Jared40
DAFNE Graduate
County Durham and Darlington NHS Foundation Trust
2 posts
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Does anybody else find that non DAFNE health care professionals can be foolish and at times plain dangerous? In my 21 years with diabetes I have expereanced many examples of this. For example shortly after being married I remember a young doctor taking great delight in humiliating me. Mid way through his rant this boy who barely looked old enough to shave gave my wife a wink and said "I bet it's been a while since he had a good telling off" I wanted to hit him. As it turned out my Hba1c came back perfect. But the damage was done. I did not want to take any advice from that horrible man and therefore missed many clinic appointments and was even less motivated to do blood tests. Would you go to your boss and try to negotiate time off to see some guy who looks down his nose and gives you a verbal kicking because he "knows" there is no excuse for poor control. "I went to university and read a book so I know about this" On another occasion my wife was hypo but too ill to eat or drink. Her sister phoned the local GP for some advice and was told by the receptionist that if she was a diabetic she must need her insulin. We politely asked to speak to a doctor. Yesterday we had a similar experience . A hospital doctor told my wife that it was no wonder she was ill as she had eaten half of my steak pie and diabetics should not eat pies. A more senior doctor examined her and it turns out that she has non pie related kidney problems. How different that is to those two wonderful ladies who ran my DAFNE course. On the first day they said diabetes was not my fault. I wanted to kiss them. They told me not to expect perfection. I wanted to kiss them again. They gave me skills that will prolong and improve my life. I love those girls. I am eager to get my blood tests done and attend every appointment. If you are still reading this thank you. I've wanted to get some of that off my chest for years. Have you had a similar experience or does this sort of thing just happen to me?
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John H
DAFNE Graduate
Northamptonshire Healthcare NHS Foundation Trust
20 posts
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Jared40 said: Does anybody else find that non DAFNE health care professionals can be foolish and at times plain dangerous? In my 21 years with diabetes I have expereanced many examples of this. For example shortly after being married I remember a young doctor taking great delight in humiliating me. Mid way through his rant this boy who barely looked old enough to shave gave my wife a wink and said "I bet it's been a while since he had a good telling off" I wanted to hit him. As it turned out my Hba1c came back perfect. But the damage was done. I did not want to take any advice from that horrible man and therefore missed many clinic appointments and was even less motivated to do blood tests. Would you go to your boss and try to negotiate time off to see some guy who looks down his nose and gives you a verbal kicking because he "knows" there is no excuse for poor control. "I went to university and read a book so I know about this" On another occasion my wife was hypo but too ill to eat or drink. Her sister phoned the local GP for some advice and was told by the receptionist that if she was a diabetic she must need her insulin. We politely asked to speak to a doctor. Yesterday we had a similar experience . A hospital doctor told my wife that it was no wonder she was ill as she had eaten half of my steak pie and diabetics should not eat pies. A more senior doctor examined her and it turns out that she has non pie related kidney problems. How different that is to those two wonderful ladies who ran my DAFNE course. On the first day they said diabetes was not my fault. I wanted to kiss them. They told me not to expect perfection. I wanted to kiss them again. They gave me skills that will prolong and improve my life. I love those girls. I am eager to get my blood tests done and attend every appointment. If you are still reading this thank you. I've wanted to get some of that off my chest for years. Have you had a similar experience or does this sort of thing just happen to me?
Hello, I can confirm that DAFNE will save lives, also that the GPs and some diabetes centres are run and managed by "HOBBYists" these individuals should be stripped of their alleged qualifications, and made to attend appropriate courses to bring them up to speed. Having spoken to some friends who dont suffer from diabetes but have experienced similar incompetence from healthcare professionals, they made it clear that the Germans are years ahead of us. We understood that the DAFNE concept was invented back in the 1980s, so as I was diagnosed in 1976 - it took all of 35 years to get the proper information and coaching to look after myself (after all the damage of diabetes related diseases have taken hold and cant be reversed.) I am blessed by the DAFNE girls at Northampton, they have done so much and continue to do so. Hats off to all involved in any part of DAFNE.
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novorapidboi26
DAFNE Graduate
NHS Lanarkshire
1,819 posts
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I understand were your coming from, fortunately for me though, all the non DAFNE educated HCPs know they dont have that knowledge and are less qualified than me to handle things, in fact, after DAFNE I dont really need any professional help, at least in terms of blood sugar levels and insulin doses..............
Doesn't mean my blood sugars are perfect though, maybe if I exercised more and cut my carbs I would be closer to perfection.......
The incident regarding the steak pie comments is awful, however, I dont think would have changed even if DAFNE was available to them, as it seems it was just a stupid remark......................
Unfortunately you will come across so called professionals like this regardless of their familiarity with DAFNE...........
I am glad DAFNE has been good for you, it changed my whole diabetic life and for that I am truly grateful to the German bloke that came up with it.......
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williammcleod
DAFNE Graduate
Hull University Teaching Hospitals NHS Trust
6 posts
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I was in the Armed forces when i was Diagnosed with Type 1 Diabetes and sent to the local civilian hospital. I started to get a lecture from a rather overweight consultant about weight management etc. I was fit as a fiddle and not over weight so just gave him a knowing smile which stopped him in his tracks and made the nurses laugh.
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