Vinegar tablets

Hi, I'm just wondering if anyone on here has tried vinegar tablets for dawn phenomenon? I've read online that taking these at night before bed help to combat it

I've not read or heard that before! Would it be cider vinegar? As these are good for breaking down fats/sugars- overall toxins in your system! Though I've never tried them! Exercising in the late afternoon- evening could help you balance your BG readings Vicky!

Hi Glen, yeah apparently cider vinegar tablets at night help the BG levels in the morning. Heard about exercise helping as well but that's not always an option so thought would look up other options. Also read that snacking on nuts if you wake through the night helps, tried this last night and sugars were perfect this morning! One thing I'm unsure of though is if you should correct with dawn phenomenon in the morning?

It's not something I've really struggled with Vicky!? On my working week I've got a set routine of times + CP portions- I'm almost there on my ratios I think??? It's at the weekend- late nights/ lie-ins that can throw a spanner in the works! Generally your BG 1st thing in the morning shouldn't rise by no more than 1.5 mmol, if everything is normal! Mine rose overnight once from 6.5-20! I've raised my nighttime BI since! Underestimating CP's doesn't help. Also if you were becoming ill- all to be taken into account Vicky! Your night time BI can sometimes catch it's 2nd wind mid morning with your breakfast QA! It's trial + error- you're getting there! Nuts are a tasty snack( pistachios, natural bars)

Thanks Glen, yeah feel like can see the light at end of the tunnel now. When started the DAFNE course had practically zero hypo awareness, now I'm feeling it when I'm at 4! Been advised to keep BI at 7 for just now feel comfortable with it so going to continue to eat pistachios at 5 AM for the time being, as you said a tasty snack anyway. Think a possibility for me could be to eat even a slice of toast earlier in the morning and take QA plus extra if needed as usually I don't eat till nearly lunch time and my sugars continue to rise until then. Exercise isn't always an option for me as running around after 3 kids but I suppose that's exercise in itself

Yes my awareness is a hundred times better! I'm able to recognise them earlier + am able to help myself without help from other people! It's better when you get that control- feel more confident! Toast is a good option! I had 2 slices this morning around 5. My BG didn't really altar between 5-9.30(morning break)! It's slow release carbs. As long as your BI + morning ratios are fine then you should be ok!? I bet 3 kids keep you busy!?

I reckon that when you're not eating until lunch(when your BG seem to rise). It's probably your BI wearing off!? You're still injecting your morning BI at a set time regardless of when you have your 1st meal with CP's!? Am I making sense Vicki?

Can I ask do you cover the toast at 5 AM? Yeah the kids keep me on my toes!! I see what your saying, it does make sense but I'm taking my BI 8 hours apart so there's no way it's running out at 7:30 AM if I take it at 11:30 PM. Emailed my BG diary to DAFNE nurse and she's thinking the same as me, dawn phenomenon. Been advised to checked my sugars every hour from 3 AM to 6 AM to see exactly when they start to rise. Said injecting QA half hour before they go up should keep them in a normal range but feeling slightly apprehensive about doing that as it seems to be a bit of a guessing game?

I take my BI at between 1700-1830 in the evening. On work days I take my BI at 0500. Weekends between 8-9. When I'm injecting at 5 in the morning I will check my BG and go from there! They're pretty stable at the moment so I'm doing a 1:1 ratio which seems to work! Instead of a big rise 3-4 hours later I seem to drop by several units sometimes in the 3-4 range! Although I am on my feet pretty active at work! If I've reduced my dosage it seems to go the other way!? Yeah I normally cover what I'm eating as and when Vicki!

That's brilliant to know, thank you!! Going to try eating the nuts at 5 as my BG is still within a normal range then and eat and take BI at 7:30-8 and if that doesn't work I'll maybe try moving BI earlier for both injections. Feels good to know I'm not only one in this situation