Ratios / higher number of units of insulin

November 12, 2012 13:22

mum2westiesGill 502 posts

1:10 = 1 unit of insulin for every 10g carbs
50g carbs would be 5u

what would be the next highest ratio / number of units of insulin?

November 12, 2012 14:00

DianeW DAFNE Graduate
South West Essex PCT 115 posts

The answer to your question from your example woujld be 1.5:1.

1:1 is. 1 unit QA equals 1 CP *1 CP being 10g of carbs)
1.5:1 is 1.5 units QA to 1 CP (i.e. if you have 4 CPs equals 6 units QA
2:1 is 2 units QA for every 1 CP ( i.e. 4 CP equals 8 units QA)

and then the ratios increase by half at a time

November 12, 2012 14:18

mum2westiesGill 502 posts

DianeW said:
The answer to your question from your example woujld be 1.5:1.

1:1 is. 1 unit QA equals 1 CP *1 CP being 10g of carbs)
1.5:1 is 1.5 units QA to 1 CP (i.e. if you have 4 CPs equals 6 units QA
2:1 is 2 units QA for every 1 CP ( i.e. 4 CP equals 8 units QA)

and then the ratios increase by half at a time

Thank you.

Do you have some examples like this going up for every 8 carbs

1:8 = 1 unit of insulin for every 8 carbs

November 12, 2012 15:21

DianeW DAFNE Graduate
South West Essex PCT 115 posts

Hi

I think you are getting confused....1 unit of insulin would never be able to cope with 8 CPs.

Whatever amount of CPs you have, you just multiply that by your ratio (i.e. 1.5 or 2 or 2.5 or 3) for example if you were on 1.5:1 and you had 8 CPs that would be 8 x 1.5 = 12 units. If you were on 2:1 with 8 CPS you would have 8 x 2 = 16 units. So it all depends on the ratio you are on.

If you're still not sure then I would strongly suggest you talk to your own diabetic team who will be able to suggest the right ratio for you based on your readings.

November 12, 2012 15:34

mum2westiesGill 502 posts

DianeW said:
Hi

I think you are getting confused....1 unit of insulin would never be able to cope with 8 CPs.

Whatever amount of CPs you have, you just multiply that by your ratio (i.e. 1.5 or 2 or 2.5 or 3) for example if you were on 1.5:1 and you had 8 CPs that would be 8 x 1.5 = 12 units. If you were on 2:1 with 8 CPS you would have 8 x 2 = 16 units. So it all depends on the ratio you are on.

If you're still not sure then I would strongly suggest you talk to your own diabetic team who will be able to suggest the right ratio for you based on your readings.

Thank you DianeW. Those examples you've given me are much clearer now Very Happy

x

November 13, 2012 12:52

novorapidboi26 DAFNE Graduate
NHS Lanarkshire 1,819 posts

I think there is a slight misunderstanding but remember that whiskysmum has not actually done DAFNE and so does not know the procedure when dose adjusting............you do now though..... Wink

you have probably been seeing people refer to such ratios on diabetessupport, however these people will be on pumps most likely. There will be some who are injecting and this may work for them.........

I am sure I read somewhere that the standard/average carbs processes from 1 unit is 10 for adults and 15 for children, this may now be out of date but DAFNE is based on this..... Very Happy

November 13, 2012 19:31

mum2westiesGill 502 posts

novorapidboi26 said:
I think there is a slight misunderstanding but remember that whiskysmum has not actually done DAFNE and so does not know the procedure when dose adjusting............you do now though.....

you have probably been seeing people refer to such ratios on diabetessupport, however these people will be on pumps most likely. There will be some who are injecting and this may work for them.........

I am sure I read somewhere that the standard/average carbs processes from 1 unit is 10 for adults and 15 for children, this may now be out of date but DAFNE is based on this.....

That's correct I've never done DAFNE Sad

. My one way of learning / teaching myself is by way of the forum. Now thanks to you lovely people on the forum I'm getting to know all about the dose adjusting - thank you Very Happy

!

Yes I've seen people refering to such ratios on diabetessupport. Another good forum.

November 12, 2012 13:22 mum2westiesGill 502 posts	1:10 = 1 unit of insulin for every 10g carbs 50g carbs would be 5u what would be the next highest ratio / number of units of insulin?
November 12, 2012 14:00 DianeW DAFNE Graduate South West Essex PCT 115 posts	The answer to your question from your example woujld be 1.5:1. 1:1 is. 1 unit QA equals 1 CP *1 CP being 10g of carbs) 1.5:1 is 1.5 units QA to 1 CP (i.e. if you have 4 CPs equals 6 units QA 2:1 is 2 units QA for every 1 CP ( i.e. 4 CP equals 8 units QA) and then the ratios increase by half at a time
November 12, 2012 14:18 mum2westiesGill 502 posts	DianeW said: The answer to your question from your example woujld be 1.5:1. 1:1 is. 1 unit QA equals 1 CP *1 CP being 10g of carbs) 1.5:1 is 1.5 units QA to 1 CP (i.e. if you have 4 CPs equals 6 units QA 2:1 is 2 units QA for every 1 CP ( i.e. 4 CP equals 8 units QA) and then the ratios increase by half at a time Thank you. Do you have some examples like this going up for every 8 carbs 1:8 = 1 unit of insulin for every 8 carbs
November 12, 2012 15:21 DianeW DAFNE Graduate South West Essex PCT 115 posts	Hi I think you are getting confused....1 unit of insulin would never be able to cope with 8 CPs. Whatever amount of CPs you have, you just multiply that by your ratio (i.e. 1.5 or 2 or 2.5 or 3) for example if you were on 1.5:1 and you had 8 CPs that would be 8 x 1.5 = 12 units. If you were on 2:1 with 8 CPS you would have 8 x 2 = 16 units. So it all depends on the ratio you are on. If you're still not sure then I would strongly suggest you talk to your own diabetic team who will be able to suggest the right ratio for you based on your readings.
November 12, 2012 15:34 mum2westiesGill 502 posts	DianeW said: Hi I think you are getting confused....1 unit of insulin would never be able to cope with 8 CPs. Whatever amount of CPs you have, you just multiply that by your ratio (i.e. 1.5 or 2 or 2.5 or 3) for example if you were on 1.5:1 and you had 8 CPs that would be 8 x 1.5 = 12 units. If you were on 2:1 with 8 CPS you would have 8 x 2 = 16 units. So it all depends on the ratio you are on. If you're still not sure then I would strongly suggest you talk to your own diabetic team who will be able to suggest the right ratio for you based on your readings. Thank you DianeW. Those examples you've given me are much clearer now x
November 13, 2012 12:52 novorapidboi26 DAFNE Graduate NHS Lanarkshire 1,819 posts	I think there is a slight misunderstanding but remember that whiskysmum has not actually done DAFNE and so does not know the procedure when dose adjusting............you do now though..... you have probably been seeing people refer to such ratios on diabetessupport, however these people will be on pumps most likely. There will be some who are injecting and this may work for them......... I am sure I read somewhere that the standard/average carbs processes from 1 unit is 10 for adults and 15 for children, this may now be out of date but DAFNE is based on this.....
November 13, 2012 19:31 mum2westiesGill 502 posts	novorapidboi26 said: I think there is a slight misunderstanding but remember that whiskysmum has not actually done DAFNE and so does not know the procedure when dose adjusting............you do now though..... you have probably been seeing people refer to such ratios on diabetessupport, however these people will be on pumps most likely. There will be some who are injecting and this may work for them......... I am sure I read somewhere that the standard/average carbs processes from 1 unit is 10 for adults and 15 for children, this may now be out of date but DAFNE is based on this..... That's correct I've never done DAFNE . My one way of learning / teaching myself is by way of the forum. Now thanks to you lovely people on the forum I'm getting to know all about the dose adjusting - thank you ! Yes I've seen people refering to such ratios on diabetessupport. Another good forum.