DAFNE Online Mobile

May 11, 2012

Simon 382 posts

Topic: Site Development / Auto calculate QA from BG - let's get it right

I've started work on this and have come across another question: if for example my before bed target was 6.5-8 mmol/l, and I was aiming for 50% of the range between them (7.25 mmol/l) and I'd input a qa:BG lowering ratio of 2.5, there is an opportunity for the calculation to aim for below the minimum target, as follows:

If my BG here was 8.5, the calculation would be (8.5-7.25) / 2.5 = 0.5 which would be rounded up to a correction dose of 1, which if taken should bring the BG down to 6 which is below the minimum target range.

At the moment in these circumstances ive got it taking 1 from the correction dose, but think it may be better to always round down the correction for safety reasons.

What do people think (if you managed to follow my calculations!)?

May 10, 2012

Simon 382 posts

Topic: Site Development / Auto calculate QA from BG - let's get it right

Thanks for your responses so far..

Stew - yes it will be defaulted to off, and people will also need to agree to a disclaimer before turning it on.

It seems there is a need for a few variables:

1. First of all, the point in your target range the app aims for, so this could be changed using a slider to favour the top or bottom of the range.

2. Secondly, different correction factors for different times of day and/or different BG levels. With this I propose setting a general 'expected correction' setting which would be used unless users put in specific overrides e.g. for BG above 13mmol/l or for specific times of day. One question here is should it be done on entry type (Breakfast, Lunch, Dinner) or a specific time range?

Are there any thoughts on the above?

May 10, 2012

Simon 382 posts

Topic: Site Development / Standard Deviation..

Sounds good, will put it on the to do list Smile

May 5, 2012

Simon 382 posts

Topic: Site Development / Slow site response....

I doubt that your work will let you circumvent the proxy, they are put there for security reasons... Have you tried in a different web browser?

May 5, 2012

Simon 382 posts

Topic: Site Development / Setting my time zone for Blood Glucose Diary entries

Hi Warwick,

Ill take a look at getting the right time displayed for you and the rest of our Australia and New Zealand members.

On the search question, you should see a link to search the forums just under the topic heading and at the top of most forum pages.

Simon

May 4, 2012

Simon 382 posts

Topic: Site Development / Slow site response....

Hi Novorapidboi,

There shouldn't be any issues at the moment, the site move is now complete. One way to see if there is a difference between your home and work connection is to ping the site. If you are on windows, you can open up the start menu, click run and then type CMD into the box.

Once the black window with white text pops up type ping www.dafneonline.co.uk

There will be 4 lines saying Reply from xyz, notice the time=XXms entries, and let us know if there is any significant difference between home and work.

Cheers

May 1, 2012

Simon 382 posts

Topic: Site Development / Auto calculate QA from BG - let's get it right

Theres been discussion and requests for an improved auto calculation of QA in the site and mbi,e apps, which take into account corrective dosages as well, and I'd like to get a consensus on how we should do it.

The first thing I should say is that we don't have the ability to deal with any lawsuits, as we aren't part of the DAFNE program and are a group of graduates just like you who do this in our spare time; so my first diorite is ensuring we dont get sued for providing inaccurate medical advice or similar.

That said , we also want to help graduates in any way possible, so I'd like to go ahead with this function and have created this forum post to ensure we get it right.

So, the auto calculation of insulin dosage matched to CPs is simple - its just take the CP input and multiply by the ratio for that entry type. The tricky bit is how to calculate the corrective dosage. An initial first pass at this would require users to enter how much they expect their BG to lower after injecting 1 unit of insulin. The app could then calculate the difference between input BG and target BG, and use this to calculate the number of corrective units needed. That way it isn't giving medical advice, just crunching some numbers.

However there are a couple of questions in my mind:

1. What would we aim for with the correction? Each entry type has a target range of mmol/l readings, would we aim for the middle of this, or err on the side of caution and aim towards the top end of the range?
2. Would we need to have different 'expected BG lowering values', for different times of day? Or for different levels of high BG? For me I find I can expect my BG to go down by 2 for each unit if. Or receive insulin, but as with everything diabetes related, everybody is different.

Thanks in advance for your help!

Apr 30, 2012

Simon 382 posts

Topic: DAFNE Online Mobile / Problems uploading

Hi Sarah,

Try re-saving the other entries with the Diary Upload function turned on; the app uploads to the site when en entry is saved.

Thanks,

Simon

Apr 25, 2012

Simon 382 posts

Topic: DAFNE Online Mobile / Mobile Feature Requests

Hi Neil, which device are you using? This kind of data is available on both the iOS and android apps for DAFNE online.

Apr 24, 2012

Simon 382 posts

Topic: DAFNE Online Mobile / BG Average Algorithm

Hi both,

This is fine in this forum Smile

I thought the algorithms were the same but will check it out and let you know. Thanks for calling it out.

Cheers

Apr 24, 2012

Simon 382 posts

Topic: Site Development / pdf diary downloads

Hi Andy,

If there are over 10 entries in a day contained in the diary being generated the PDF will default to landscape orientation to fit them in horizontally. Below 10 it defaults to portrait which will give around 5 days per page. Unfortunately there is a tradeoff here between more days per page whilst keeping the text size readable.

I can't guarantee I can get more per page but will certainly try!

Simon

Apr 24, 2012

Simon 382 posts

Topic: DAFNE Online Mobile / upload error 503

Hi Stew,

You won't have to delete them, you might have to go into one of the entries and save it again that will trigger the upload again.

Simon

Apr 23, 2012

Simon 382 posts

Topic: DAFNE Online Mobile / upload error 503

Ah, so you'll understand what I mean when I say we updated our DNS records and it takes up to 48 hours to propagate Very Happy

Apr 23, 2012

Simon 382 posts

Topic: DAFNE Online Mobile / upload error 503

Hi Phil/All,

We moved our servers yesterday - this requires us to 'tell the Internet' where dafneonline.co.uk is and this can take up to 48 hours to propagate across the whole of the Web. Keep on trying - if this persists for another 24 hours then let us know.

Simon

Apr 23, 2012

Simon 382 posts

Topic: Site Development / pdf diary downloads

Hi Andrew,

We've fixed the problem with both the PDF and CSV generation - can you try them out now?

Thanks,

Simon

Apr 23, 2012

Simon 382 posts

Topic: DAFNE Online Mobile / upload error 503

Hi Andrew,

Could you let us know when you tried to upload your results, and which phone you are using to do it?

Over the past 24 hours we have been moving our servers so there may be a few hiccups - also feel free to try the upload again.

Thanks,

Simon

Apr 23, 2012

Simon 382 posts

Topic: Site Development / pdf diary downloads

Hi Andrew,

Looking at our error logs the issue is that the diary you are trying to print it too big horizontally, could you let me know the maximum number of diary entries you have in any day in the date range you're trying to print?

This will help us greatly to fix the problem.

Thanks,

Simon

Apr 5, 2012

Simon 382 posts

Topic: Site Development / DAFNE Online iPhone application - help with content/design needed

Hi Julie,

It's good to know the app works for our blind users as well so thanks for letting us know.
Have you enabled the Diary Upload function on the settings page? If so then a popup window should come up with any problem information for the uploads and downloads; does the iPhone read this out to you?

Simon

Apr 1, 2012

Simon 382 posts

Topic: General Discussion / uploading results from iphone to PC?

Hi there,

If you turn 'Diary Upload' on in the settings page, and then save a diary entry that entry should be uploaded to the site - is this not the case?

Thanks,

Simon

Mar 24, 2012

Simon 382 posts

Topic: Site Development / Slow site response....

You're all right, the site has been down a couple of times over the past week. We're looking at options to improve the performance as we speak.

Apologies for the inconvenience!

Mar 23, 2012

Simon 382 posts

Topic: Site Development / Slow site response....

Hi novorapidboi,

The site has been down a few times recently, that may be a contributor to your experiencing the slowness - is it happening all the time?

We're looking into it anyway Very Happy

Thanks

Mar 16, 2012

Simon 382 posts

Topic: DAFNE Online Mobile / Download entries from site?

Hi,

I'm hoping the latest update (1.5.2) will fix your download issues; it's on the app store now so let me know if it works for you.

Simon

Mar 13, 2012

Simon 382 posts

Topic: Site Development / Show diary entries between query

Hi Nicky,

I'll take a look at this for you and see if we can fix it.

Simon

Mar 10, 2012

Simon 382 posts

Topic: DAFNE Online Mobile / Download entries from site?

Hi Everyone,

Could you take a look at the set of entries you are trying to download on the site and let me know (on the forums) if you have any entries which are the following type:

After Breakfast
After Dinner
After Lunch
Before Supper
After Supper
Illness
Fasting

I think the issue may be how the app deals with entry types which haven't been added to it's database yet. Please also let me know if the entries you are trying to download don't have the type set to any of the above - as this means that isn't the issue.

Thanks!

Mar 8, 2012

Simon 382 posts

Topic: DAFNE Online Mobile / Carb counting aps for iphone 3gs?

Hi there,

The DAFNE Online iPhone app should work on 3GS, however currently there's no support in it for blind users - if you let us know what you need in the app to make it work for you we can get going on it.

Thanks,

Simon

May 11, 2012 Simon 382 posts	Topic: Site Development / Auto calculate QA from BG - let's get it right I've started work on this and have come across another question: if for example my before bed target was 6.5-8 mmol/l, and I was aiming for 50% of the range between them (7.25 mmol/l) and I'd input a qa:BG lowering ratio of 2.5, there is an opportunity for the calculation to aim for below the minimum target, as follows: If my BG here was 8.5, the calculation would be (8.5-7.25) / 2.5 = 0.5 which would be rounded up to a correction dose of 1, which if taken should bring the BG down to 6 which is below the minimum target range. At the moment in these circumstances ive got it taking 1 from the correction dose, but think it may be better to always round down the correction for safety reasons. What do people think (if you managed to follow my calculations!)?

May 10, 2012 Simon 382 posts	Topic: Site Development / Auto calculate QA from BG - let's get it right Thanks for your responses so far.. Stew - yes it will be defaulted to off, and people will also need to agree to a disclaimer before turning it on. It seems there is a need for a few variables: 1. First of all, the point in your target range the app aims for, so this could be changed using a slider to favour the top or bottom of the range. 2. Secondly, different correction factors for different times of day and/or different BG levels. With this I propose setting a general 'expected correction' setting which would be used unless users put in specific overrides e.g. for BG above 13mmol/l or for specific times of day. One question here is should it be done on entry type (Breakfast, Lunch, Dinner) or a specific time range? Are there any thoughts on the above?

May 10, 2012 Simon 382 posts	Topic: Site Development / Standard Deviation.. Sounds good, will put it on the to do list

May 5, 2012 Simon 382 posts	Topic: Site Development / Slow site response.... I doubt that your work will let you circumvent the proxy, they are put there for security reasons... Have you tried in a different web browser?

May 5, 2012 Simon 382 posts	Topic: Site Development / Setting my time zone for Blood Glucose Diary entries Hi Warwick, Ill take a look at getting the right time displayed for you and the rest of our Australia and New Zealand members. On the search question, you should see a link to search the forums just under the topic heading and at the top of most forum pages. Simon

May 4, 2012 Simon 382 posts	Topic: Site Development / Slow site response.... Hi Novorapidboi, There shouldn't be any issues at the moment, the site move is now complete. One way to see if there is a difference between your home and work connection is to ping the site. If you are on windows, you can open up the start menu, click run and then type CMD into the box. Once the black window with white text pops up type ping www.dafneonline.co.uk There will be 4 lines saying Reply from xyz, notice the time=XXms entries, and let us know if there is any significant difference between home and work. Cheers

May 1, 2012 Simon 382 posts	Topic: Site Development / Auto calculate QA from BG - let's get it right Theres been discussion and requests for an improved auto calculation of QA in the site and mbi,e apps, which take into account corrective dosages as well, and I'd like to get a consensus on how we should do it. The first thing I should say is that we don't have the ability to deal with any lawsuits, as we aren't part of the DAFNE program and are a group of graduates just like you who do this in our spare time; so my first diorite is ensuring we dont get sued for providing inaccurate medical advice or similar. That said , we also want to help graduates in any way possible, so I'd like to go ahead with this function and have created this forum post to ensure we get it right. So, the auto calculation of insulin dosage matched to CPs is simple - its just take the CP input and multiply by the ratio for that entry type. The tricky bit is how to calculate the corrective dosage. An initial first pass at this would require users to enter how much they expect their BG to lower after injecting 1 unit of insulin. The app could then calculate the difference between input BG and target BG, and use this to calculate the number of corrective units needed. That way it isn't giving medical advice, just crunching some numbers. However there are a couple of questions in my mind: 1. What would we aim for with the correction? Each entry type has a target range of mmol/l readings, would we aim for the middle of this, or err on the side of caution and aim towards the top end of the range? 2. Would we need to have different 'expected BG lowering values', for different times of day? Or for different levels of high BG? For me I find I can expect my BG to go down by 2 for each unit if. Or receive insulin, but as with everything diabetes related, everybody is different. Thanks in advance for your help!

Apr 30, 2012 Simon 382 posts	Topic: DAFNE Online Mobile / Problems uploading Hi Sarah, Try re-saving the other entries with the Diary Upload function turned on; the app uploads to the site when en entry is saved. Thanks, Simon

Apr 25, 2012 Simon 382 posts	Topic: DAFNE Online Mobile / Mobile Feature Requests Hi Neil, which device are you using? This kind of data is available on both the iOS and android apps for DAFNE online.

Apr 24, 2012 Simon 382 posts	Topic: DAFNE Online Mobile / BG Average Algorithm Hi both, This is fine in this forum I thought the algorithms were the same but will check it out and let you know. Thanks for calling it out. Cheers

Apr 24, 2012 Simon 382 posts	Topic: Site Development / pdf diary downloads Hi Andy, If there are over 10 entries in a day contained in the diary being generated the PDF will default to landscape orientation to fit them in horizontally. Below 10 it defaults to portrait which will give around 5 days per page. Unfortunately there is a tradeoff here between more days per page whilst keeping the text size readable. I can't guarantee I can get more per page but will certainly try! Simon

Apr 24, 2012 Simon 382 posts	Topic: DAFNE Online Mobile / upload error 503 Hi Stew, You won't have to delete them, you might have to go into one of the entries and save it again that will trigger the upload again. Simon

Apr 23, 2012 Simon 382 posts	Topic: DAFNE Online Mobile / upload error 503 Ah, so you'll understand what I mean when I say we updated our DNS records and it takes up to 48 hours to propagate

Apr 23, 2012 Simon 382 posts	Topic: DAFNE Online Mobile / upload error 503 Hi Phil/All, We moved our servers yesterday - this requires us to 'tell the Internet' where dafneonline.co.uk is and this can take up to 48 hours to propagate across the whole of the Web. Keep on trying - if this persists for another 24 hours then let us know. Simon

Apr 23, 2012 Simon 382 posts	Topic: Site Development / pdf diary downloads Hi Andrew, We've fixed the problem with both the PDF and CSV generation - can you try them out now? Thanks, Simon

Apr 23, 2012 Simon 382 posts	Topic: DAFNE Online Mobile / upload error 503 Hi Andrew, Could you let us know when you tried to upload your results, and which phone you are using to do it? Over the past 24 hours we have been moving our servers so there may be a few hiccups - also feel free to try the upload again. Thanks, Simon

Apr 23, 2012 Simon 382 posts	Topic: Site Development / pdf diary downloads Hi Andrew, Looking at our error logs the issue is that the diary you are trying to print it too big horizontally, could you let me know the maximum number of diary entries you have in any day in the date range you're trying to print? This will help us greatly to fix the problem. Thanks, Simon

Apr 5, 2012 Simon 382 posts	Topic: Site Development / DAFNE Online iPhone application - help with content/design needed Hi Julie, It's good to know the app works for our blind users as well so thanks for letting us know. Have you enabled the Diary Upload function on the settings page? If so then a popup window should come up with any problem information for the uploads and downloads; does the iPhone read this out to you? Simon

Apr 1, 2012 Simon 382 posts	Topic: General Discussion / uploading results from iphone to PC? Hi there, If you turn 'Diary Upload' on in the settings page, and then save a diary entry that entry should be uploaded to the site - is this not the case? Thanks, Simon

Mar 24, 2012 Simon 382 posts	Topic: Site Development / Slow site response.... You're all right, the site has been down a couple of times over the past week. We're looking at options to improve the performance as we speak. Apologies for the inconvenience!

Mar 23, 2012 Simon 382 posts	Topic: Site Development / Slow site response.... Hi novorapidboi, The site has been down a few times recently, that may be a contributor to your experiencing the slowness - is it happening all the time? We're looking into it anyway Thanks

Mar 16, 2012 Simon 382 posts	Topic: DAFNE Online Mobile / Download entries from site? Hi, I'm hoping the latest update (1.5.2) will fix your download issues; it's on the app store now so let me know if it works for you. Simon

Mar 13, 2012 Simon 382 posts	Topic: Site Development / Show diary entries between query Hi Nicky, I'll take a look at this for you and see if we can fix it. Simon

Mar 10, 2012 Simon 382 posts	Topic: DAFNE Online Mobile / Download entries from site? Hi Everyone, Could you take a look at the set of entries you are trying to download on the site and let me know (on the forums) if you have any entries which are the following type: After Breakfast After Dinner After Lunch Before Supper After Supper Illness Fasting I think the issue may be how the app deals with entry types which haven't been added to it's database yet. Please also let me know if the entries you are trying to download don't have the type set to any of the above - as this means that isn't the issue. Thanks!

Mar 8, 2012 Simon 382 posts	Topic: DAFNE Online Mobile / Carb counting aps for iphone 3gs? Hi there, The DAFNE Online iPhone app should work on 3GS, however currently there's no support in it for blind users - if you let us know what you need in the app to make it work for you we can get going on it. Thanks, Simon

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