instance, cost about Â£25 per pot of 50.

There is a meter on the market, evidently, where the cost is only Â£12.95 per pot. The meter is called a CareSens meter. Their website address is www.caresens.co.uk and the meters are available free of charge.

I should point out that I have no connection with this company and that I have no knowledge of this meter. Has anybody used a CareSens meter? If so, what do they think of it?

Oct 7, 2011

tcmonkey80 41 posts

Topic: General Discussion / zumba :)

hey guys, thanks for the advise
my class is after work at 6.30, so dont have dinner before i go Crying or Very sad

Oct 7, 2011

jgibson1962 29 posts

Topic: General Discussion / How do i get on a DAFNE course

I work in IT so spreadsheet programming is pretty standard stuff.

Oct 7, 2011

jgibson1962 29 posts

Topic: General Discussion / When to test

Maybe the GP and the consultant share the same piggy bank lol..

Oct 7, 2011

novorapidboi26 1,816 posts

Topic: General Discussion / How do i get on a DAFNE course

From what I have seen of it, I would keep it just as it is, seems really good, if you do get on DAFNE, or at least start using there terms like QA, CP, BI, then you could adapt your sheet to suit..........

its the best one I have seen, have you done similar spreadsheets in your working life..........?

Oct 7, 2011

jgibson1962 29 posts

Topic: General Discussion / How do i get on a DAFNE course

For the daytime i use the log book the hospital gave me then transfer the results to my spreadsheet later and now i have joined this site i can do it here too. The reason i have the graphs etc is useful as i can stick it on my memory stick or email it to the doc if need be.....its a voyage of discovery at the moment, i have yet to decide what is best for me.

Oct 7, 2011

novorapidboi26 1,816 posts

Topic: General Discussion / How do i get on a DAFNE course

its OK, I have one, it doesn't contain formulas, as I dont require and graphs or totals/averages to be produced, that is all done on here through the online diary................it gives you 7, 14, 30 and 90 day averages and lots of different graphs.............

I like to write down my results through the day and then back them up on here, which also gives me the averages, so I can work out my guesstimated HbA1c, so that's the main purpose of the spreadsheet.........

Oct 7, 2011

novorapidboi26 1,816 posts

Topic: General Discussion / When to test

So what happens when you save up and have money for it.................were do you go? who actually teaches the material? I would go elsewhere, really......!

No test can tell you how stable you actually are apart from finger prick testing, as you could have an OK HbA1c, but it is only an average, you could have lots of lows, and lots of highs, which can bring its own problems to the micro vascular system.....

Once I completed DAFNE, and this applies to other graduates also, your educators will write a letter that you can give to your GP stating you need more strips to allow you to follow the DAFNE principals.....................its strange your consultant would be concerned, as they dont provide you with the strips, its the GP that funds them.......

Oct 7, 2011

jgibson1962 29 posts

Topic: General Discussion / How do i get on a DAFNE course

Its something i knocked up myself using my knowledge of excel formulas. Be happy to send it to you, its pretty basic.

Oct 10, 2011 Mags B 1 post	Topic: DAFNE Online Mobile / Iphone - contract or pay as you go I have decided I want an iphone so I can use the DAFNE app. The dilemma is that I would need to pay a minimum of Â£26 a month plus Â£300 for the phone. There is an option to buy a older model for Â£400. As I hardly make any call and don't have enough friends to bother with Texts (aw poor me) I quite like the 2nd option. The question is how much do I need to connect to the internet with the DAFNE app? The pay as you go option charges Â£1 per day to connect to the internet, but offers WiFi so I could presumably download at home for free? This falls apart if it connects by itself to the internet and charges me Â£1 per day for the privilege. Please help - Contract or Pay as you go? Mags

Oct 10, 2011 novorapidboi26 1,816 posts	Topic: General Discussion / zumba :) Its a tricky one this exercise business.......... If you have carbs and the corresponding insulin in your system at the time of the exercise, you would expect the glucose in your blood stream to be utilized then your muscles would start using their supplies to fuel themselves........ Does this fuel store from the muscle have to enter the blood stream? Is it used directly, therefore eliminating the need for insulin? If you have eaten your meal, would you still not need the unadjusted dose of QA to allow the glucose from the meal pass through into the cells?So why a reduction before the activity.......? I really dont have a clue to be honest.............!!

Oct 10, 2011 novorapidboi26 1,816 posts	Topic: General Discussion / Carbs & Cals Books? Alan Constable said: My wife always makes the portion sizes the same, so once I have got it right, it's there in the book. Nice.............. .............were would we be without the wives....................

Oct 10, 2011 Alan 49 280 posts	Topic: General Discussion / Carbs & Cals Books? My wife always makes the portion sizes the same, so once I have got it right, it's there in the book.

Oct 10, 2011 novorapidboi26 1,816 posts	Topic: General Discussion / Carbs & Cals Books? Have you recorded the weights of these items..........? For the carb count to be effective each item would need to be the same size of portion.....no?

Oct 10, 2011 Alan 49 280 posts	Topic: General Discussion / Carbs & Cals Books? As well as referring to the DAFNE Carb book, I have a separate book (I use an old Filofax book) to record meals. I have a section for breakfasts in which I record the different breakfasts I have, with the details of the various items in that meal and their carbs. I also record (in pencil) the insulin dosage I gave myself. So when I test my BG afterwards, I can see how good my calculation was and if necessary, change the insulin dosage for that meal. I also have sections in the book for Lunches and Dinners. As an example, I haved Dinner07 down as: Rice 4.5 CPs Beef Goulash 2.5 CPs Plain Yogurt 1 CP Grapes 1 CP TOTAL 9 CPs and therefore (for me) an insulin dosage of 18 QA I find this book very useful (providing I keep it up-to-date).

Oct 10, 2011 novorapidboi26 1,816 posts	Topic: General Discussion / diary entries Or you can also click on the blue underlined link which allows you to edit that specific reading, if only on element of the entry was wrong as opposed to all of it.........

Oct 10, 2011 SA2010 69 posts	Topic: Site Development / Displayed View of BG Diary and End of Day special setting Hi Simon That is actually what I did setting my end of day as 2am. So I was expecting any entry up to that time to be treated as belonging to the previous day when filtering displays from day x to day y. At the moment diary displays start with one entry for midnight to 2am and then full day entries after that. Thinking about it now - may be it is better to leave it as it is as one does want to know what the previous day's bedtime BG / BI etc when looking at the start of day numbers regards simon

Oct 10, 2011 Simon 574 posts	Topic: Site Development / Displayed View of BG Diary and End of Day special setting Hi Simon, You can change this in your Diary Settings page; when viewing your diary on the site, scroll down to the Add Entry section, and at the top of that theres a link to your settings. Thanks, Simon

Oct 10, 2011 SA2010 69 posts	Topic: General Discussion / Carbs & Cals Books? The book is useful for me for working out the carbs for foods that have no nutrition info on the packaging and are mentioned in this book and not covered by the DAFNE Carbohydrate Portion List booklet. I appear to be very sensitive to insulin and fearing hypos I try to get as close to the actual CP estimate as possible. Also my guestimates do not work very well as I am often way out after eating out. Hopefully in time this will improve but my insulin sensitivity may take a while to change. The Carbs & Cals book is also easy to use by members of the family with all its visual content. Just got the iPhone version of the book as that gives all updates for free.

Oct 10, 2011 richard.arkle 16 posts	Topic: General Discussion / Cheaper Test Strips This concerns me as well I use the iPhone app so don't need all all fancy features on many machines, basically they all do the same job so why such a price difference?

Oct 9, 2011 PNThompson 57 posts	Topic: General Discussion / zumba :) The reading could also be a false high and you are experiencing a Hypo. I used to do a gym class and the Diabetic clinic used to suggest eating something prior to the class (a could of Rich Tea biscuits) Do you test before the class? Despite the manual I have found that my body doesn't react the same way and I often experienced high BG reading after the gym or football though the rwadings crashed later.

Oct 8, 2011 oggster 2 posts	Topic: General Discussion / diary entries thanks karl i got it now

Oct 7, 2011 Karl 83 posts	Topic: General Discussion / diary entries oggster said: hi all,just finnished my dafne week in aberdeen (thanks leah and razia for a great week)and started to fill in my diary online here and have made a mess of my entries and wondered,can you start again from scratch? tia oggster. just select each one (tick box near time) and press the deleted selected at the bottom

Oct 7, 2011 oggster 2 posts	Topic: General Discussion / diary entries hi all,just finnished my dafne week in aberdeen (thanks leah and razia for a great week)and started to fill in my diary online here and have made a mess of my entries and wondered,can you start again from scratch? tia oggster.

Oct 7, 2011 Alan 49 280 posts	Topic: General Discussion / Cheaper Test Strips I'm sure that most of us who use this site are aware (and like me - concerned) about the cost of the various products we get on prescription - especially in these times of cuts and shortages. Most test strips, for instance, cost about Â£25 per pot of 50. There is a meter on the market, evidently, where the cost is only Â£12.95 per pot. The meter is called a CareSens meter. Their website address is www.caresens.co.uk and the meters are available free of charge. I should point out that I have no connection with this company and that I have no knowledge of this meter. Has anybody used a CareSens meter? If so, what do they think of it?

Oct 7, 2011 tcmonkey80 41 posts	Topic: General Discussion / zumba :) hey guys, thanks for the advise my class is after work at 6.30, so dont have dinner before i go

Oct 7, 2011 jgibson1962 29 posts	Topic: General Discussion / How do i get on a DAFNE course I work in IT so spreadsheet programming is pretty standard stuff.

Oct 7, 2011 jgibson1962 29 posts	Topic: General Discussion / When to test Maybe the GP and the consultant share the same piggy bank lol..

Oct 7, 2011 novorapidboi26 1,816 posts	Topic: General Discussion / How do i get on a DAFNE course From what I have seen of it, I would keep it just as it is, seems really good, if you do get on DAFNE, or at least start using there terms like QA, CP, BI, then you could adapt your sheet to suit.......... its the best one I have seen, have you done similar spreadsheets in your working life..........?

Oct 7, 2011 jgibson1962 29 posts	Topic: General Discussion / How do i get on a DAFNE course For the daytime i use the log book the hospital gave me then transfer the results to my spreadsheet later and now i have joined this site i can do it here too. The reason i have the graphs etc is useful as i can stick it on my memory stick or email it to the doc if need be.....its a voyage of discovery at the moment, i have yet to decide what is best for me.

Oct 7, 2011 novorapidboi26 1,816 posts	Topic: General Discussion / How do i get on a DAFNE course its OK, I have one, it doesn't contain formulas, as I dont require and graphs or totals/averages to be produced, that is all done on here through the online diary................it gives you 7, 14, 30 and 90 day averages and lots of different graphs............. I like to write down my results through the day and then back them up on here, which also gives me the averages, so I can work out my guesstimated HbA1c, so that's the main purpose of the spreadsheet.........

Oct 7, 2011 novorapidboi26 1,816 posts	Topic: General Discussion / When to test So what happens when you save up and have money for it.................were do you go? who actually teaches the material? I would go elsewhere, really......! No test can tell you how stable you actually are apart from finger prick testing, as you could have an OK HbA1c, but it is only an average, you could have lots of lows, and lots of highs, which can bring its own problems to the micro vascular system..... Once I completed DAFNE, and this applies to other graduates also, your educators will write a letter that you can give to your GP stating you need more strips to allow you to follow the DAFNE principals.....................its strange your consultant would be concerned, as they dont provide you with the strips, its the GP that funds them.......

Oct 7, 2011 jgibson1962 29 posts	Topic: General Discussion / How do i get on a DAFNE course Its something i knocked up myself using my knowledge of excel formulas. Be happy to send it to you, its pretty basic.